guys does anyone know how to remove rear subframe bushes on e30s ??
thanks.
Remove rear subframe bushes ????
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murran
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yes, we click on the search function on this forum and magically they just fall out of your car.
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murran wrote:yes, we click on the search function on this forum and magically they just fall out of your car.
shut up u knob , if u gna reply with dumb answers like that i suggest u go hate on someone else u muppet.
used the searched feature not found nothing yet hence why ive posted this thread up.
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There are loads of subjects on this, its a pig of a job, cliffys way is with the proper tools and the safest way to do it with the beam attached to the car. With the beam removed from the car it is easy to burn the bushes out and press the new ones in. There is no easy or quick way, that I've found or am willing to recommend to others, to change them still fitted to the car without the proper tools.
There are loads of subjects on this, its a pig of a job, cliffys way is with the proper tools and the safest way to do it with the beam attached to the car. With the beam removed from the car it is easy to burn the bushes out and press the new ones in. There is no easy or quick way, that I've found or am willing to recommend to others, to change them still fitted to the car without the proper tools.
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If you are playing with your daily driver,pay a garage to do this for you.I paid Forrest Motors here in Lincoln £116 per car for my to dailies.On my project car I did them myself by removing the beam complete with diff and trailing arms.I burnt the bushes out,but still needed proffesianal help to press the new one's home.It took 5 tonnes of pressure to locate them.It also took all weekend just to remove,strip,paint and rebuild,then part of the next weekend to re-fit.
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Hi everyone, first time post and bit of a neewbie but just thought i would throw my two cents in .
I removed my subframe bushes yesterday after removing the beam,diff and arms as one which is suprisingly easy. I used a bearing/gear puller to push them through after heating them up slightly with a blow torch 5 minutes each side and same goes for the trailing arm bushes, they just slide out with no excessive force needed didnt take more than an hour to remove all 6. Just do it slowly and carefully and you should have no problems. I believe Liam Crilly who runs in the PBMWC has a write up on it(its in google somewhere). Good luck.
I removed my subframe bushes yesterday after removing the beam,diff and arms as one which is suprisingly easy. I used a bearing/gear puller to push them through after heating them up slightly with a blow torch 5 minutes each side and same goes for the trailing arm bushes, they just slide out with no excessive force needed didnt take more than an hour to remove all 6. Just do it slowly and carefully and you should have no problems. I believe Liam Crilly who runs in the PBMWC has a write up on it(its in google somewhere). Good luck.
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Im sure *Town325i* made his own tool using thread,washers etc..
search under his user name
search under his user name
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The problem with this job is getting the old bushes out; especially the alloy stub at the top which locates into the car body.
Sometimes they come out easily and in one piece, normally they come out with a bit of work and swearing, and occasionally they disintegrate, leaving part of the alloy inner tube firmly rooted in the bodyshell.
Unfortunately, you don't know which you are going to encounter, until it's too late to go back.
I've never had any trouble getting the new bushes into place, using threaded rod, nuts and an assortment of washers/pipe caps, etc.
Sometimes they come out easily and in one piece, normally they come out with a bit of work and swearing, and occasionally they disintegrate, leaving part of the alloy inner tube firmly rooted in the bodyshell.
Unfortunately, you don't know which you are going to encounter, until it's too late to go back.
I've never had any trouble getting the new bushes into place, using threaded rod, nuts and an assortment of washers/pipe caps, etc.
Not sure if this adds anything but removing them is not a problem for either the trailing arms or the beam.
You need powerful blowlamp and a large lump hammer.
Heat up the beam until the bush starts to burn and bubble at that point hit it hard with hammer, it flies out. To fit the new ones i have been using poly so i freeze the bush and heat up the beam and again with one short sharp wack the new bush flies in.
You need powerful blowlamp and a large lump hammer.
Heat up the beam until the bush starts to burn and bubble at that point hit it hard with hammer, it flies out. To fit the new ones i have been using poly so i freeze the bush and heat up the beam and again with one short sharp wack the new bush flies in.
