advice,rear flip out

Post Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:35 pm

hi guys,got my 325 auto last nite,f reg,and was on m/way 2nite and decided to floor it,cant remember if i was in sport mode or not,but the rear end flipped from side to side!!mustve gone down to 2nd gear??anyway,do u think its the rear tyres(g/year)but worn slightly on inside,or the fact it was raining slightly(shower)?scared to floor it now!!cheers

Post Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:41 pm

welcome to rwd mate

Post Tue Jul 19, 2005 9:45 pm

:yeahthat:

RWD rocks.

Post Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:12 pm

That's one of the reasons you buy a BMW! You've got a steering wheel in your hands - keep the boot in and correct it.
Whatever you do, don't lift of, unless you want to learn a quick substitute for a three point turn.
"Ultimate driving machine" isn't just a sales slogan, but it does require a "driver".

Post Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:26 pm

cheers guys,maybe i wont replace the back tyres just now then!btw i am a driver,a bus driver,lol

Post Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:53 pm

delboy!!!

keep ure foot in!!!!

Post Wed Jul 20, 2005 8:04 am

When you say keep your foot in, shouldn't there be some degree of modulation i.e. if it's going too far, lift a little to bring it back a bit

Post Wed Jul 20, 2005 10:33 am

Turbo-Brown wrote:When you say keep your foot in, shouldn't there be some degree of modulation i.e. if it's going too far, lift a little to bring it back a bit

modulation is for wimps, spinning out is for HEROs :lol:

delboy, just watch yourself with it in the wet

best idea is to get an nice empty car park and try to figure out when the car 'breaks' so you can get a feel for how close to the limit you are.

take care and have fun with it mate

Post Wed Jul 20, 2005 1:51 pm

Turbo-Brown wrote:When you say keep your foot in, shouldn't there be some degree of modulation i.e. if it's going too far, lift a little to bring it back a bit

I was thinking the same thing

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I might not be a HERO but at least I'll be alive

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I think the point is that you definately shouldn't lift off the accelerator sharply. Also you probably shouldn't lift all the way off unless you've really gone too far and then it's probably best to stand on the brake pedal and get the wheels to lock, that way you will at least travel in a straight line (the way your momentum was heading) until you stop, unless that is towards something solid of course.

Aston

Post Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:00 pm

Think probably the best advice up there is to practice where you can't hit anything.

Also, start small when you do transfer it onto the open road.

It's pretty easy around tight radius corners as you don't need much speed to look heroic, big open sweepers need more speed and as such you need more skill to mitigate against the risk

EDIT> just a thought, is it possible to tell the 'box to stay in one gear? Can't imagine a mid-drift shift would do much for your control over the car :lol:

Post Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:11 pm

Turbo-Brown wrote:Think probably the best advice up there is to practice where you can't hit anything.

Also, start small when you do transfer it onto the open road.

It's pretty easy around tight radius corners as you don't need much speed to look heroic, big open sweepers need more speed and as such you need more skill to mitigate against the risk

EDIT> just a thought, is it possible to tell the 'box to stay in one gear? Can't imagine a mid-drift shift would do much for your control over the car

most auto's have like P R N D 3 2 1 selections

if you select eithe r 3, 2, or 1 then it holds it in that gear rather than changing up

so he probably can keep the box in one gear

Post Wed Jul 20, 2005 2:18 pm

astondg wrote:I think the point is that you definately shouldn't lift off the accelerator sharply.

I agree.
A mate of mine bought a mint 325ise when we were at college. I never got the chance to go in it, cause his first trip in the wet resulted in him fish tailing out of a junction and then lifting off the accel pedal sharpish. The tyres gripped when he was broadside across the road and he nose-dived into a deep ditch. It was no longer mint

Post Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:47 am

thanks guys,what freaked me out was that i was going in a straight line on the m/way!maybe i had turned the steering slightlty,not sure,anyway,2nite i got overtaken by a e30 325,tyres screeching,other side of road etc,heading towards oncoming traffic!i was driving the bus at the time tho! :

Post Thu Jul 21, 2005 12:58 pm

delboy8000 wrote:what freaked me out was that i was going in a straight line on the m/way!maybe i had turned the steering slightlty

Camber (if thats the right word??) on the road will kick the rear out if you floor it and its a bit wet.

Ive had it in mine when pulling away from a set of lights (read racing an Astra GTE to the next roundabout). The road is totally straight and as I changed into second, accelerated hard the rear broke away to the left, towards the kerb. I still beat the GTE but it would of been more convincing if I had traction

Most/all roads have a slight camber (lean) to them to help water run to the edge of the road so it doesnt just sit in the middle. I guess motorways are the same in that respect.

As said, go and practice where you cant (or shouldnt

) hit anything and then you will get to learn the limits of your car.

Post Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:04 pm

mine when i had an open diff in it temporarily was shocking.... it would spin up til 4th gear in the wet

once when changine into 4th at 80ish,..... the back just swung out on coutry lane

much better with lsd now and so controllable

Post Thu Jul 21, 2005 1:14 pm

Karan wrote:mine when i had an open diff in it temporarily was shocking.... it would spin up til 4th gear in the wet

once when changine into 4th at 80ish,..... the back just swung out on coutry lane

much better with lsd now and so controllable

I can agree, about that, cause I've got an open diff

... u know that slip diffs in SA r like chickens teeth