BUYERS WARNING
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Richy325iTouring
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DO NOT BUY ANYTHING OFF MARK3 THE GUY IS A COMPLETTE TOSSER MY OPINION
RIGHT IVE BOUGHT A HEAD OFF HIM ADVERTISED AS A 325 HEAD
with new cam kit etc it turns out after fitting and further investigation its a 320 head
yes i gave him points cos it was delivered on time because im on a deadline toget the car sorted.
Turns out though that after a few phone calls and texts he isnt willing to refund me mymoney Ԛ£225 or send me what was advertised a 325 head
either id be happy with
the closest i gotto getting a 325 head off him was to send him another pile of money i havntgot
not onlyhas this cost me 225 for the head but also cost me a headset which is now fucked and my time
to say im pissed off is an understatement
basicaly i cant do fuck all
except lose the moeny i have forked out aint gona get my money back for a 320 head that now sat here along with 2 fucked 325 heads i already have.
So please be aware DON NOT HAVE ANY DEALINGS WITH THIS GUY
i am now going to scrape my touring as i can not afford to put anymore money into it
thanks mark you shafted me big time you cunt
btw i have your address
RIGHT IVE BOUGHT A HEAD OFF HIM ADVERTISED AS A 325 HEAD
with new cam kit etc it turns out after fitting and further investigation its a 320 head
yes i gave him points cos it was delivered on time because im on a deadline toget the car sorted.
Turns out though that after a few phone calls and texts he isnt willing to refund me mymoney Ԛ£225 or send me what was advertised a 325 head
either id be happy with
the closest i gotto getting a 325 head off him was to send him another pile of money i havntgot
not onlyhas this cost me 225 for the head but also cost me a headset which is now fucked and my time
to say im pissed off is an understatement
basicaly i cant do fuck all
except lose the moeny i have forked out aint gona get my money back for a 320 head that now sat here along with 2 fucked 325 heads i already have.
So please be aware DON NOT HAVE ANY DEALINGS WITH THIS GUY
i am now going to scrape my touring as i can not afford to put anymore money into it
thanks mark you shafted me big time you cunt
btw i have your address
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Chaos
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what a tosser.
surely he shud be either swapping or giving u back ur cash plus AT THE VERY LEAST a donation towards the headset if not the whole lot.
surely he shud be either swapping or giving u back ur cash plus AT THE VERY LEAST a donation towards the headset if not the whole lot.
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glenn
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how can someone do this to another zoner, i'm in disbelief.
he should arrange the collection of the wrong head, and send down the correct one.
and what about compensation for the gaskets and your time.
the ball is in your court mark3
he should arrange the collection of the wrong head, and send down the correct one.
and what about compensation for the gaskets and your time.
the ball is in your court mark3
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ian332isport
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Just want to let people know that we are watching this thread (and the other one), so try and keep things civil, or the post will be locked
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dazleeds
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thanks for the warning mate
and i really cant believe he has the balls to rip you off like this
as you say you have his address so im sure youll sort this problem out mate Daz leeds
dnt scrap the car mate thats really letting th little cunt win
and i really cant believe he has the balls to rip you off like this
as you say you have his address so im sure youll sort this problem out mate Daz leeds
dnt scrap the car mate thats really letting th little cunt win
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Zayyan
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That's really bad luck, can't believe that just because of this guy Nemo's gonna be scrapped
If he refuses to give your money back, surely the receipt stating that it's a 325i head would help?
If he refuses to give your money back, surely the receipt stating that it's a 325i head would help?
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SCOTT325SE
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bugger the gasket, thats irrelevant to be honest guys. the fact that he advertised a head as being for a 325 when its not is wrong.
mark, in reality mate, you have 2 options to save yourself....
1)give richy his Ԛ£225 back and you can have the 320 head back. richys only loss then is on the headset. Your only loss then will be the postage fees to take the head back that you wrongly claimed was for a 325. I re-word that for you - It was YOUR mistake.
2)Send richy the 325 head that you told him that you have. Richy WILL send the 320 head back in exchange. Ive dropped stuff off at Richys a couple of times and left without asking for payment. Richy has chased ME to GIVE me the money for the items he has had - thats how honest this guy is!
The E30Zone is a tight-knit community and people who have shafted others on here dont last long at all. The last person who tried conning a Zoner got ousted and is in prison for fraud (it wasnt ONLY the e30zoners he was conning, it was all sorts of forums). The point im making is this - if you dont give richy his money back or exchange the 325/320 heads, you wont sell ANYTHING on here EVER again, because people just wont trust you. It really is that simple. The Zone is a good place to sell e30 parts and you could earn a lot of money off this place, IF you are honest and fair and decent.
Dont be a tw@t mate, see sence and face the fact that you sent him incorrect goods and lets resolve this in the proper manner.
mark, in reality mate, you have 2 options to save yourself....
1)give richy his Ԛ£225 back and you can have the 320 head back. richys only loss then is on the headset. Your only loss then will be the postage fees to take the head back that you wrongly claimed was for a 325. I re-word that for you - It was YOUR mistake.
2)Send richy the 325 head that you told him that you have. Richy WILL send the 320 head back in exchange. Ive dropped stuff off at Richys a couple of times and left without asking for payment. Richy has chased ME to GIVE me the money for the items he has had - thats how honest this guy is!
The E30Zone is a tight-knit community and people who have shafted others on here dont last long at all. The last person who tried conning a Zoner got ousted and is in prison for fraud (it wasnt ONLY the e30zoners he was conning, it was all sorts of forums). The point im making is this - if you dont give richy his money back or exchange the 325/320 heads, you wont sell ANYTHING on here EVER again, because people just wont trust you. It really is that simple. The Zone is a good place to sell e30 parts and you could earn a lot of money off this place, IF you are honest and fair and decent.
Dont be a tw@t mate, see sence and face the fact that you sent him incorrect goods and lets resolve this in the proper manner.
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dazleeds
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:yeahthat: couldnt put it better than that mate
its upto you mark3 the zone wont trust you at all if this aint resolved and is it really worth it for Ԛ£250?? like scott said if you wanna sell parts its almost guarenteed theyll sell on here and you could make plenty if you get yaself a good rep think about it mate
Richy only just realised it was you cant believe it mate yet again a spanner in the works i feel for you man ive had cars that have been just as unlucky hope this gets resolved and you get everything sorted mate good luck Daz leeds
its upto you mark3 the zone wont trust you at all if this aint resolved and is it really worth it for Ԛ£250?? like scott said if you wanna sell parts its almost guarenteed theyll sell on here and you could make plenty if you get yaself a good rep think about it mate
Richy only just realised it was you cant believe it mate yet again a spanner in the works i feel for you man ive had cars that have been just as unlucky hope this gets resolved and you get everything sorted mate good luck Daz leeds
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Richy325iTouring
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at end of the day all i want s themoney returned and head collected not at my expence
my car is being broken as i cant afford to keep it off the road any longer so any money from parts and the returned money will go to a new car
the money is needed as i need some kind of transport for work
now way im gona make back what the car owes me but least then i can get something even if its a deiselford or summut
my car is being broken as i cant afford to keep it off the road any longer so any money from parts and the returned money will go to a new car
the money is needed as i need some kind of transport for work
now way im gona make back what the car owes me but least then i can get something even if its a deiselford or summut

