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k9
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:02 am

Hi I have a problem with my touring 325i, occasionally the central locking will pack up, when this happens generally the car will not start? The ignition lights on the dashboard will come on and the electrics will work, for example the lights, window, sunroof etc... But the car will not even attempt to turn over? No effort whatsoever from the starter motor or ignition?
Then if I give the doors a good slam and lock the car the central locking will come back and I can then open the car and the car will fire up no problems?
I do have an old alarm, but it does not appear to work, was wondering if that has some sort of dodgy old immibiliser? Or I have read about a 'bad earth connection' in the forum for similar problems. Any ideas?
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:33 am

I would check the tightness of your battery terminals etc, check all the wires coming off the terminal blocks.
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 8:27 am

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Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:47 pm

Checked the battery and related terminals etc.. seems okay? Any idea where the earth should be? Does anyone have an earth from the battery negative side to the car chassis or such like?
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:55 pm

u mean like this

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there is also 1 from lump to chassis n/s/f
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Fri Jul 01, 2005 7:59 pm

There is one from o/s/f aswell, you need at least two to get rid of un-wanted static
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yeah said that up there
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Sat Jul 02, 2005 12:27 am

cheers

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Sat Jul 02, 2005 11:01 am

If your headlamps work OK when the fault is present, then it's nothing to do with battery earth straps.
You say that the ignition light comes on and there is no effort at all from the starter motor or ignition.
If the starter motor does nothing, then what makes you think you have no ignition?
The engine body earth strap is a remote possibility, but in intermittant cases like this it would normally identify itself by the smoke and sparks. Also, there is a parallel earth path on cars with an oil level sensor, which will severly damage the whole engine loom if the earth strap is faulty.
The next time it happens, switch the ignition on, make sure the car is out of gear, remove the cover on the diagnostic connector (front left of engine), and with a short piece of wire, connect together pins 11 and 14.
This should engage the starter motor,the same as tiurning the key to position 3.
Difficul to see any connection between your locking fault (if things like lights and hazard lights work when the fault is present) and the no start problem, but slamming the door could well cure both of them.
On the information you've given, I would say your locking problem is down to corrosion in the driver's door pillar socket (do search on red/black wire) and the no crank could well be the ignition switch.
When tracing electrical faults, it is important to test things logically, and not to get involved with random part swapping, as you disturb connections, and can end up with multiple faults, often with similar symptoms, which doen't help the diagnostic process.
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Tue Jul 12, 2005 10:03 pm

Thanks for this info

K
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