Nurburgring Perfect Car ?

[dtmpower]

Nurburgring Perfect Car ?

I have been thinking for ages - and with recent exposure on Top Gear

and these forums, The Nurburgring is now popular and relatively

local and hence more and more people are keen to try their hand / test

their car or bike on what is a long difficult treacherous track.

So giving that, and seeing lots of pictures from the track. I was

wondering what makes the perfect Nurburgringer ? I am talking a car

you can drive daily, maybe modify accordingly to endure the track and

the journey to/from Germany... all for say Ԛ£5k on the road...you want

aircon to keep you cool on the long boring motorway slog in France and

Belgium and you want reliable track performance for a days hard

driving.

So here is the criteria- Ԛ£5k on the road, aircon, reliable for

everyday use.

FWD or RWD ?
Turbo or Normally Aspirated ?
Hatch or Saloon ? Coupe or Family Car ?
LHD or RHD ?

Modifications ? Brakes, Engine , Interior , Safety Concerns ?

[e30_Turbo]

Get a M3, pick one up for Ԛ£5k easy and enjoy the best handling car on the best curcuit.....easy as!!

And stuff JC's 9.59 time too!!

[Guest]

the locals use battered mk 1 and 2 golfs and e30's

for Ԛ£5K that would get ya a fairly good car, tyres, brakes and pads & a year pass, plus petty and breakdown cover for a year.

probably a couple of wings for off's and left overs for a few armco barriers

seriously tho one of the fastest i have seen round there was a porker 968.

[Davenotouring]

I say don't bother with air con, but obviously it's up to you.

As we drove through France, Belguim and Germany it was boiling hot, and we were all loving it with the windows down cruising along!

More weight and worse MPG with air con!

Anyway,

A well set-up 325i would be a great 'Ring tool. With H&R Cup kit, and uprated brakes, a full service and cambelt, and decent tyres.

Failing that, as fozzy said, for a larger wegde, an E30 M3 would be ideal. They are pretty well set-up from the factory, so with a bit of looking after that would be good too!

I took my '91 Honda Civic VT, and to me, it was ideal, easily quick enough for a first-timer and reliable and comfortable as you need. Plus it cost Ԛ£575!

I got a 9:30 round the track, this was with slowing down a couple of times for an accident etc.

It's awesome fun and you'll love it regardless of what car you take. As seen on Top Gear, even a Transit van is good fun.

[320Touring]

for 5k i'd have a e32 750il

with an LPG convertion

leather, air con, a 5l v12 with 300bhp and possibly a turbo or two

[austen_e30]

Just returned from my 2nd trip to the ring in a newage Impreza WRX with suspension and engine mods and uprated discs and pads. The car is fantastic around the ring, but the running costs are horrific as it eats pads, discs and tyres, plus the terrible mpg. The standard brakes(even with uprated discs and pads) are just not up to track work, and to get a set of brakes that could cope with it i was loooking at Ԛ£1500 (AP 6 pots). I did 22 laps and the weekend away cost me about Ԛ£1200 all in!!!! This is the reason we have just bought an e30 325i to prep as a track car. There are loads of M3's (all ages) and e30's there being given a good thrashing. Hopefully we will be tacking the e30 over there again this year!!! :D:D

[UweM3]

don't let the battered look of the locals Mk1 Golf's and the like fool you.
They have some serious kit under the skin! They just don't spend a fortune on cosmetics, why bother if one mistake can be the end of the lovely sprayed shell.

[andyp]

E30 M3 all the way

[Chaos]

E36 M3 or E34 M5

pros
very fast
fun
reliable
comfy
much more suited for the journey to and from the ring than an e30 wud be.


cons
not as fun at lower speeds as an e30 wud be.


as stated this car has to be for day to day use as well, so i wudnt bother with an e30 m3 myself - lhd and 4 pot wrongness wud put me off for daily use.


If u wanted fwd then summit like daves civic vti or a crx or corrado vr6 wud be ideal.

[Karan]

i think a cheap shitter is the way forward... must be reliable thougfh

this is the reason i am reluctant (but still willing) to take my sport to the ring!

perhaps chea 325 with sensible mods like dave suggested can be done under 2k easily!

golf?

other fwd wrongness... also acceptable as its not as if ure gonna be drifting round the place evry corner neways!

[glenn]

mine

[E30BeemerLad]

Porsche 944 can be picked up on the cheap, has RWD and 50/50 weight distribution. Should be reliable enough to get you there and back. An early turbo with cosmetics could be picked up for Ԛ£2K.

Can't knock the MK2 Golf though or a smoker of a 325i

[Chaos]

Porsche 944 can be picked up on the cheap, has RWD and 50/50 weight distribution. Should be reliable enough to get you there and back. An early turbo with cosmetics could be picked up for Ԛ£2K.

Can't knock the MK2 Golf though or a smoker of a 325i

if if the price limit had been lower id have def said e30 325i


glenn ur car wud be mental round there, i cant wait to finally see it

[glenn]

glenn ur car wud be mental round there, i cant wait to finally see it

no problem nic,
get richy to bring you up, i'm nearly allways here.

[Demlotcrew]

E36 M3 or E34 M5

pros
very fast
fun
reliable
comfy
much more suited for the journey to and from the ring than an e30 wud be.


cons
not as fun at lower speeds as an e30 wud be.


as stated this car has to be for day to day use as well, so i wudnt bother with an e30 m3 myself - lhd and 4 pot wrongness wud put me off for daily use.


If u wanted fwd then summit like daves civic vti or a crx or corrado vr6 wud be ideal.

Funny that, we spoke to a few 'ringers' there and they said they prefer their E30 over the E36 M3 they were sporting at the time.

A

[Demlotcrew]

glenn ur car wud be mental round there, i cant wait to finally see it

no problem nic,
get richy to bring you up, i'm nearly allways here.

I would also like to see how it performes on the track.

A

[Zayyan]

Ԛ£5k would get you a very nice 320is and enough left to sort the suspension out.......better than a slightly tatty M3 for the same money