What is cool for the E30? - LHD or RHD ?
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Rearwheel_nick
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er what? rhd if your in this country unless its an M3 or lhd if you are in a country that drives on the right.
cool doesnt really apply to purposefully having the steering wheel on the wrong side. M3 excluded cos thats only how they came.
cool doesnt really apply to purposefully having the steering wheel on the wrong side. M3 excluded cos thats only how they came.
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LHD is cooler as you get closer to the 'skirt' you're posing for
not to mention the fact that the brakes dont feel as dead
moreover it makes driving on the continent a breeze
not to mention the fact that the brakes dont feel as dead
moreover it makes driving on the continent a breeze
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I've got to say I feel more comfortable driving on the left hand side of the car than I do on the Rhside, not really sure why, but it just feels right!

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LHD is way better and cooler
more room for turbo manifold and of course not 1 but 2 turbo's
better pedal feeling when braking
more goodies like manifolds to put on without any trouble
more room for turbo manifold and of course not 1 but 2 turbo's
better pedal feeling when braking
more goodies like manifolds to put on without any trouble

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Ditto! This week for some reason, despite not having driven the M3 since last Saturday, only the other car, a Safira (company car not my choiceSimon wrote:I've got to say I feel more comfortable driving on the left hand side of the car than I do on the Rhside, not really sure why, but it just feels right!
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Nostrils wrote:Ditto! This week for some reason, despite not having driven the M3 since last Saturday, only the other car, a Safira (company car not my choiceSimon wrote:I've got to say I feel more comfortable driving on the left hand side of the car than I do on the Rhside, not really sure why, but it just feels right!) I have instinctively gone to change gear with the right hand....only its a door!!
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Yep, not once have I got in the M3 and hit the door card, but I do it regular in the touring!

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it's not cool
what if you are driving your gran down the shops?
anyone looking will think you are being driven by your gran.
Any idea that the french came up with is decidedly uncool - name a cool french invention..? (cool, not croissants or any other bread-related niceness)
french cars... cool?
french girls that don't shave - cool?
no
what if you are driving your gran down the shops?
anyone looking will think you are being driven by your gran.
Any idea that the french came up with is decidedly uncool - name a cool french invention..? (cool, not croissants or any other bread-related niceness)
french cars... cool?
french girls that don't shave - cool?
no
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lhd is ok if your live abroad but in the uk 99% drive rhd so i`ll stick with rhd thanks
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I feel a bit safer in LHD for some reason. Maybe being further away from oncoming traffic or something..! Seen a couple of head on crashes where the drivers side (RHD) was crushed and the passenger side was fine, since they tend to be corner to corner rather than directly head on.
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Ive still never driven a LHD car. I want an E30 M3 though so I guess I better drive one soon to see if I like it or not!
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It doesn't take long to get used to. Changing gear with your right hand and a dogleg 'box however...
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orangecurry wrote:Any idea that the french came up with is decidedly uncool - name a cool french invention..?
french cars... cool?
One word for you my man.................................................

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Only voted LHD because I live in Denmark ... but there is something far better with having the gearstick in your right hand than the left .... don't ask me why but it just is ........
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GDBN wrote:Only voted LHD because I live in Denmark ... but there is something far better with having the gearstick in your right hand than the left .... don't ask me why but it just is ........
look at this pic and you'll know why


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So mate ... what do you do with the right hand ?????
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change gears
going faster and slower
and I am right handed so I do praticly everything with it
and I am right handed so I do praticly everything with it

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u lot r funny man
lhd for me!! gotta luv it, the 1st to 2nd throw feels "right" in a lefty if u know what i mean
GDBN,. howws it goin mate, im in Odense
lhd for me!! gotta luv it, the 1st to 2nd throw feels "right" in a lefty if u know what i mean
GDBN,. howws it goin mate, im in Odense
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lhd ! cus im left handed and much prefer it on the left very noval... 

