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Turbo-Brown
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Yay! Videos and sound! 
got a vid no sound tho!
very eventful day people
test drive went ok
alltho i only went 1/4 mile up the road! but it made it!!
just waiting for a new cameraman to get in from work then i get another vid with sound!!
cheers alex
i didnt even think about hackin them .fig's!
So after a bit of the old cut'n'paste come up with some kind of hash up of the pinto &vr6 maps.
Dont you love open source!
the car pulled very strong to 4000rpm didnt want to take it any further just yet! still getting it running without the s/c! as i need some kind of bypass valve! as the pipe popped off the second the throttle was shut
it was the throttle switch (not the tps) not turning off!
will post when i get a vid
very eventful day people
test drive went ok
alltho i only went 1/4 mile up the road! but it made it!!
just waiting for a new cameraman to get in from work then i get another vid with sound!!
cheers alex
So after a bit of the old cut'n'paste come up with some kind of hash up of the pinto &vr6 maps.
Dont you love open source!
the car pulled very strong to 4000rpm didnt want to take it any further just yet! still getting it running without the s/c! as i need some kind of bypass valve! as the pipe popped off the second the throttle was shut
will post when i get a vid
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Ant
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Mark you got that cable sorted yet dude ?
I need you to test you MSnS box for comms for me M8 ASAP.
mobile is @ work and I'm off out but will check later on see whats what
I tested my conig files agaoin and all should work straight outa the box, there's the rub though, mine dont
Doh !
I need you to test you MSnS box for comms for me M8 ASAP.
mobile is @ work and I'm off out but will check later on see whats what
I tested my conig files agaoin and all should work straight outa the box, there's the rub though, mine dont
Doh !
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Heres the vid
sorry its a bit short i ran out of space on free hosting
but you get the idea!
sorry its a bit short i ran out of space on free hosting
but you get the idea!
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Taylor325i
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Where's the vid ?????
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Taylor325i
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Damn - beat me.
And thats with no boost will try it with later today!
Im gonna record that as well!
ive made a kind of bypass valve from an old egr valve i had knocking about it seems to open under vacuum with charger turned off im hoping it will do the same with it turned on and not leak loads! ive left it open to atmos at the mo so i will be able to hear any leaks!
Im gonna record that as well!
ive made a kind of bypass valve from an old egr valve i had knocking about it seems to open under vacuum with charger turned off im hoping it will do the same with it turned on and not leak loads! ive left it open to atmos at the mo so i will be able to hear any leaks!
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Turbo-Brown
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Boo! Can't get the video to work
Ho well, almost finished the wiring of the Emerald yesterday, going from this:


to this:

Also made the second manifold and made sure the turbos fitted under the bonnet.
They do, and I did take some piccies, but then my awesome free camera decided to delete them
Ho well, almost finished the wiring of the Emerald yesterday, going from this:


to this:

Also made the second manifold and made sure the turbos fitted under the bonnet.
They do, and I did take some piccies, but then my awesome free camera decided to delete them
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jamesroools
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Sjoerd320i
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:yeahthat:jamesroools wrote:video doesnt work for me either