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fair enough, there must be a thread a week posted up reguarding subframe bushes being an arse of a job.k13 wrote:murran wrote:yes, we click on the search function on this forum and magically they just fall out of your car.
shut up u knob , if u gna reply with dumb answers like that i suggest u go hate on someone else u muppet.
used the searched feature not found nothing yet hence why ive posted this thread up.
no need to get personal, just suggesting using the search button insted of people having to copy and paste their answers from last weeks subframe bush question!
ive done mine, one of the middles was seized on to the big stud.... wasnt comfortable using heat near the petrol tank.... so air chisel was employed!!
then fitted polybushes....... never need doing again!
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http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... highlight= try this therd there are plenty on here to i think there is something in the wiki to for it i think this question has been asked 15 times or more in the last 5 months
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How do you find the ride on poly rear beam bushes,please?murran wrote:
ive done mine, one of the middles was seized on to the big stud.... wasnt comfortable using heat near the petrol tank.... so air chisel was employed!!
then fitted polybushes....... never need doing again!
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I've done them on mine, but I wouldn't recommend if you are only using it on the road ! Mine is a weekend toy and trackcar, so I put up with it.daimlerman wrote:How do you find the ride on poly rear beam bushes,please?murran wrote:
ive done mine, one of the middles was seized on to the big stud.... wasnt comfortable using heat near the petrol tank.... so air chisel was employed!!
then fitted polybushes....... never need doing again!
You can try it on the roam and see
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feels fine to me. id recommend them on the road.... and i drive round sheffield roads, where already full of pot holes the council put speed bumps in too for good measure! 
im on standard springs with a coil cut out of the fronts, bilstein replacement shocks all round. and rose jointed front anti roll links.
just feels attached to the road to me! not harsh at all really.
ive not driven another e30 with good standard beam bushes, so nothing to compare the ride to!
im on standard springs with a coil cut out of the fronts, bilstein replacement shocks all round. and rose jointed front anti roll links.
just feels attached to the road to me! not harsh at all really.
ive not driven another e30 with good standard beam bushes, so nothing to compare the ride to!
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Hi
I can only say that with the right tools its a job that takes 1-1a hours. I bought a set of tools like the ones on the link below. I paid about. £100 for my tools but that also included a set of tools for e36 and e34. From a different ebay seller though. It's well worth the money when you think of how often these bushes need changing.
When the inner aluminum tube gets stuck on bolt it's a pain in the rear, but I think when fitting the new bushings some sort of corrosion prevention in the innertube would be good, the reason for the bushes to god bad in the first place is also corrosion as the inner tube corrodes the rubber lets go of the tube and then the car drops down onto the subframe = MOT failure, at least were I live. Otherwise powerflex bushings have stainless steel inner tube, so no corrosion problem.
Anyway to all you DIY E30 owners a set of tools like these in the link is highly recommended.
http://cgi.ebay.de/BMW-e30-e36-Tonnenla ... 240%3A1318
I can only say that with the right tools its a job that takes 1-1a hours. I bought a set of tools like the ones on the link below. I paid about. £100 for my tools but that also included a set of tools for e36 and e34. From a different ebay seller though. It's well worth the money when you think of how often these bushes need changing.
When the inner aluminum tube gets stuck on bolt it's a pain in the rear, but I think when fitting the new bushings some sort of corrosion prevention in the innertube would be good, the reason for the bushes to god bad in the first place is also corrosion as the inner tube corrodes the rubber lets go of the tube and then the car drops down onto the subframe = MOT failure, at least were I live. Otherwise powerflex bushings have stainless steel inner tube, so no corrosion problem.
Anyway to all you DIY E30 owners a set of tools like these in the link is highly recommended.
http://cgi.ebay.de/BMW-e30-e36-Tonnenla ... 240%3A1318
Why is there not enough time to do it right, but allways enough time to fix the errors - I borrowed that, just so reallistic in my line of work.
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That's a piece of threaded rod and a few washers, effectively the same as I use, but does nothing to help with the real problem, which is the alloy bush centre taking root in the bodyshell!
If genuine BMW bushes are used, they won't need replacing again anytime soon.
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That's a piece of threaded rod and a few washers, effectively the same as I use, but does nothing to help with the real problem, which is the alloy bush centre taking root in the bodyshell!
If genuine BMW bushes are used, they won't need replacing again anytime soon.