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Tue Jul 05, 2005 1:50 pm

Just phoned up a dealer enquiring about safety devices cages, and they confirmed they went bump 2 weeks ago :(

Looking for a multipoint bolt in cage, so who else can i try. I can't find any decent info (diagrams etc) on the OMP cages :(
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ive heard OMP are good... try www.demon-tweeks.co.uk ...
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I've heard mixed things about OMP with regards to ease of fitting etc.

Shame about safety devices! I was gonna buy a cage for the GT6 from them :(
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What about custom cages??? Just been looking on there site, they seem to be good prices. Anyone know what the difference is between plain end tubes and profiled end tubes??
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You could give these people a try http://www.rollcentre.co.uk/

Alternatively I think Sparco make a cage for the E30
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I saw a cage for sale in the parts section but I cant find it now anyone have a link to it
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Cotty180 wrote:I saw a cage for sale in the parts section but I cant find it now anyone have a link to it
Too late already sold, sorry
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:17 pm

bummer :(
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Alternatively I think Sparco make a cage for the E30
I've got a Sparco cage in a Compact and it's 5hite, very poor fitting, we spent as much time modifying/improving it as it would have taken to make one, but we needed the certificate. :evil:

A friend has a Compact with an OMP weld-in cage which is excellent.

Customcages are also good, but more expensive.
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M3Compact wrote:
Alternatively I think Sparco make a cage for the E30
I've got a Sparco cage in a Compact and it's 5hite, very poor fitting, we spent as much time modifying/improving it as it would have taken to make one, but we needed the certificate. :evil:

A friend has a Compact with an OMP weld-in cage which is excellent.

Customcages are also good, but more expensive.
Simon... get some pics up of ure compact...would be great to see it
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 2:46 pm

Karan wrote:
M3Compact wrote:
Alternatively I think Sparco make a cage for the E30
I've got a Sparco cage in a Compact and it's 5hite, very poor fitting, we spent as much time modifying/improving it as it would have taken to make one, but we needed the certificate. :evil:

A friend has a Compact with an OMP weld-in cage which is excellent.

Customcages are also good, but more expensive.
Simon... get some pics up of ure compact...would be great to see it
Mine's just about finished now, oldish pic's...

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This is the OMP caged car. (Lee Sawdon)

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Not E30s, :oops: but they share the same rear end. 8)
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wkd lovely prep there under the car
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austen_e30 wrote:bummer :(
Just clocked your name and thought it ringed a bell then I realised that I used to own an Austin A30

No im not that old before anyone asks if I got it new
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me is liking the handbrake a lot :cool:
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What an earth has happened to safety devices?!?!? I thouhght they were the number one cage makers :mad:
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me is liking the handbrake a lot
:D

Brake Bias adjuster beside the parking brake too. 8)
What an earth has happened to safety devices?!?!? I thouhght they were the number one cage makers
I posted about this last week, I was really shocked, SD have been making cages since I was a young lad. (Long time. :oops: )

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simon what handrake did u use... and where did u get the pipes and fittings from..im a complete novice with the pipin side of brakes etc...

i do know its fitted inline with the rear though

was there one line going back with ures? i think the e30 just has the one brake line going to the rears
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Karan wrote:simon what handrake did u use... and where did u get the pipes and fittings from..im a complete novice with the pipin side of brakes etc...

i do know its fitted inline with the rear though

was there one line going back with ures? i think the e30 just has the one brake line going to the rears
Mine had one line originally.

They've all been replaced and re-routed inside with aeroquip and Goodrich fittings. (Demon Tweeks.)
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 5:50 pm

is the handbrake assembly also from tweeks...... cos it looks like the one in the catalog

if so did u weld it to the side of the tunnel as usually these are placed where the stock handbrake is in a horizontal position :mad:
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Karan wrote:is the handbrake assembly also from tweeks...... cos it looks like the one in the catalog

if so did u weld it to the side of the tunnel as usually these are placed where the stock handbrake is in a horizontal position :mad:
The hydraulic lever came from another car, but it's identical to the DT one. It's fastened to a bracket that's welded to the tunnel, I wanted to keep the standard parking brake and I find them better for leverage if my arm's extended forwards. (More Weetabix required.)

It's important to plumb the bias adjuster in front of the hydraulic lever, if you're using one, otherwise it restricts the lever output too.

Rally Design are cheaper than DT for this sort of stuff. Here.

Handbrake. Here.

Hose and fittings. Here.

Have you considered converting the standard lever to a hydraulic fly off? Cheap, and more convenient/civilised for a road use car.
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yeh ure right i could convert it i guess by whackin a master cylinder in there somehow...

i do like the idea of an upright one though,...that was the whole reason really, as is the fact its right nr the wheel.... where u ahve placed it is where would be ideal for me.... :D when i have some time ill buy the tweeks one and make up a template and get my welder to weld up a bracket which i can bolt to the tunnel and bolt the assembly to

thing is with the e30... the tunnelm is wider i think and maybe it would get in the way of my leg.... but ill have to take a proper look to be sure

also when u do the pipe fittings.... dont u have to flare the ends... but the tool seems pretty pricey LOL any way round this ir would i have to take it somewhere to have done?
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yeh ure right i could convert it i guess by whackin a master cylinder in there somehow...
I've used them positioned behind the handbrake working via a bracket/clevis pin/rod from the top of the stock lever. You can simply take the clevis pin out for 'normal' road use.

Usually you can drill the lever and insert a removable pin for a 'fly off' arrangement.
thing is with the e30... the tunnelm is wider i think and maybe it would get in the way of my leg.... but ill have to take a proper look to be sure
This is an issue for me due to the 5hite Sparco cage, the main hoop is about 4" narrower than it could be which has forced my seat to be mounted further towards the tunnel than would be ideal. The hydraulic lever is a bit of a nuisance, but not as bad as the offset pedals. We can't even modify the clutch pedal because they're plastic in E36s.
also when u do the pipe fittings.... dont u have to flare the ends... but the tool seems pretty pricey LOL any way round this ir would i have to take it somewhere to have done?
You don't need a special tool for braided fittings. 8)
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:10 pm

cheers for ure ever useful advice Simon!!
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Tue Jul 05, 2005 7:30 pm

Karan,

I have a pipe flaring tool you can borrow if you need one.

Let me know in advance, and I can bring it to Brooklands. It's not something I use very often, so no rush to get it back to me (as long as I get it eventually :lol: )

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ian332isport wrote:Karan,

I have a pipe flaring tool you can borrow if you need one.

Let me know in advance, and I can bring it to Brooklands. It's not something I use very often, so no rush to get it back to me (as long as I get it eventually :lol: )

Cheers,

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cheers for the offer but i cant go brooklands unfortunately as i have an exam nxt week......

this isnt something ill be doing for a few weeks neway :D

cheers again

Karan
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