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Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:52 pm

adit wrote:yes and 20 spoke ones though! dirty robbing geordie! :chuckle: h.n.y. mike :)
Are there different reps with differeent amounts of spokes then ?????
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Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:32 pm

genuines have 20 spokes, copies normally have 19 spokes. 20 spoke reps are VERY rare!
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Fri Jan 02, 2009 10:09 pm

Anybody got a set of piccys of these type of Alpina's show the the amount of dish on the 8J and 7J, I'm seriously considering a set for the Sportster! :)
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JazzMan wrote:Anybody got a set of piccys of these type of Alpina's show the the amount of dish on the 8J and 7J, I'm seriously considering a set for the Sportster! :)
7's and 8's.

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Thank you very much looks :cool: :)
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adit wrote:genuines have 20 spokes, copies normally have 19 spokes. 20 spoke reps are VERY rare!
oh yes,,,, :wink:
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:11 pm

Hi, anyone got 8j originals all around? Any reason why you wouldn't get 8 all round? Thanks
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Does it increase tyre costs when the rear tyres are wider than the fronts?
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:36 pm

Rim width and tyre width are independent you can run the same size tyre all round if you have 7J or 8J. Or you can use larger rear tyres even if you've got the same rim width front and back.
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:40 pm

I haven't done it personaly but I think that Simon13 says that it the 8" ons are not suitable for the fronts as they are the wrong offset. I would have thought that they would promote bumpsteer as well.
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Our E46 has staggered wheels and yes it can be a pain if you can't swap front to rear. On the other hand, it allows you to run fat wheels for traction at the back with less tramlining from the front.
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 1:21 pm

Cheers for the replies.
I've been looking at all sorts of wheels and keep coming back to these...
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terryphelan wrote:Cheers for the replies.
I've been looking at all sorts of wheels and keep coming back to these...
an excellent choice! 8)
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 5:58 pm

skipunda wrote:...so what of the wheels by borbet then?

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so, what of my original post then? The company said to me these are real alpinas, no tricks/reps, no ronals but borbet alpinas. No one else makes em I was told..is that the concensus on here, fellas? :cool:
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maggspower wrote:I haven't done it personaly but I think that Simon13 says that it the 8" ons are not suitable for the fronts as they are the wrong offset. I would have thought that they would promote bumpsteer as well.
An 8J with a 225 tyre will foul the strut on the front.
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:12 pm

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skipunda wrote:...so what of the wheels by borbet then?

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so, what of my original post then? The company said to me these are real alpinas, no tricks/reps, no ronals but borbet alpinas. No one else makes em I was told..is that the concensus on here, fellas? :cool:
i've had around 30 of these wheels pass through my hands and the 10 i currently have all have ronal on them, so no i'm not convinced unless Ronal has gone bust or something and Borbet have picked up the contract
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Simon13 wrote:
skipunda wrote:
skipunda wrote:...so what of the wheels by borbet then?

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so, what of my original post then? The company said to me these are real alpinas, no tricks/reps, no ronals but borbet alpinas. No one else makes em I was told..is that the concensus on here, fellas? :cool:
i've had around 30 of these wheels pass through my hands and the 10 i currently have all have ronal on them, so no i'm not convinced unless Ronal has gone bust or something and Borbet have picked up the contract
Ideal, thanks Simon. I know you've said this before and wasn't expecting anything more...

Have written to Ronal..

Hi Ronal,

An online company, who I am considering buying from, have repeatably said they stock the sole producers of E30 Alpina 16" wheels, approved by BMW....Borbet

http://www.alloywheelsdirect.net/bmw_al ... l_wheel_85

Can you still buy Ronals?
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Simon13 wrote:i've had around 30 of these wheels pass through my hands and the 10 i currently have all have ronal on them, so no i'm not convinced unless Ronal has gone bust or something and Borbet have picked up the contract
The set I bought this week are stamped Ronal too.
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:45 pm

Barry bought 2 8j rims from the dealer about a year ago i'll bet you can guess the maker

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Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:04 pm

Well the Ronal website is still up and running, if that means anything.
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 7:28 pm

performancealloys.com also sell genuine Alpina's their price comes to around £1600 the classic 4 studs.
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magpie wrote:£175 got me these :D
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after a little effort :D
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a bit more effort will see all flat outside edges polished :wink:
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mine have 20 spokes and are made by R G ?
a very good copy,wonder if they ever had the contract :?
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:09 pm

magpie wrote:mine have 20 spokes and are made by R G ?
a very good copy,wonder if they ever had the contract :?
No, they never did. The reason they are very rare is because, if i remember correctly, alpina got pissed of that someone did a dam near copy of their wheel and most probably threatened leagl action so RG stopped making them sharpish!
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:14 pm

no, they haven't, all alpina wheels for the e30, to date, have been made by Ronal, a well known and respected wheel manufacturer.

some information suggests that they might now be made by borbet, who are also a well known and respected wheel manufacturer.

i have never heard of RG and they make a replica wheel. they might be reasonable looking replicas (i can't comment on their quality, weight or strength) but they are still replicas. you may well be happy with them, and as they have similar looks at a much reduced price compared to the real thing then fair enough, but let's be honest, the replicas are no more relevant to this thread than someone posting pics of their peugeot 406coupe based ferrari 360 replica on a ferrari 360 appreciation thread would be.

they might look similar, but for people interested in more than just the looks, who want the real deal then they're just not going to cut it.
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:17 pm

oh i see,so i have the best copy's made,no longer available 8)
so probs rarer than the real m'coy?not saying better .just hens teeth.
cheers bss,they are better than 17 bk's.so in all a good result.
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Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:23 pm

so you'll be taking your caps off then or turning them inside out so all can see
the alpina,ronal,borbet name on the spoke.lol.
i only bought some wheels v,cheap it turns out.
they are all straight and true.
i wanted to know the authenticity of them if thats ok. :?
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Thing is the RG alloys are really heavy, the centre cap is massive and the spokes are shorter. Also the lip has a softline edge compared to a sqare edge round the rim.

You can spot them a mile off mainly due to the Burger king style centre caps

I've got a picture genuine and real deal next to each other somewhere when i had both sets
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find it then bud.
£175 isn't a bad price imo :D
and better than bk's.
i nearly got bbs.still a good wheel but mine are better reps or not.
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Fri Jan 16, 2009 3:08 pm

16" too small got for 17 better look or maybe 18 if lucky
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bad_E30 wrote:16" too small got for 17 better look or maybe 18 if lucky
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Datourer, 18" will be fine on his bad_E30. 8O
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on dem 18's bro innit 8) :o:
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Simon13 wrote:Thing is the RG alloys are really heavy, the centre cap is massive and the spokes are shorter. Also the lip has a softline edge compared to a sqare edge round the rim.

You can spot them a mile off mainly due to the Burger king style centre caps

I've got a picture genuine and real deal next to each other somewhere when i had both sets
my genuine spokes measure 120mm and the centre cap diameter measures 138mm. looking at the rg pics, the lip, etc looks practically the same si. need to see side-by-side really :wink:
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my cap is 160mm,i'm getting the salt off it ready for the hill.
not done the spokes yet.
my spoke edges seem more flat?[face edge]
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magpie wrote:on dem 18's bro innit 8) :o:
nice big wheels makes the car look aggresive

its a personal opinon i like big wheels
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