oh God, ANOTHER 'whats it worth' thread! (M3 Cab)

[SCOTT325SE]

Right.... firstly, appologies for ANOTHER 'whats it worth' thread.

Im far from an M3 know-it-all, so thought i'd ask here....
Today I came across a red M3 Convertable/Cabrio/Ragtop/whatever.

Hood needs replacing,
alloys are scrap
the interior has seen far better days.
It appears to have seen 70k miles.
Its a left-hooker
All the kit seems to be there
Apparently is a 2.5.
bodywork looks fairly tidy. I think the boot has been replaced but I couldnt REALLY get a good look at it, as it was parked in the corner of a yard. It was also pretty dirty (hasnt been washed in a long time, as dust/dirt/pollution on the paintwork was pretty bad.
No pics sorry, so I know this is going to limit the depth of the responces, but whats a M3 Cab worth, in poor nic? I'll base my judgement and offer to the guy on that.
The guy said it'll come with a fresh MOT if i want the car (his mate will probably write one out on the back of a cereal box maybe. Its been stood for about 18 months but has been moved about the yard a bit.


Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

P.S. Its on a Q plate (not sure why)

[d6dph]

The Q plate thing would be my first concern Scott. I'd look into that before anything else.

[Jhonno]

Depending why it is on a Q plate you can sometimes get it put back with correct proof or something iirc

[pacerpete]

All cabs were 2.3s . Q plate usually indicates wrongness, check that vin number on scuttle matches chassis plate and do a vehicle check with your local dealer to make sure its not a vin number pertaining to a 316 4 door
Early cars have a hydraulic roof, later cars electric.( NO MANUAL ROOFS ON M3's.) They are both aggro and $ when they expire.

A nice historied cab is now 10k + . This sounds as if it is far from nice but if it is complete and runs and drives it will frag to 5k plus so is worth a bid. I wouldn't be too worried about a Q if everything matches up and it states on the V5 it is an M3 cab as these are very good news in europe and the Q won't affect the value if selling the car abroad. It is a different story here abviously

Scott, give me a ring for more info

[march109]

£2k tops, worth scrap value only. Thats also assuming mechanically it fine. Less if its not.

[E30BeemerLad]

Burris you executive

[pacerpete]

£2k tops, worth scrap value only. Thats also assuming mechanically it fine. Less if its not.

Bearing in mind engines sell for 2.5K all day long it probably won't be going anywhere for 2 bags !

[rikster]

£2k tops, worth scrap value only. Thats also assuming mechanically it fine. Less if its not.

2k for the engine even the shell a get you a good return

[march109]

£2k tops, worth scrap value only. Thats also assuming mechanically it fine. Less if its not.

Bearing in mind engines sell for 2.5K all day long it probably won't be going anywhere for 2 bags !

What would you want to buy it for then? If its a heap no sence buying it for £2.5k or more since if you haven't had a good look over it and you need to break it you'd only be able to recoup the £2.5k.

So my question is pete what would you buy it for?

[Felix79]

I would stay well away anything with a Q plate. You just will find it a living nightmare , insurance is sky high for a start and you'll have difficulty trying to resell it.
Also if it's been left there shows that it's not been cared about proerly. Also have a M3 softtop beats the whole point of the M3 MO.

[pacerpete]

£2k tops, worth scrap value only. Thats also assuming mechanically it fine. Less if its not.

Bearing in mind engines sell for 2.5K all day long it probably won't be going anywhere for 2 bags !

What would you want to buy it for then? If its a heap no sence buying it for £2.5k or more since if you haven't had a good look over it and you need to break it you'd only be able to recoup the £2.5k.

So my question is pete what would you buy it for?

I will buy anything i can make a profit out of.

A tidy M3 cab is 10k+ in the UK.

Any dog that is complete and will drag itself down the road is 5k+ .

Any sound albeit rough/wrong M3 will frag to 5k .

Lots of options, lots of ways to make an eric. Obviously the price offered / paid should be a reflection of the turds condition / story /history.
I haven't seen the car so can't say exactly what i think it is worth but i'd like to be a buyer at the right price

[SCOTT325SE]

whilst the opinions on the most relevant useage are all interesting, the initial question was 'whats it worth?'

The useage will depend on how good I deem it to be when I have a proper look around it. Once I've had a proper look, I'll POSSIBLY put my 4door up for sale to raise a bit of extra cash to restore it if its worth restoring, or frag the mo-fo and rape it for whatever its worth and send it to the big munich in the sky. After talking with Mr Pacer earlier (I think your battery is dead by the way Pete lol) I have several options on what to do with it IF i buy it.

I'm gonna get prices for a new hood, some alloys and tyres, interior and service and make the guy an offer depending on its overall condition and what the bits will cost me.

[Simon13]

well the engines are tough, if it's not rotton you could buy it for 5 sell for 10 and spend 3-4bags on it and make a return.

go in at 2.5k. but get a price out of them first. Best tactic.

[SCOTT325SE]

well the engines are tough, if it's not rotton you could buy it for 5 sell for 10 and spend 3-4bags on it and make a return.

go in at 2.5k. but get a price out of them first. Best tactic.