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mark3
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I have just saw this thread richie/mods I sold it in good faith I only heard today it was a 2l & not a 2.5 what can i do in a day 5richie i have behaved in a proffesional civalised manner through out ringing & texting you so why are you posting this. BANG OUT OF ORDER
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Richy325iTouring
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i asked for the money backor the head as advertised that when you was being arsy via text
i kept this off the zone untill then so how is it bang out of order
i kept this off the zone untill then so how is it bang out of order

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mark3
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richie i cannot believe how 2 faced you are you tell me one thing & then post some thing else?If i was going to ripp you off why would i send a head at all yet alone a mint one as "YOU" described it the fact is i have been trying my best to sort something out for you! yet rather than have a decent conversation you post snidey comments slandering me when all i have tried to do is sort it out for you by the way folks i still have not recieved full payment any way but posted the head before hand moderators I believe I have done no wrong what so ever i have answered every phone call ,rang him , text him, anyway how do i know its a 2l head i have to take your word for it,
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Richy325iTouring
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howam i being 2 faced
and if you think im sending thefog light now your mistaken
not untill this is sorted
its a 320 head
around thevalves are smaller than a 325 and the number onthehead is different to a 325 and this i belive i told you on the phone
now asking for a refund and collection of this head isnt to much to ask
and also its been checked by a family freind that hasdone my famileies cars for years and this is one of the few mechanics i trust or let near my car
and if you think im sending thefog light now your mistaken
not untill this is sorted
its a 320 head
around thevalves are smaller than a 325 and the number onthehead is different to a 325 and this i belive i told you on the phone
now asking for a refund and collection of this head isnt to much to ask
and also its been checked by a family freind that hasdone my famileies cars for years and this is one of the few mechanics i trust or let near my car

