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I want to replace all the bushes in my suspension... everything.

Now i'm wondering if anyone will help me out as i'd like to have a list of every bush (most will be in pairs yes?) for the suspension so i dont miss one out when going for a quote from the genuine parts depot.

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Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:27 pm

powerflex do the complete kit everything you need
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Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:28 pm

Front lower arm (in the 'lollypop') - M3 ones are a nice little upgrade!

Front anti roll bar

Rear anti roll bar

Rear trailing arm (2 pairs required)

Rear beam, if you fancy doing a really nasty job that is!

That's it for the bushes, I would do the front and rear anti roll bar drop links whilst at it too, not dear and easy to do, again pairs front and rear.

Check ball joints for wear as well, could be worth doing whilst it's apart.
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Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:20 pm

Also check your top mounts for any play, it would be a good time to fit the E46 cab rear mounts, stronger than the E30.

If you don't use Powerflex and go with standard rubber only use OEM from BMW.

All the rubber bushes from GSF & ECP are crap quality.
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Basically, i'm revamping the suspension, so want to do everything whilst i'm there. So the harder jobs should be made easier as the whole suspension is coming off. I plan to use BMW parts all the way (well, for bushes and so forth)

Front lower arm (in the 'lollypop')
Front anti roll bar
Rear anti roll bar
Rear trailing arm (2 pairs required)
Rear beam
front and rear anti roll bar drop links whilst at it too
ball joints
Top Mounts?? Is this for the front and back?

Also, i'm planning to get new Bilstein shocks, tie rods, bearings, brake disks, pads, braided brake lines.

Anything else whilst i'm making the list?
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 9:35 am

Cheers Chris. Expensive list...

Are the M3 Eccentric top mounts worth it? are they much more expensive than the normal top mounts (front?). At £95 each its quite a price to pay... (i assume you need 2.)
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Thu Feb 05, 2009 2:44 pm

So,

FRONT

Pair of E30 M3 eccentric top strut mounts (31331139484) - 94.41 each (do i need 2 of these or is the price actually for both???) with 6x studs and nuts...

Pair of E30 M3 eccentric lollypop bushes (31129061222) - £85 pair

Drop Links (31351091764) - £54.03 pair

Pair of front ARB bushes - £18.55 pair

ARB & Drop Link fasteners £5 extra per link (how many?????)

N/S Track control arm (31121127725) - £92.81
O/S Track control arm (31121127726) - £92.81
(Are these things that only really need replacing when broken?? as 200 nearly for control arms... should i really get these?)

REAR

Pair of E46 M3 Cab top shock mounts (33526754096) - £33.30 pair

Pair of E30 rear beam bushes (33311129144) - £52.39 pair

Eccentric Trailing arm bushes (33329058822) - £16.12 per side

Pair of ARB bushes £5.68 pair

Pair of ARB drop links (33551126932) - £23.50 pair

ARB & Drop Link Fasteners Extra £8 per side (x2???)

3.0 / ZM3 Differential mounting bush (33172228425) - £21.34





This is quite a list. Which i'm prepared for, but the M3 Eccentric top mounts for the front are quite steep. Are they much more expensive than the normal E30 ones or do they make that much of a difference??
Also, the N/S and O/S Track control arm? What is that? Is it quite doubtfull i'll need one unless its actually totaled on my car?

If i dont need those control arms that saves nearly 200 off the list, and if the M3 top mounts are £94.41 a pair that will be fine, but for each one??? hmmm.

I want the suspension to be re-done but those extra prices involved there is the cost of all new suspension or 4 new brake disks etc.

I'm trying to make a 100% definitive list so i dont have to keep ordering bits from the UK as to claim back the VAT from the customs is a mission and would mean i'd have to do it more than once... ohh, does anyone know if the prices listed above include VAT?? because if they dont that'll be more on top and takes a few weeks to claim back!!

Any more help is appreciated lads!
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Pair of E30 M3 eccentric lollypop bushes (31129061222) - £85 pair
Where did you get that price??? I paid about £25 for the pair from our very own genuine parts supplier.
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From the wikki that Chris-W sent me! I assume some prices may change or be different. But nice to know as thats a possible 60 shaved off already!

I just want to make sure i have a good list of part... prices come later
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Pair of E30 M3 eccentric lollypop bushes (31129061222) - £85 pair


Where did you get that price??? I paid about £25 for the pair from our very own genuine parts supplier.
The E36 ones are the same. the £85 ones are the e30 ones and the £25 ones are the E36 ones. Get the E36 ones and save £60
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M3 top mounts give you more camber as they're offset. Ive got them on mine and i think it was about 1 3/4' negative camber last time i checked. It's lowered as well though. If you're serious about revamping the suspension then as the first reply says I'd look at the powerflex kit.
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wrcarter wrote:
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Pair of E30 M3 eccentric lollypop bushes (31129061222) - £85 pair


Where did you get that price??? I paid about £25 for the pair from our very own genuine parts supplier.
The E36 ones are the same. the £85 ones are the e30 ones and the £25 ones are the E36 ones. Get the E36 ones and save £60
you have got that wrong the e30 ones are only £25 a pair when i bought mine from my local dealer
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BMW cut the price of the E30M3 bushes a year or so ago (or quite possibly relabeled E36M3 ones!)
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geoffrey wrote:M3 top mounts give you more camber as they're offset. Ive got them on mine and i think it was about 1 3/4' negative camber last time i checked. It's lowered as well though. If you're serious about revamping the suspension then as the first reply says I'd look at the powerflex kit.
I'm trying to avoid powerflex mate. I'm trying to make a car that will last. I've heard bad things about powerflex bushes for average road use.
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