Delocking an E30

[Andy325i]

Does anyone know if it is possible to delock an E30 and keep the deadlocks working?

Any ideas greatfully received


Andy

[bootyman]

The only way i can see it working is by de-locking it and using you alarm to operate the central locking. You'll just have to make sure you dont get a flat battery or you'll be in trouble

[Karan]

i have this on mine and it looks sweet and works fine.....

i still have stock lock on boot and my battery is in the boot so its no big deal..... only prob is if ure central locking packs in.....

[Borderbmw]

As far as i know you wont be able to deadlock with remote locking as you cant activate the second action,but possibly if you could link a second channel to the locking you may be able,but as bootyman says if you get a flat battery and its deadlocked ...............

[320Touring]

could you not replace the central locking with a solenoid system (thus totally removing the troublesome control unit and locks?!)

I know there are several solenoid kits available for VW beetles and golfs, could prob be altered to suit...

what Karan says is a good idea-keeping the lock on teh boot so you can get to the battery

failing that just filler the locks

[Andy325i]

i have this on mine and it looks sweet and works fine.....

i still have stock lock on boot and my battery is in the boot so its no big deal..... only prob is if ure central locking packs in.....

Good idea, but I have found an odd one lol A mate I know with a totally standard 325i, doesn't use it that much at all, so battery is always flat on it. When you try to open the boot with the key you cant (it just won't turn)

Open the doors with the key no problem and apply power to the +ve connector under the bonnet, wait a few secs and then you can operate the boot lock as normal. Strange or how they all are?

[placey]

andy

i've de-locked mine and asked the very same question about deadlocks of many people as i wanted to keep them. using a solenoid is a viable option - so is using a capacitor to trigger the deadlocks a second or two after the main locks are activated.

i decided against acticating deadlocks in case of flat battery problems, especially as my battery is under the bonnet and not in the boot. the fact that the doors no longer have lock barrels accesible makes it harder for theives to gain unforced entry - in theory at least.

you may decide to rig up some method for entry should your alrm fob or battery power fail - suggestions might include practising slim jim entry technique (not very difficult to master, depressingly) or perhaps rigging a hidden bonnet/boot release cable under the car so that only you know where it is. it's also worth considering adding an alternate battery charge point - easy if you have a bit of an install already.

in terms of security i'm a big believer in the physical deterrent - buying a disklok and useing it every time you leave the car without fail not only makes the car significantly more difficult to steal it will also put off any chancer sufficiently to move onto the next car which is an easier target.

even deadlocks don't prevent the dreaded brick through the window technique, but disklok might just prevent it happening.

paul

[Andy325i]

Some good stuff there Paul

Have thought about the disc locks, 2 mates have them, very good.

How much are they now?

Does anyone have any good advice on trackers etc? prices?

[smit325is]

I have de-locked my and its grand got a clifford fitted and if the battery goes flat just open the boot with the key and jump it. looks very well to .

[placey]

andy

i think that the disklok has gone up to Ԛ£80 now from halfrauds.

i've thought about trackers but the annual fee is too much for me, running cars and bikes is too expensive already without adding more subscriptions.

what appeals to me is a card system (pioneered by mercedes??) whereby the car is immobilised unless the card is within a certain distance of the sensor. this would make theft difficult if you're not about and car-jackers would find that the car cuts out on them once they're 50 yards or so down the road.... i beieve that some alarm companies offer this now.

if i had this fitted it still use the disklok though.

an alternative to the disklok is the removable steering wheel. daryl(zim) has one in his (stunning) m3. it comes off in a second and is less cumbersome than the disklok. it cannot be used for factory steering wheels however which puts me off.

paul

[Brenner5]

andy

i've de-locked mine and asked the very same question about deadlocks of many people as i wanted to keep them. using a solenoid is a viable option - so is using a capacitor to trigger the deadlocks a second or two after the main locks are activated.

paul

can you explain more about this please??

how would the capacitor activate thedeadlocks and what type of equipment will be needed to do this..

i am thinking of de-locking mine but want the deadlocks enabled ..

[stevo]

i heard tip for de-locking, for under bonnet battery's run 2 wires from the battery to the front bumper, tucked up inside so that if the battery goes flat you can connect another one up and give it enough power to unlock it

[Brenner5]

i heard tip for de-locking, for under bonnet battery's run 2 wires from the battery to the front bumper, tucked up inside so that if the battery goes flat you can connect another one up and give it enough power to unlock it

thas a good idea esp if the boot lock messes up on you too because mine has the batteryin the back (like all 325i's) so a wire underneath the back bumper would be ok as back up

good thinking

[mrLEE30]

Flat battery should not be a problem as it is easy to open the bonnet with a screwdriver through front grille. Even if battery in the back the main power (+) lead will run through to somewhere near the fuse box, so can get jump leads on this. PM if anyone wants to know how to open bonnet, first time E30 users need not apply! minimum 150 posts!

