What engine...

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:43 pm

I want to build a car to take across to Germany for a few laps of the ring.

Just wondered what engine you would recommend for the job, I've been into my old school escorts in the past so was thinking a Cosworth turbo route as I'm a bit niave when it comes to tuning BM engines.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

Thanks

Tom

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:47 pm

cosworth turbo is a great route to take....

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 1:48 pm

Your not local! Oh yes you are. Welcome to the site mate.

Why not put the cossie in if you can do it yourself!? Wouldn't be the first either and would sure give more power than any N/A tuned BM engine that you can get in an e30 standard for decent money.

Depends on budget I guess.

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:14 pm

Not a little biased there then Fuzzy! Did you have any issues with installing the engine, I know the wiring is a headache, but in terms of manifolds, mounting etc? Are you running a T5 box to the original axle and BM diff?

Thanks march....yeah would be carrying out the work myself, all of it fingers crossed! I havent got a specific budget but would pay circa £1500 for the right engine.

What are e36 m3 engine (S50 i think!) conversions?

Cheers

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:16 pm

What are e36 m3 engine (S50 i think!) conversions?

Significantly beyond your budget.

I'd be spending money on brakes, suspension, tyres, cage etc etc before increasing power.

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:16 pm

S50 conversion, even doing it on your own will owe you about £5k before you are done.

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:17 pm

you wouldn't get an S50 on budget mate, let alone get it in.

What E30 have you got by the way? Where abouts are you based?

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:23 pm

Std 325 or M3 engine will do fine

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 2:28 pm

Bloody hell....not cheap, so I'll scrap that idea then!!

Just got a 325 rolling shell at the moment, it's solid but the the paint is scruffy but that doesnt bother me! But if something better comes up I'd consider it - cheaper than a respray!!

The £1500 budget would only be for the engine...I'd obviously spend money on suspension, brakes, cage etc

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:22 pm

RSlut wrote:Not a little biased there then Fuzzy! Did you have any issues with installing the engine, I know the wiring is a headache, but in terms of manifolds, mounting etc? Are you running a T5 box to the original axle and BM diff?

Thanks march....yeah would be carrying out the work myself, all of it fingers crossed! I havent got a specific budget but would pay circa £1500 for the right engine.

What are e36 m3 engine (S50 i think!) conversions?

Cheers

cusom mountings for the engine and t5 box, custom prop and the axles as standard mtech cars and with an e30 3.91 lsd. 4wd manifold on 2wd engine to clear the inner wing. custom alloy sump reshaped to clear the front crossmember with the deep part at the front . oil dipstick relocated to front of engine as well obviously. front chassis legs cut, reshaped and welded to allow the rad and cooler to fit. thats the main problems that i can think of atm.
your budget of £1500 isnt gong to cover it i wouldnt think.

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:32 pm

Will £1500 even buy a Pinto turbo?

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:39 pm

Jon_Bmw wrote:Will £1500 even buy a Pinto turbo?

yes, but its likely it will need a rebuild.

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:06 pm

Cheers Fuzzy that's great tech' knowledge.

A friend of mine has a written off saphire cosworth (rear end) with a recently rebuilt engine, was running a 330bhp setup and i can have it for £1500.

Can fabricate most of the parts needed myself hopefully. But obviously I know budgets are usually set and then exceeded!

Post Sat Jul 19, 2008 4:12 pm

RSlut wrote:Cheers Fuzzy that's great tech' knowledge.

A friend of mine has a written off saphire cosworth (rear end) with a recently rebuilt engine, was running a 330bhp setup and i can have it for £1500.

Can fabricate most of the parts needed myself hopefully. But obviously I know budgets are usually set and then exceeded!

i didnt do the work personally on mine , im a joiner, labour on its own cost me £2600

but i know all the details and problems encountered by the garage that did it for me. if you can get that rebuilt engine for £1.5G then theres no reason to not do it. whats the spec of the engine? greens and stage 3 obviously but t3 or t34 etc?

Post Sun Jul 20, 2008 12:19 am

It's running a t34, greens, -31 actuator, 3 bar map sensor, rs500 intercooler etc so should be good for the power when set up properly.

What kind of power can you safely run through a standard sport axle and diff?

Fuzzy are you running std half shafts?

Post Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:41 pm

The diffs are safe up to 400bhp after this they don't last that long.

Post Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:13 pm

Thanks mate

Post Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:19 pm

RSlut wrote:It's running a t34, greens, -31 actuator, 3 bar map sensor, rs500 intercooler etc so should be good for the power when set up properly.

What kind of power can you safely run through a standard sport axle and diff?

Fuzzy are you running std half shafts?

yes, standard half shafts and an e30 3.91 lsd. im sorting some diff mounting issues atm after splitting the mounting plate.

Post Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:56 am

fuzzy wrote:
RSlut wrote:It's running a t34, greens, -31 actuator, 3 bar map sensor, rs500 intercooler etc so should be good for the power when set up properly.

What kind of power can you safely run through a standard sport axle and diff?

Fuzzy are you running std half shafts?
yes, standard half shafts and an e30 3.91 lsd. im sorting some diff mounting issues atm after splitting the mounting plate.

Cheers Fuzzy - just out of interest have you ran your car over the 1/4 mile...if so what times did you achieve?