DODGY DEALER. BEWARE
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zimmermatt
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Hi guys unfortunately I only Joined this site after I bought what I thought to be a solid 2.5 sport.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6278/dcp55277gi.jpg
It used to belong to doughboy and was for sale in nov by him for £1250. Then after the arches had been fillered and painted was on pistonheads in dec for £2895. I didnt pay this but not far off as I couldn't get under car. Since then I have had it on a ramp and found the sills to be knackered and a fairly big hole in the inner arch. Now I accept I bought the car sold as seen but they are not a private seller and obviously tart vehicles up regularly. here is a link to their latest sale. Please be very cautious if you are thinking of looking at this car. I reckon from the pics that it has had a front end smash. The colour from front body kit to panels does not look right and there is only one side of lamps with wash wipers.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/888515.htm
I now have a sport that is worth easily a grand less than i paid for it and although I have to accept this, bite the bullet and do the work, cos I aint going to stitch somebody else up with it, at least I can warn you guys so that hopefully no body else ends up wasting money. Also if the cars dont speak for them selves perhaps the fact that he was called Karl Andrew when he sold me mine and is now Alan Smith will convince you. I was told the car was being sold due to changing circumstances so stupidly took this as the reason for the logbook not being changed into his name. Surprise surprise the latest reason for sale is changing circumstances. I aint phoned him up but my money says his name is not not on this latest log book either.
http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/6278/dcp55277gi.jpg
It used to belong to doughboy and was for sale in nov by him for £1250. Then after the arches had been fillered and painted was on pistonheads in dec for £2895. I didnt pay this but not far off as I couldn't get under car. Since then I have had it on a ramp and found the sills to be knackered and a fairly big hole in the inner arch. Now I accept I bought the car sold as seen but they are not a private seller and obviously tart vehicles up regularly. here is a link to their latest sale. Please be very cautious if you are thinking of looking at this car. I reckon from the pics that it has had a front end smash. The colour from front body kit to panels does not look right and there is only one side of lamps with wash wipers.
http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/888515.htm
I now have a sport that is worth easily a grand less than i paid for it and although I have to accept this, bite the bullet and do the work, cos I aint going to stitch somebody else up with it, at least I can warn you guys so that hopefully no body else ends up wasting money. Also if the cars dont speak for them selves perhaps the fact that he was called Karl Andrew when he sold me mine and is now Alan Smith will convince you. I was told the car was being sold due to changing circumstances so stupidly took this as the reason for the logbook not being changed into his name. Surprise surprise the latest reason for sale is changing circumstances. I aint phoned him up but my money says his name is not not on this latest log book either.
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e30bmlover
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shit mate... i feel for you! he sounds like a right shady bastard!
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zimmermatt
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cheers mate. was hopin I wont get a rinsing. just wish I'd known but any way. I'll just have to consider me my cars saviour. just a shame I aint got the spare cash I should o had left over to sought it out. sure will figure it out. too many of these cars end up in parts for sale.
- richard-the-nutter
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fair shout if you bought it and it had rust problems i say.
i have been known to do a couple of cars up in the past to sell on but i always do it properly and its only ever mechanical problems, which are easily fixed and obvious to check
i have been known to do a couple of cars up in the past to sell on but i always do it properly and its only ever mechanical problems, which are easily fixed and obvious to check
Looking for an e30 in the north east!
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zimmermatt
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yeah there was a thread of warning about it with everyone gettin it confused with another car. Pretty horrifying to buy a car then find it in a warning discussion on a forum youve just joined. doh! 
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scottidog
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Never mind mate, we have all bought a sh1tter from time to time, the good news is if you can look on the bright side theres lots of info and friendly people on this site willing to help a fellow E30 owner. Looks a tidy car from the top so it must have potential.
Chin up fella.
Scottidog.
Chin up fella.
Scottidog.
He has posted that red 325 up on www.e30owners.com (Irish e30 site). I put a link to this to warn people about him...
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B7
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That red sport doesn't even sit right. The engine bay looks full of overspray dust. The bonnet shut lines are all over the shop. The exhaust is wrong for the car. It would have originally had a tan interior and the existing passenger seat is missing it's trim!!
You can just smell it's a Wrong'un straight away!!!
You can just smell it's a Wrong'un straight away!!!
B7's Motto. "If it's French, BURN IT!!!!!!"
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SPADGE
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Is the seller really Alan Smith or is he a foreign looking chap?
Did you get it from Wycombe/Chesham/Amersham area??
Some dodgy feckers in those areas that regulaly post nonsense on here
Did you get it from Wycombe/Chesham/Amersham area??
Some dodgy feckers in those areas that regulaly post nonsense on here
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The tyres look red to me also!B7 wrote:That red sport doesn't even sit right. The engine bay looks full of overspray dust. The bonnet shut lines are all over the shop. The exhaust is wrong for the car. It would have originally had a tan interior and the existing passenger seat is missing it's trim!!![]()
You can just smell it's a Wrong'un straight away!!!
Deffo something fishy going on with that red one - brand new front number plate and i'm not even convinced the front bumper is genuine tech-II...