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Richy325iTouring
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theres one question that youhavent answered and that is are you going to find a head that has had a new cam kit like this 320 one and that was advertised
all im getting from you is put it to one side and you will send me the other one but you want more money for it
all im getting from you is put it to one side and you will send me the other one but you want more money for it

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mark3
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so why are you posting buyers beware when i have been trying to sort it out for you why not tell everyone about the mint head i did send that i was told it was a 2.5 whos out of order now ,like any good retailer even after all the slander send it back FIRST & i will sort it out for you,I bent over backwards sorting this head for you delivery even upgraded at no extra cost to parcel force next day from parcel force 48, witch hunters shame on you
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Richy325iTouring
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so answer my next question
are you goingto refund themoney and arange collection of the 320 head
are you goingto refund themoney and arange collection of the 320 head

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Davenotouring
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I hope this gets resolved!
Sorry to butt in, I bought a touring off of Mark and he was helpful to me. It's an unfortunate situation.

Sorry to butt in, I bought a touring off of Mark and he was helpful to me. It's an unfortunate situation.

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SCOTT325SE
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I have a FAIR idea, as neither of you will want to send the other the goods/money first... why dont you send the money AND goods to a moderator OR send the goods COD
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Richy325iTouring
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This aint gona get sorted is it
I just now know who not to deal with
so basicaly i now have a mint 320 head if anyone wants it serious offers taken
got to make some money back
and there a black 325 touring being broken see my thread in for sale section no engine though as it hasnt got a head.
Simon what ever you want off my touring is yours mate
I just now know who not to deal with
so basicaly i now have a mint 320 head if anyone wants it serious offers taken
got to make some money back
and there a black 325 touring being broken see my thread in for sale section no engine though as it hasnt got a head.
Simon what ever you want off my touring is yours mate

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mark3
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lookI am totally f~~~g innocent I really cant believe that it has come to this scott why am i being a twat? for sending an absoloutly mint head ,upgrading the lads postage free?offering numerous alternatives? & all i get back is a total slating & a text message saying he is taking me to court? for what bending over back wards trying to help a fellow zoner out? I have been visiting these forums for years dealt with loads of people yet this lad thinks he can try & publically shame me if i sold him a cracked warped rusted head fair enough if there is a mistake been made its been made from who i bought it off not me, keep the zone to yourself you dont need robbing scumbags like me around do you thank you touring daddy I will return your wallet camera & phone later after i finish community service, been nice on here goodbye.
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Richy325iTouring
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Doesnt matter now mistake hasbeen made lets leaveit there
mods lock and delete both threads thank you
mods lock and delete both threads thank you

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Simon13
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Don't think u should leave over this, u have a good name on here and have dealt with alot of people on here. If it's a mistake then hairy muff u can only do as u have done. Sort it and weather them storm matemark3 wrote:lookI am totally f~~~g innocent I really cant believe that it has come to this scott why am i being a twat? for sending an absoloutly mint head ,upgrading the lads postage free?offering numerous alternatives? & all i get back is a total slating & a text message saying he is taking me to court? for what bending over back wards trying to help a fellow zoner out? I have been visiting these forums for years dealt with loads of people yet this lad thinks he can try & publically shame me if i sold him a cracked warped rusted head fair enough if there is a mistake been made its been made from who i bought it off not me, keep the zone to yourself you dont need robbing scumbags like me around do you thank you touring daddy I will return your wallet camera & phone later after i finish community service, been nice on here goodbye.
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SCOTT325SE
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if you read my post correctly, it says "DONT be a tw@t" not "you are being a tw@t"mark3 wrote: scott why am i being a twat?
Lets do this one step at a time and i wont call anyone names or anything (Mark & Richy, do likewise) ok....
Right....
Richy wanted a 325 head. he got a 320 head.
You have Ԛ£225 off Richy, yes? (correct me on anything thats incorrect here)
IF richy sent the head back to you, would he get his Ԛ£225 back?
This is step 1.
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Richy325iTouring
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doesnt matter now cos richy is breaking the car
i have askedfor money to be returend and head collected but been accused of saying that the head isnt what i say it is when i know it isnt a 325 head
i have askedfor money to be returend and head collected but been accused of saying that the head isnt what i say it is when i know it isnt a 325 head