I dont think its rotten tbh mate. I took a look under it and it APPEARS to be reasonably sound.
I'm gonna get a price off him first yea... either that or offer him a bag and see how much he swears at me.

and then go from there.

[Simon13]

he can only say no so what you waiting for. You know it frags to 5 bags and you won't be paying that. Your not interested in a bent ticket, just the car on a trailer and some bangers and mash changing hands luvely jubbly!

[SilverShadow]

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I will buy anything i can make a profit out of.

A tidy M3 cab is 10k+ in the UK.

Any dog that is complete and will drag itself down the road is 5k+ .

Any sound albeit rough/wrong M3 will frag to 5k .

Lots of options, lots of ways to make an eric. Obviously the price offered / paid should be a reflection of the turds condition / story /history.
I haven't seen the car so can't say exactly what i think it is worth but i'd like to be a buyer at the right price

Pete stop wasting your time posting on the zone and finish the C2 Penis that your working on and get a chance to look at me car

[pacerpete]

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I will buy anything i can make a profit out of.

A tidy M3 cab is 10k+ in the UK.

Any dog that is complete and will drag itself down the road is 5k+ .

Any sound albeit rough/wrong M3 will frag to 5k .

Lots of options, lots of ways to make an eric. Obviously the price offered / paid should be a reflection of the turds condition / story /history.
I haven't seen the car so can't say exactly what i think it is worth but i'd like to be a buyer at the right price

Pete stop wasting your time posting on the zone and finish the C2 Penis that your working on and get a chance to look at me car

Come on, its 10.55, even the wicked need a rest !

[Rosc0PColtrane]

Joseph Fritzl never rested.

[pacerpete]

Joseph Fritzl never rested.

Who said he was wicked ?

[SilverShadow]

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I will buy anything i can make a profit out of.

A tidy M3 cab is 10k+ in the UK.

Any dog that is complete and will drag itself down the road is 5k+ .

Any sound albeit rough/wrong M3 will frag to 5k .

Lots of options, lots of ways to make an eric. Obviously the price offered / paid should be a reflection of the turds condition / story /history.
I haven't seen the car so can't say exactly what i think it is worth but i'd like to be a buyer at the right price

Pete stop wasting your time posting on the zone and finish the C2 Penis that your working on and get a chance to look at me car

Come on, its 10.55, even the wicked need a rest !

No "in foo-foo" 2night?!

[SCOTT325SE]

he can only say no so what you waiting for. You know it frags to 5 bags and you won't be paying that. Your not interested in a bent ticket, just the car on a trailer and some bangers and mash changing hands luvely jubbly!

Well I dont want to get involved with a Hookie motor for a start, even if I'm fragging it and with the Q plate I wasnt sure what it entailed, so wanted to ask some other knowledgables first! I dont have all the dough, but I can get it. No, im not wanting to get involved with bent tickets either.... but making a bit of money would be very nice. Not sure about sausages and mashed potato though

[SCOTT325SE]

Vendor is slow on his price.
Anyone know what one is worth in bits without too much hassle?
Anyone know the value of a reasonable shell on its own? (like that one on ebay the other day)

[e30m3cabrio]

hey scott
Why dont you hpi it.and find out what kind of history its got ie total loss/stolen recoverd .also pop the bonnet and take down the last 7digits it will start eb_ _ _ _ _ the last 3 numbers will tell you what number car it was from the 786 made hope this helps e30m3cabrio

[y8sey]

if you text 83600 put in c t c then a space then the reg it will give you any insurance history.

[SCOTT325SE]

RIGHT!!! Update on the turd (and turd it is)................

The villain in question faked the engine and had an M20 transplanted into it!
He doesnt have the original engine, or ecu, but it is an M3 with 5stud running gear, lsd, proper wings and bumpers etc... just the engine/box/prop (the important and valuable bits then)

So I repeat my original question.............. "whats it worth?"

The guy briefly blurted out £2grand as an asking price. I was hoping for 2.5k with the engine in it.
I know the running gear is £900-1000 worth
M20B25 with box/ecu/ancilliaries etc is £250+
M3 wings are pricey (unsure of actual value)
Doors, bonnet and boot are pretty generic
Interiour isn't THAT bad actually, looking at it in the daylight, about £250-300 worth
Scorpion Exhaust £100
Bumpers and skirts aren't cheap (£500-600 at least for a kit with good paint)
The hood is scrap and the steering wheel is council spec, the alloys are e36 items but the shell is pretty much rust free.

Any thoughts?

[bmwsport]

I'd offer him one bags seem as though the important part (the engine) is missing. You can always increase your price but i wouldn't go any more than 1.5 bags until you make sure you can get the shell properly legal again and get rid of the Q plate issue/if you can. The shell on ebay the other day had no i.d but it still sold for a few hundred quid so maybe you could get rid of the i.d on that one (new scuttle panel) and then re-register/test it like you do with home made kit cars, thats if you can go down that route. Also if you were going to frag the shell make sure the arches ain't rusty or otherwise they won't be worth anything proper

[bmwsport]

Oh bollocks ignore that tripe kit cars are Q plates