Sorry to hear about your experience zimmermatt - look on the bright side, there are plenty of people on here happy to help or point you in the right direction at least to get yours up to standard
Sorry to hear about your experience zimmermatt - look on the bright side, there are plenty of people on here happy to help or point you in the right direction at least to get yours up to standard
sorry you've been caught, and the seller looks more dodgy than most going by the red one, but...
show me a used car 'dealer' that hasnt tarted up a shed to get rid of it for considerably more than they paid for it. they probably had pound signs flashing infront of their eyes as soon as they saw the cheap sport pop up for sale.
show me a used car 'dealer' that hasnt tarted up a shed to get rid of it for considerably more than they paid for it. they probably had pound signs flashing infront of their eyes as soon as they saw the cheap sport pop up for sale.
cheers,
harry
harry
- murran
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is it my imagination or is that a 320i engine in it? inlet manifold/throttle body looks small to me.csl wrote:The tyres look red to me also!B7 wrote:That red sport doesn't even sit right. The engine bay looks full of overspray dust. The bonnet shut lines are all over the shop. The exhaust is wrong for the car. It would have originally had a tan interior and the existing passenger seat is missing it's trim!!![]()
You can just smell it's a Wrong'un straight away!!!
boot lid is up at one side and down at the other too.
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B7
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No, that is a 2.5 inlet manifold. The 320's were a lot more angular.murran wrote:is it my imagination or is that a 320i engine in it? inlet manifold/throttle body looks small to me.csl wrote:The tyres look red to me also!B7 wrote:That red sport doesn't even sit right. The engine bay looks full of overspray dust. The bonnet shut lines are all over the shop. The exhaust is wrong for the car. It would have originally had a tan interior and the existing passenger seat is missing it's trim!!![]()
You can just smell it's a Wrong'un straight away!!!
boot lid is up at one side and down at the other too.
B7's Motto. "If it's French, BURN IT!!!!!!"
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madaboutthe30
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Unlucky mate, as everyone has said theres a limitless fountain of knowledge to help you put things right.
Restoring your car will help you love it more in the long run, knowing that you built it to what it is today as oppose to buying it ready.
Restoring your car will help you love it more in the long run, knowing that you built it to what it is today as oppose to buying it ready.
Dreaming of the day I purchase an E30 M3
--- e30 motorsport cab-- in the process of becoming a trailer queen
--- Z4M Coupe - daily driver
--- e30 motorsport cab-- in the process of becoming a trailer queen
--- Z4M Coupe - daily driver
doughboy came to my old workplace (renault bodyshop, had done Simon13's alpina c2 body resto and my sports repaint) for a quote. It needed a pair of rear quarters, o/s/r inner arches, suttle, sills, rear panel. Basicly a full resto. I think he decided it was to much for him hence the sale on here.
Alot of people jumped on the sale of the car as it looked good in the pics and it was cheap.
Obviously someone was out to make a quick buck.
Sorry to hear about this.
Alot of people jumped on the sale of the car as it looked good in the pics and it was cheap.
Obviously someone was out to make a quick buck.
Sorry to hear about this.
- murran
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my imagination then! lol.
e21 killing tyres with e30 325 powerzzz
drifting on the cheap......... www.trampdrift.com
e21zone........ www.bmwe21.net
The way i see it...it was your fault for not joining the zone before hand so you can get some info on the car.....also if your going to buy a sport they are known for rust issues........even if you coulndnt get under it could of popped back so if you decided to take the RISK you cant blame someone else for your own actions........even if the seller is saying its rustfree under....im sure you would like to check and not take his word for it...so it was all down to you pal.....
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SPADGE wrote:Is the seller really Alan Smith or is he a foreign looking chap?
Did you get it from Wycombe/Chesham/Amersham area??
Some dodgy feckers in those areas that regulaly post nonsense on here
spadge you hinting at me just because your last assumptions were wrong....never mind.......you also mentioned wycum...chesham...amersham as dodgy feckers....i was confused as you are in milton keynes so you must of forgot to mention your place......never mind
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Anyone else feel a popcorn moment coming on ?.
kami325isport, you and Spadge may well have your differences, but over 20 pages of feedback would seem to suggest he is far from a dodgy fecker.
kami325isport, you and Spadge may well have your differences, but over 20 pages of feedback would seem to suggest he is far from a dodgy fecker.

- gooner1
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One lump, or two mate?fuzzy wrote:ive never seen a single dodgy comment regarding spadges dealings yet...
.got any chocolate hobnobs and a cup of tea?Anyone else feel a popcorn moment coming on ?.

a bit out of order.. not every one will think about joining a forum before buying a car... hes probarly only came across the zone after searching the net after having problems.. that how most ppl find itkami325isport wrote:The way i see it...it was your fault for not joining the zone before hand so you can get some info on the car.....also if your going to buy a sport they are known for rust issues........even if you coulndnt get under it could of popped back so if you decided to take the RISK you cant blame someone else for your own actions........even if the seller is saying its rustfree under....im sure you would like to check and not take his word for it...so it was all down to you pal.....
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ImysE30
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That's how I found it, never knew such a site existedhes probarly only came across the zone after searching the net after having problems.. that how most ppl find it
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E30 335i Turbo M3 Convertible Replica
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Simon13
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Do you so happen to have a silver tech 1 sport alpina stuck in your arse by chance bert?kami325isport wrote:whenever he comments he always gives negative feedback and hints at me........i have never bought or sold him anything dont no what hes got stuck up his arse........