For everyone it didnt play for ive converted it to windowsmedia
http://lentec-e30.tripod.com/vid.htm
hope this works
http://lentec-e30.tripod.com/vid.htm
hope this works
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Turbo-Brown
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Just says it's not there now
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Turbo-Brown
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Dude that sounds SWEEEEET!
Hope mine sounds like that!
Hope mine sounds like that!
just uploaded a new vid with boost
http://lentec-e30.tripod.com/vid.htm
think im gonna need to move the throttle body upstream
as the bypass valve wasnt enough!!
so im thinking making a dummy body out of steel and an adaptor plate!
any sugestions??
http://lentec-e30.tripod.com/vid.htm
think im gonna need to move the throttle body upstream
as the bypass valve wasnt enough!!
so im thinking making a dummy body out of steel and an adaptor plate!
any sugestions??
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Turbo-Brown
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You could perhaps turn up a couple of bungs for the existing TB, take the spindle and butterfly out and plug the resulting holes 
The throttle response on that is insane! Is that down to the Emerald do you think? Must admit the only thing I missed when I went from 205 GTi to 325i was the incredible throttle response in the GTi, hence the throttle bodies for my conversion.
Perhaps I needn't have bothered
The throttle response on that is insane! Is that down to the Emerald do you think? Must admit the only thing I missed when I went from 205 GTi to 325i was the incredible throttle response in the GTi, hence the throttle bodies for my conversion.
Perhaps I needn't have bothered
thats only reving to 2000rpm only just off throttle closed!
you cant hear it in the video as its too loud but the pipe poped off again!
so back to the drawing board
you cant hear it in the video as its too loud but the pipe poped off again!
so back to the drawing board
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Turbo-Brown
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Ooh, must be producing quite a lot of boost even at idle then?
so its plug'n'prey for you now is it!!
honest if you look in the vid you can see i only open the throttle a little bit!
the noise is the charger working against the throttle flap that was allmost closed hence when i bliped it the pipe popped
Just got some billet aluminium 10mm plate and some 100mm bar with a 50mm hole in it im gonna have a go at making a dummy throttle body so i can relocate the old one!
honest if you look in the vid you can see i only open the throttle a little bit!
the noise is the charger working against the throttle flap that was allmost closed hence when i bliped it the pipe popped
Just got some billet aluminium 10mm plate and some 100mm bar with a 50mm hole in it im gonna have a go at making a dummy throttle body so i can relocate the old one!
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320Touring
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vids aint working lentec
congrats on getting it runnign tho