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Chaos
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theres a simple solution to this mess.
just do as scott suggests and send richy back the money and he sends u the head back.
this would be the end of it - you keep your good name and richy at least gets the money from the head back.
personally i think u ought to pay something towards the headset that richy had to buy and is now ruined, but thats up to if you feel like doing what shud be the right thing to do.
just do as scott suggests and send richy back the money and he sends u the head back.
this would be the end of it - you keep your good name and richy at least gets the money from the head back.
personally i think u ought to pay something towards the headset that richy had to buy and is now ruined, but thats up to if you feel like doing what shud be the right thing to do.
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Richy325iTouring
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there is really no point the money isnt going tobe returned.
all i havehad off markis put the 320 head aside andhe will send mehis 325 head for something of simular money or more money
sorry but that isnt happening
im being made to look a cunt when i was supplied thewrongparts withno offer of refund after countless phone callls and text which i have saved and which are all unreasonable.
As there is going tobe no end to this i would ask the mods again to close and delete these threads before things turn nasty
i am down money andhave a pat that is no good to me and not what it was said to have been.
I now know who to have dealings with from now on and im sticking to the welsh lads unless someone is highly recomended by the welsh lads.
i havent had these problems with scot with the engine i had off him
even while he was in italy he still sorted things out andfor that he is a top guy.
So all my dealings will be with scot jonb and simon
now can this be closed now
thanks Richy
all i havehad off markis put the 320 head aside andhe will send mehis 325 head for something of simular money or more money
sorry but that isnt happening
im being made to look a cunt when i was supplied thewrongparts withno offer of refund after countless phone callls and text which i have saved and which are all unreasonable.
As there is going tobe no end to this i would ask the mods again to close and delete these threads before things turn nasty
i am down money andhave a pat that is no good to me and not what it was said to have been.
I now know who to have dealings with from now on and im sticking to the welsh lads unless someone is highly recomended by the welsh lads.
i havent had these problems with scot with the engine i had off him
even while he was in italy he still sorted things out andfor that he is a top guy.
So all my dealings will be with scot jonb and simon
now can this be closed now
thanks Richy

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chu346
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This reminds me of when i got done by m1key http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... hlight=320
The guy didn't send owt and didn't give me a refund!!!
The guy didn't send owt and didn't give me a refund!!!
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Simon
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Did you sort this out after? The guy is still posting on the zone...chu346 wrote:This reminds me of when i got done by m1key http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... hlight=320
The guy didn't send owt and didn't give me a refund!!!

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craigieeb
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this is a propa sh1ts trick, mark3 just give the lad his money back,
simple!
(the big geordie lad has spoken.)
simple!
(the big geordie lad has spoken.)
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Sjoerd320i
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sorry to bop in here
but I have to disagree with you Graigeeib
I believe mark3 that he "just" made a mistake shit happens you know
only thing I have to say is that it is up to mark to sort this out becauss after all it is his fault, just give Richy a refund and he WILL send you back the head, I have never heard anybody complain who dealt (spel) with richy so you Can trust him he will send you the head back, or sort him out a 2.5 head
to richy, please don't brake nemo man just sell the wheels etc. but keep nemo

but I have to disagree with you Graigeeib
I believe mark3 that he "just" made a mistake shit happens you know
only thing I have to say is that it is up to mark to sort this out becauss after all it is his fault, just give Richy a refund and he WILL send you back the head, I have never heard anybody complain who dealt (spel) with richy so you Can trust him he will send you the head back, or sort him out a 2.5 head
to richy, please don't brake nemo man just sell the wheels etc. but keep nemo

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craigieeb
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sojerd, how can you dissagree with what iv just wrote?? when you have just wrote the same????craigieeb wrote:this is a propa sh1ts trick, mark3 just give the lad his money back
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Chaos
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i accept it cud be a genuine mistake
but if it is then mark3 shud be bending over backwards to rectify the mistake - a mistake that lets be brutally honest has cost richy over Ԛ£300
but if it is then mark3 shud be bending over backwards to rectify the mistake - a mistake that lets be brutally honest has cost richy over Ԛ£300
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Sjoerd320i
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hmmmm sorry
guess I misunderstood "shit trick" m8
guess I misunderstood "shit trick" m8

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Sjoerd320i
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I totaly agree with that mate,Chaos wrote:i accept it cud be a genuine mistake
but if it is then mark3 shud be bending over backwards to rectify the mistake - a mistake that lets be brutally honest has cost richy over Ԛ£300
but something has to happen then, instead of all this talking, I think mark knows what to do asap