mrlee

[placey]

brenner

unfortunately i don't know enough about e30 electrics to explain a great deal more...

i know that the lock electrics are tucked down below the speaker aperture in the front footwells. also that the passengers side door is deadlocked via the drivers side key barrel - hence this must be an electric signal trigger. if i'd decided to go this route i'd have placed a meter on various wires and looked for a pulse when the deadlocks were activated, hence i'd know which wire triggered them. i'd have then gone through my local bmw dealers and obtained a drivers door deadlock trigger mechanism from a left hand drive car and fitted it to the drivers door. a suitable capacitor could then be fitted to the central locking trigger wire to activate the deadlocks after a short delay - say about 1 second.

i'd need a functional car to experiment on that wouldn't mind a bit of damage/repair to it's wiring loom, i could then figure it out. i didn't want to damage the loom in mine - it's too good!

helpful?

paul

[BrAdZ]

mine is being de-locked, I have just had an alarm that has an orange simcard on it and it will ring me iff the alarm is triggerd,I decided not to bother with the deadlocks, As i have a cab so they could easly just cut through the roof, so a deadlock wont really help,

But i dont really tend to leave the car in places that are not secure, its parked in the garage 5 days a week, and when i do park it somewhere i make sure its secure,

Also dont leave thinks on display...... Take them with you or deadlock them in the boot, and dont leave your Wheel key in the glovebox like everyone does and the Facia off your headunit under the seat!

[Brenner5]

brenner

unfortunately i don't know enough about e30 electrics to explain a great deal more...

i know that the lock electrics are tucked down below the speaker aperture in the front footwells. also that the passengers side door is deadlocked via the drivers side key barrel - hence this must be an electric signal trigger. if i'd decided to go this route i'd have placed a meter on various wires and looked for a pulse when the deadlocks were activated, hence i'd know which wire triggered them. i'd have then gone through my local bmw dealers and obtained a drivers door deadlock trigger mechanism from a left hand drive car and fitted it to the drivers door. a suitable capacitor could then be fitted to the central locking trigger wire to activate the deadlocks after a short delay - say about 1 second.

i'd need a functional car to experiment on that wouldn't mind a bit of damage/repair to it's wiring loom, i could then figure it out. i didn't want to damage the loom in mine - it's too good!

helpful?

paul

seems like a bit of a job

i am only really interested in deadlocking the boot as thats where my install will be..

if i delock the car, the deadlocks won't work and the boot could be opened.

but once the boot is closed it won't matter if it is deadlocked or not as it is very hard to break into it ???

[dazleeds]

i used to have a deadlock bolt fitted in an e30 near the end of the bootlid that locked into the rear wing Daz

[Brenner5]

i used to have a deadlock bolt fitted in an e30 near the end of the bootlid that locked into the rear wing Daz

how did that work?

bolted in the rear wing?

did that mean that you used the key to deadlock the bootlid and then put the alarm on?

please elaborate..

[dazleeds]

where the i badge is on your boot and the same place on other end each side had a mini barrell with a long multilok type key when you locked them they went inside the rear qtr panels

so you had everything else on remote and the boot with remote and the 2 manual locks

very secure as had big sounds back then Daz

[Brenner5]

where the i badge is on your boot and the same place on other end each side had a mini barrell with a long multilok type key when you locked them they went inside the rear qtr panels

so you had everything else on remote and the boot with remote and the 2 manual locks

very secure as had big sounds back then Daz

i am doing the extra security for my install

you got any pics ??

where can i get the locks from??

sounds like a good idea but i don't think it will look that nice from the back

[dazleeds]

this was about 10years ago mate so no pics sadly and dnt know how much they would cost but they shouldnt be too much
yes they are noticeable on the boot but you can get some very small barrell type locks and with black keyhole covers they wouldnt stand out on your car i wouldnt think

heres a thort for ya put them in the top of the bootlid and hide them in the spoiler somehow??

reckon best place to find em would be a home security type shop Daz

[Brenner5]

this was about 10years ago mate so no pics sadly and dnt know how much they would cost but they shouldnt be too much
yes they are noticeable on the boot but you can get some very small barrell type locks and with black keyhole covers they wouldnt stand out on your car i wouldnt think

heres a thort for ya put them in the top of the bootlid and hide them in the spoiler somehow??

reckon best place to find em would be a home security type shop Daz

thanks for the idea mate

i will definetly be doing something to secure the boot..

will post up whatever i do

[dazleeds]

nice one mate

i like the idea of hiding em in the ends of the spoiler and it would be so easy as well if done there good luck mate

[placey]

brenner

the good news for you is that the boot deadlock is operable from the boot key barrel. once you've de-locked your doors the boot can be independently deadlocked using the door key in the boot lock. i keep my boot deadlocked always.

paul

[Brenner5]

yeah, i was checking the boot today and realised that it is separate from the rest of the doors.. which is good news