congrats on getting it runnign tho
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Hopefully, but Ant has had some info from another MS user in the states and has given us another map to try, seems Jims map is way to rich and not as mapped as it could be, so the new one will be a more plug&play map.lentec wrote:so its plug'n'prey for you now is it!!
Hopefully I'll be able to get power to the MS tonight and get it to talk to my PC, then it's just the sensors to fit and only the TPS is a bit of a PITA.
The mustang one we have is HUGE compared to the std one.
So which pipe keeps popping off then?honest if you look in the vid you can see i only open the throttle a little bit!
the noise is the charger working against the throttle flap that was allmost closed hence when i bliped it the pipe popped![]()
Just got some billet aluminium 10mm plate and some 100mm bar with a 50mm hole in it im gonna have a go at making a dummy throttle body so i can relocate the old one!
the big shiney one to the top of the charger! sounds like a shotgun goin off!!
is the tps a bosch one?
is the tps a bosch one?
Doesn't say anything about manufacturer on it, only a item numberlentec wrote:the big shiney one to the top of the charger! sounds like a shotgun goin off!!
is the tps a bosch one?
The hole that is for the actual arm of the tps in 5x bigger than the std one, thinking of filling the hole full of araldite and letting it go off before attaching it to the custom bracket and then the TB, have you used the std one on yours?
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Ant
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Mark let me know how you get on plz M8
I await my stim kit so I may delve further.
Before you hook anything up M8, check the Megatune version you have is correct, the version you need to be using is the 417 one, the 390 will not talk to the MS unit as the firmware version is incorrect.
you will need to recalculate the REQ FUEL for the 714s too Mate, use the embedded claculator function, if you find the PWM is over 100% duty cycle then fudge the injector delivery by calculating it based on higher base fuel pressure,
ie:
714 @ 3 BAR= 204cc/min
714 @ 3.5 BAR= 238cc/min
Print off the Readme word document, theres a lot of extra info there with regard to setting it all up, you must alter the MSQ software so the # SET is next to the MsnS-Extra, all other values must be #UNSET, don't forget to copy the settings.ini file over
Good luck M8, gimme a buzz if you need a hand.
Assuming you get comms OK and set the base settings up you can go ahead and bin the AFM @ last !!
For the TPS.... the soloution is simple really, no araldite require, you can remove the stock innards from the Bosch unit, take the centre D drive spindle out and fit that inside the peg drive TPS supplied, sounds odd I know but you'll see, the D "adapter" will only fit in one position so i kinda sets itself up.
I'll take some pix of mine tomoz if I actaully get Lunch
I await my stim kit so I may delve further.
Before you hook anything up M8, check the Megatune version you have is correct, the version you need to be using is the 417 one, the 390 will not talk to the MS unit as the firmware version is incorrect.
you will need to recalculate the REQ FUEL for the 714s too Mate, use the embedded claculator function, if you find the PWM is over 100% duty cycle then fudge the injector delivery by calculating it based on higher base fuel pressure,
ie:
714 @ 3 BAR= 204cc/min
714 @ 3.5 BAR= 238cc/min
Print off the Readme word document, theres a lot of extra info there with regard to setting it all up, you must alter the MSQ software so the # SET is next to the MsnS-Extra, all other values must be #UNSET, don't forget to copy the settings.ini file over
Good luck M8, gimme a buzz if you need a hand.
Assuming you get comms OK and set the base settings up you can go ahead and bin the AFM @ last !!
For the TPS.... the soloution is simple really, no araldite require, you can remove the stock innards from the Bosch unit, take the centre D drive spindle out and fit that inside the peg drive TPS supplied, sounds odd I know but you'll see, the D "adapter" will only fit in one position so i kinda sets itself up.
I'll take some pix of mine tomoz if I actaully get Lunch
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Ant,ant wrote:Mark let me know how you get on plz M8
I await my stim kit so I may delve further.
Before you hook anything up M8, check the Megatune version you have is correct, the version you need to be using is the 417 one, the 390 will not talk to the MS unit as the firmware version is incorrect.
you will need to recalculate the REQ FUEL for the 714s too Mate, use the embedded claculator function, if you find the PWM is over 100% duty cycle then fudge the injector delivery by calculating it based on higher base fuel pressure,
ie:
714 @ 3 BAR= 204cc/min
714 @ 3.5 BAR= 238cc/min
Print off the Readme word document, theres a lot of extra info there with regard to setting it all up, you must alter the MSQ software so the # SET is next to the MsnS-Extra, all other values must be #UNSET, don't forget to copy the settings.ini file over
Good luck M8, gimme a buzz if you need a hand.
Assuming you get comms OK and set the base settings up you can go ahead and bin the AFM @ last !!
For the TPS.... the soloution is simple really, no araldite require, you can remove the stock innards from the Bosch unit, take the centre D drive spindle out and fit that inside the peg drive TPS supplied, sounds odd I know but you'll see, the D "adapter" will only fit in one position so i kinda sets itself up.
I'll take some pix of mine tomoz if I actaully get Lunch
I checked I have the correct version now, def 417, I've changed the settings so that msns-extra is now #set, but not sure on the ini file side. It's missing of JD's site and when you follow the link there are a few to choose from....just need a little help making sure I get the right one.
I had managed to use JD's map he sent us and I now have figures on the gauges etc, but yet to plug in the MS box.....tonight 4 sure
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Call me f you need to M8, you got my numbers 
Stim arrived today ( thanks Bill !! legend !) will toil further this evening and see whats what, hopefully
Stim arrived today ( thanks Bill !! legend !) will toil further this evening and see whats what, hopefully
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Andy335Touring
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I don't know if this is of use to you chaps but i thought i'd post a picy of my Emerald TPS and say that it fits the D-shaft with out any mods,you have got to make a mounting/adapter plate though.
http://emeraldm3d.com/em_pricing.html

HTH
Andy
http://emeraldm3d.com/em_pricing.html

HTH
Andy
this is mine its from a vauxhall/volvo/saab/ect
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