Rat or Scrap!

[Ollie_bwoii]

IMO SCRAP

[rob_htid]

the 2nd one is awsome!

[Ollie_bwoii]

I thought the first one was the best! Kinda cool with the turbo arches!

[bss325i]

They are both shit and you would look like a pike driving them!

[harry_p]

i quite like them, they both look like they've kind of evolved to be like that, rather than the fake spray a bit of primer here and there over decent pannels and attack the body with some sand paper engineered 'rat' look.

[fuzzy]

scrap.put them out their misery.

[Alex]

first one needs a respray and the second needs modified front wings and a respray in alpine white

[Ollie_bwoii]

SACRALIGE!

I can understand beetle turds but this....





What a waste! Although I quite like the slammed look of it!

[anisotropy]

The first one is perfect, I believe the guy is now doing an e12 m535i, the second one is trying too hard. You have to get it just right with rat look.

[spook]

That black one belongs to a zoner, thats his new Greek chariot, Gooners the name

[gooner1]

That black one belongs to a zoner, thats his new Greek chariot, Gooners the name

Mine won,t be that classy Chris.

[bmw1066]

Loving the 1st one

[pac1982]

I’m not a fan of this whole rat look thing, the way is see it its just making your car look rotten and uncared for add a few more shitty bits and your done??

Having said that there is one rat car i do like...............

[rob0r]

IMO SCRAP

Pardon? It's scrap because the panels are mismatched colours? I guarentee this car has had more work and effort put into it than most of the E30s on this forum. It's recently featured on the front cover of Practical Performance Car, and as been photo'd in many other mags. The car has had pretty much a ground up rebuild and it's 2L M10 had been converted to EFI with a pretty trick setup. The picture taken above is from the most recent RAF Marham track day, since this is what the owner intends to do with the car and looks are the least of his concern. The colours have been derived from replacement panels and rust protection. Just because a car hasn't had a respray it doesn't mean they don't care for the car. Yes, he is also now in the middle of rebuilding an E12 M535i.

Build thread:
http://retrorides.proboards86.com/index ... 402&page=1

[Jhonno]

IMO SCRAP

Pardon? It's scrap because the panels are mismatched colours? I guarentee this car has had more work and effort put into it than most of the E30s on this forum. It's recently featured on the front cover of Practical Performance Car, and as been photo'd in many other mags. The car has had pretty much a ground up rebuild and it's 2L M10 had been converted to EFI with a pretty trick setup. The picture taken above is from the most recent RAF Marham track day, since this is what the owner intends to do with the car and looks are the least of his concern. The colours have been derived from replacement panels and rust protection. Just because a car hasn't had a respray it doesn't mean they don't care for the car. Yes, he is also now in the middle of rebuilding an E12 M535i.

Build thread:
http://retrorides.proboards86.com/index ... 402&page=1

The dude also owns an m50'd e30!

[bss325i]

Fair play to the effort put into it mechanicly but i just 'dont get' the rat look.

[adit]

Fair play to the effort put into it mechanicly but i just 'dont get' the rat look.

+1. maybe i'm getting old but (and i know this is the point) it just looks completely sh1t, nothing to have any pride in whatsoever.

[Incitatus]

Fair play to the effort put into it mechanicly but i just 'dont get' the rat look.

You'll enjoy this then! http://www.mk1dubs.com/modules.php?name ... pic&t=2419

[anisotropy]

Fair play to the effort put into it mechanicly but i just 'dont get' the rat look.

+1. maybe i'm getting old but (and i know this is the point) it just looks completely sh1t, nothing to have any pride in whatsoever.

Exactly -Rat look is an anti-aesthetic aesthetic. People not getting it is the point as is the creation of an aesthetic that counters prevailing values. Like most anti-aesthetic aesthetics it is more difficult than it looks (not like it being difficult is the point either).
I don't have a rat look car but I can really appreciate the judgement and creativity going into the 2002 with the arches. I like how it makes a virtue of the scrap yard origins and the home-made nature of the cars rather than hiding them away. Rat look cars like that really work.

[E30BeemerLad]

Love the first car and remember reading about it in PPC
Ratlook resto FTW!

[wakster]

My heart sank when i saw the first picture. I love that car and the owner is a real nice guy, real car nut and as robor has said there has been a lot of time spent on it.

oh hai btw!

[GrindCulture]

They're both awesome

[rob0r]

What I find most amusing on this thread is the emphasis that the 2002's rat look is deliberate, he did all the repairs himself and didn't bother painting it. I think there's more pride in restoring a car from the ground up than a cheque book respray . My mate in question lives down the road and has a workshop on my farm, and trust me he has the ability to paint the car himself, he just has other priorities for the car

[mattm]

SACRALIGE!

I can understand beetle turds but this....





What a waste! Although I quite like the slammed look of it!

^^^Agreed!

I'd much rather see that painted. A nice satin blue would look

The slammed look is

[AndyG]

I was at Marham when it was there, it certainly went well.

[tha_lick]

those are quality!

[E30BeemerLad]

What I find most amusing on this thread is the emphasis that the 2002's rat look is deliberate, he did all the repairs himself and didn't bother painting it. I think there's more pride in restoring a car from the ground up than a cheque book respray . My mate in question lives down the road and has a workshop on my farm, and trust me he has the ability to paint the car himself, he just has other priorities for the car

Is that Mrs Merton riding shotgun

[Rosc0PColtrane]

What's that on the bumper?

[E30BeemerLad]

looks like an oil cooler to me

[miniblob]

Loving the rat look!!!!!!!!

Also starting to realise that any nice cars just get ruined more easily - scratches, car park dings, vandelism.
Any ***** that do that kind of thing would prob just stroll straight past a 'ratty' motor without even a second glance!!

Tempted to get something a bit ratty myself when i've sold the three cars in my sig!!!

[barryj]

They are both shit and you would look like a pike driving them!

Pardon?

[Jhonno]

I don't mind the rat look, I think done right it looks cool, however I fooking hate matt/satin black cars

[DHFiS]

looks like an oil cooler to me

I think you are right but in that position its a bit exposed to damage IMHO.

[rob0r]

looks like an oil cooler to me

I think you are right but in that position its a bit exposed to damage IMHO.

Yeah it's an oil cooler, the position is a nod to how some modded japanese cars mount theirs.

I was at Marham when it was there, it certainly went well.

Ahright, what were you in that day? I was in a battered silver 318is

[SUMPCRACKER]

I agree with miniblob, everytime I get another carpark dent ect..I think what an easy unstressed life I could have with a rat look car,just concentrating on the mechanical parts and leaving the body alone.