servo relocation plates

[Karan]

who was making these and selling them as i need one as i want to go back to a stock e30 servo, also how much do they move the setup by?

many thanks

Karan

[suzie650]

IIRC it was old_skool who did them for a few people. He certainly is the one who made the first ones on this forum as far as I know. Might be worth a PM?
I think he still uses a smaller servo though.
HTH
Seb

[oze30]

Karan, Dameon did these. From memory it won't fit the stock servo as above. what's wrong with the setup?

[Jhonno]

I am running a 25mm audi master cyl, and tiny servo and I love the brakes

[Karan]

ok i'll give it a go with the little servo then...

[oze30]

go for no servo and 4 pots (What I'm heading towards.. only I can't get the bloody things to fit behind my wheels, unless they go e36 offset!

[Karan]

im sticking to my e30 m3 brakes all round for a while yet... just a road car anyway

[Brianmoooore]

AFAIK, I was the first one to relocate the standard servo, using plates either side of the bulkhead, and a modified E34 pullrod. I did this on my first M50 conversion, shortly before I joined the zone.
They're not exactly difficult to make up - just a couple of rectangular steel plates, 125mm X 100mm, with a 65mm hole, 50mm from one end, and four 8.5mm holes.

[suzie650]

AFAIK, I was the first one to relocate the standard servo, using plates either side of the bulkhead, and a modified E34 pullrod. I did this on my first M50 conversion, shortly before I joined the zone.
They're not exactly difficult to make up - just a couple of rectangular steel plates, 125mm X 100mm, with a 65mm hole, 50mm from one end, and four 8.5mm holes.

Hence the "as far as I know". Give back to Cesar...
Sorry Brian!

[suzie650]

@oze30, what size masters do you have on the Tilton assembly? I'm pretty sure they can be set-up to run well without servo...

[oze30]

I'm runnin gtwin.75s on stock M3 stuff. No servo.. I can stop, but I scare myself sometimes as I don't stop quick enough in an emergency. Racing style.. yeah.. but not eberyday stuff. The problem is there's a lot of slop in the linkage setup I'm using, so one option is a floor mount pedal box-more adjustability and no slop, or servo assist vi remote.. which again would be fun to fit in, as there's no where to put 2 of them (I don't know if you can run one servo on the front with disc rears.

Sorry for the OT karan!

[jaistanley]

I've combined a relocated smaller golf MK2 servo with a 25mm Audi master cylinder in mine in preparation for an S50 plenum..



Dan's servo is TINY but he seems to think the brakes are fine (I haven't driven it yet, but I do like a firm pedal). It's VERY close to the plenum (I think the end of the M/C touches the S50 boot thingus). I personally prefer moving the servo over (despite the extra effort). I have drawings of the plates that Dameon sent me over, and pictures of my internal bracket and rod being modified if you need them.

[suzie650]

If you were able to reduce the slop and drop the size of the masters, that would give you more mechanical advantage. I take it your pedal is pretty much solid apart for the linkage slop? Otherwise, overhung pedal box should work as well, shouldn't it? And nicer to fit than floor mount...

sorry for the O/T

[Jhonno]

Dan's servo is TINY but he seems to think the brakes are fine (I haven't driven it yet, but I do like a firm pedal). It's VERY close to the plenum (I think the end of the M/C touches the S50 boot thingus).

if you like it firm, you will love mine.. The servo has 'plenty' of room with the plenum, but the mc does touch the inlet elbow, nothing drastic

I do really like how mine feels though, and it doesnt feel underbraked imo, but them im hardly dainty

[Reeeedish]

Sorry to drag an old thread up, but need some clarification on master cylinders.

Most people are looking for the 'ZV25' Audi master cylinder right?
And is that because it's better if your running bigger brakes?

I have standard size discs (but Pagid RS-29 pads), would I be alright to use the standard 23.81mm Audi master cylinder?

Cheers
James

[tomson]

The 25ZV M/C (larger than stock E30) is to compensate for the smaller servo on standard brakes from what I've read James.......

The Audi breaker in Briz, round the corner from Whitehouse have them but they were very expensive when I enquired mate!

I don't know how good your 23.81 M/C would be, might be ok as your using the 16v GTi servo which is bigger than the preferred 1.3 servo......

Ian332isport is the man to PM I would think

Tom

[Jhonno]

the smaller master cylinder will mean more travel compared to the 25mm for less effot.. the 25mm will be stiffer and have less travel but harder to press to stop the car (if that makes ANY sense..)