starting probs

Need technical Q/A then you're in the right place

Moderator: martauto

User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:21 am

That is word for word what I was going to post - No one can know that little about engines!
jaymo
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat May 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Helston Cornwall and Welwyn Garden City Hertfordshire

Sun Jul 03, 2005 11:40 am

sorry guys, its just happened to me a few times on various cars and i know its happened to others and thats always cured it.
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:43 pm

jaymo wrote:sorry guys, its just happened to me a few times on various cars and i know its happened to others and thats always cured it.
Distributor cap can be the cause of poor running and of not starting, but in no way is going to stop the engine turning over on the key!
tylerma
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5790
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Dagenham, Essex
Contact:

Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:45 pm

hey guys thanks for the suggestions

gonna start with the inhibitor switch that Brian mentioned

being an auto it seems like the best place to start
cheers Brian
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Jul 03, 2005 2:54 pm

Try the diagnostic socket tests first. If the lamp doen't light, then look at the inhibitor switch. (There's a relay associated with the inhibitor switch as well)
tylerma
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Engaged to the E30 Zone
Posts: 5790
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Dagenham, Essex
Contact:

Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:01 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:Try the diagnostic socket tests first. If the lamp doen't light, then look at the inhibitor switch. (There's a relay associated with the inhibitor switch as well)
do i try this when the problem occurs?
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:32 pm

tylerma wrote:
Brianmoooore wrote:Try the diagnostic socket tests first. If the lamp doen't light, then look at the inhibitor switch. (There's a relay associated with the inhibitor switch as well)
do i try this when the problem occurs?
Yes, but it wouldn't hurt to practice first, so you know what should happen.
jaymo
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat May 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Helston Cornwall and Welwyn Garden City Hertfordshire

Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:42 pm

Brianmoooore wrote:
jaymo wrote:sorry guys, its just happened to me a few times on various cars and i know its happened to others and thats always cured it.
Distributor cap can be the cause of poor running and of not starting, but in no way is going to stop the engine turning over on the key!
It will if the connection it has stopped on has corroded over and thus not providing power to the ht lead. This system is connected thro the ecu to the starter system.
Martinaston
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3749
Joined: Mon Mar 14, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: London

Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:50 pm

jaymo go back to bed mate.
jaymo
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat May 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Helston Cornwall and Welwyn Garden City Hertfordshire

Sun Jul 03, 2005 3:52 pm

no need for that mate. I was wrong. sorry.
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Sun Jul 03, 2005 10:27 pm

Jaymo, the starter circuit is a fairly simple one - switch, piece of wire, couple of plugs and sockets, starter motor - complicated slightly on an auto by a second switch.
The ECU on an E30 can stop the engine starting, but it has no control whatsoever on the starter motor circuit. This applies to all BMWs up to the introduction of the EWS immobilizer system.
The starter motor circuit would still work if the car were at the bottom of a lake.
stanley
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 18
Joined: Tue Apr 19, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: waterford, ireland

Mon Jul 04, 2005 1:02 am

i'd say its the starter motor solinoid when the solinoid gets hot from driving the brushes in contact with the rotar get glased over and don't conduct hence ign lights on but the engine not turning over, try changing the brushes there cheep and faily easy to fit
User avatar
Brianmoooore
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 49358
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm

Mon Jul 04, 2005 8:58 am

stanley wrote:i'd say its the starter motor solinoid when the solinoid gets hot from driving the brushes in contact with the rotar get glased over and don't conduct hence ign lights on but the engine not turning over, try changing the brushes there cheep and faily easy to fit
OP says no reaction whatsoever when key is turned to start.
The solenoid would still engage the bendix even with worn brushes.
jaymo
E30 Zone Newbie
E30 Zone Newbie
Posts: 34
Joined: Sat May 28, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: Helston Cornwall and Welwyn Garden City Hertfordshire

Mon Jul 04, 2005 10:59 pm

thnks Brian, I learn something new every day:)
johnono
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 4677
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: land of the vikings

Tue Jul 05, 2005 12:10 am

Demlotcrew wrote:petrol hoses which are split over the injector rail?

A
ive noticed a little shiney patch just here on mine, and ive always had delays on starting from cold.. could this be the prob?
Post Reply