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errrrrrrrrrrr that'll be an Italian then, he happened to set up business in FranceWidge wrote:orangecurry wrote:Any idea that the french came up with is decidedly uncool - name a cool french invention..?
french cars... cool?
One word for you my man.................................................
He got to race in the French blue because the French can't hack it - uncool
sheesh
next attempt at something that is cool and French?
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The man may be Italian but the company was French.
He set up shop in France as it was where he had been to engineering collage.
He set up shop in France as it was where he had been to engineering collage.
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the company is the man - he designed and built all the classics; he's Italian - where he set up shop is irrelevant.
Any modern success is owed completely to his design stylee.
End of story.
And who owns Bugatti now? VW, that well known francophile.
C'mon someone must know of a French idea/thing that is cool?
Any modern success is owed completely to his design stylee.
End of story.
And who owns Bugatti now? VW, that well known francophile.
C'mon someone must know of a French idea/thing that is cool?
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Citroen DS-one of the alltime coolest looking carsorangecurry wrote:the company is the man - he designed and built all the classics; he's Italian - where he set up shop is irrelevant.
Any modern success is owed completely to his design stylee.
End of story.
And who owns Bugatti now? VW, that well known francophile.
C'mon someone must know of a French idea/thing that is cool?
Citroen 2cv-good take on the 'car for the masses' theory and a great ride quality
Renault Alpine
Champagne
TGV train
Eiffel (sp) tower
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may not be supercool nowdays but back then it was a sweet piece of kit
gotta admit theyre aint much cool in france tho lol Daz
may not be supercool nowdays but back then it was a sweet piece of kit
gotta admit theyre aint much cool in france tho lol Daz
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RHD
If your in a LHD car then overtaking will be harder. I drove a RHD car in France and had to rely on my passenger to let me know when the road was clear.
Paying tolls (Dartford Tunnel) and using ticket machines must be a royal pain in the bum with LHD
If your in a LHD car then overtaking will be harder. I drove a RHD car in France and had to rely on my passenger to let me know when the road was clear.
Paying tolls (Dartford Tunnel) and using ticket machines must be a royal pain in the bum with LHD
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I agree the DS was a huge leap forward in technology and kit on a family car, and the 2cv is top funky fun, but the first car for the masses is the Model-T Ford, and the second is the Beetle; Volkswagen again, and Hitler in particular.Citroen DS-one of the alltime coolest looking cars![]()
Citroen 2cv-good take on the 'car for the masses' theory and a great ride quality
Renault Alpine
Champagne
TGV train
Eiffel (sp) tower
The Alpine is different and good, but it's still a Renault - same goes for the 5 Turbo; serious fun but only a development of someone elses ideas.
Champagne - not really; wasn't it just an accident that a batch of wine from that region became fizzy when being shipped over to England? So I don't think you can claim something is French cool if it was by accident.
TGV train isn't a french idea - they stole it from the Japanese
Eiffel was french and yes that's a stunning structure... but you could argue that they built the framework and then forgot to put the walls in.
Nope - I have proved that ALL french ideas are poor, including LHD.
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Champagne was invented by Dom Peringnon who was a french monk and discovered that if he fermented wine in the bottle he could make it sparkiling.orangecurry wrote:Champagne - not really; wasn't it just an accident that a batch of wine from that region became fizzy when being shipped over to England? So I don't think you can claim something is French cool if it was by accident.
Eiffel was french and yes that's a stunning structure... but you could argue that they built the framework and then forgot to put the walls in.
And the Eiffel tower was built for the grat Paris Expose (1890 I think) and was later used as an advertising space for Citroen.
And what have you got against Renault anyway?
Foie Gras, Truffels, shooting anything that moves; all great French ideas.
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the DS is just COOL!and its french, sod all to do with technology-on looks alone its amazingorangecurry wrote:I agree the DS was a huge leap forward in technology and kit on a family car, and the 2cv is top funky fun, but the first car for the masses is the Model-T Ford, and the second is the Beetle; Volkswagen again, and Hitler in particular.Citroen DS-one of the alltime coolest looking cars![]()
Citroen 2cv-good take on the 'car for the masses' theory and a great ride quality
Renault Alpine
Champagne
TGV train
Eiffel (sp) tower
The Alpine is different and good, but it's still a Renault - same goes for the 5 Turbo; serious fun but only a development of someone elses ideas.
Champagne - not really; wasn't it just an accident that a batch of wine from that region became fizzy when being shipped over to England? So I don't think you can claim something is French cool if it was by accident.
TGV train isn't a french idea - they stole it from the Japanese
Eiffel was french and yes that's a stunning structure... but you could argue that they built the framework and then forgot to put the walls in.
Nope - I have proved that ALL french ideas are poor, including LHD.
2cv has almost jag-like ride quality from a cheap car!also easy to work on, and full length sunroof
as for champagne-sometimes accidents are cool
does the bullet train have shared bogies?
Eiffel tower-why do buildings have to have walls to be cool?
LHD is not a french Idea
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320Touring wrote: LHD is not a french Idea
Damn it, at least some one is thinking what I am
I could have sworn lefting wasn't a Franco idea.
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LHD is french - when they had the revolution, and did for all the upper class, or was it Napoleon; whichever, they made everyone walk/ride the other way round, just 'cos they could - that's what successful revolutionaries do; pointless gestures.
The reason all normal people walk on the left is because as most people are right-handed, if anyone on the road had a go at you suddenly, it was easier to draw your sword and defend yourself.
The reason all normal people walk on the left is because as most people are right-handed, if anyone on the road had a go at you suddenly, it was easier to draw your sword and defend yourself.
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shooting at everything that moves.... french?
the germans and the americans beat them to that
eating fungus you find on the floor because you've been drinking too much red wine at lunchtime isn't clever
Fois gras? Again mashing up animals internals has been around forever - someone elses idea that they fiddled with
I'm looking for an original idea that the french invented.
Depends how picky you want to get but Perignon did NOT invent sparkling wine - he fiddled about with someone elses idea and made his name from it
http://www.internetwines.com/rws14792.html
the germans and the americans beat them to that
eating fungus you find on the floor because you've been drinking too much red wine at lunchtime isn't clever
Fois gras? Again mashing up animals internals has been around forever - someone elses idea that they fiddled with
I'm looking for an original idea that the french invented.
Depends how picky you want to get but Perignon did NOT invent sparkling wine - he fiddled about with someone elses idea and made his name from it
http://www.internetwines.com/rws14792.html
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Why do the Germans, Spanish, Poles, Italians, Dutch, Belgians, Austrians, and everyone else in Europe drive on the left then, they havent all had revolutions, have they?
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okok the guileteen spellins cak but ya know what i mean
is that french???
is that french???
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ask yourself this-were cars present at the french revolution?orangecurry wrote:LHD is french - when they had the revolution, and did for all the upper class, or was it Napoleon; whichever, they made everyone walk/ride the other way round, just 'cos they could - that's what successful revolutionaries do; pointless gestures.
The reason all normal people walk on the left is because as most people are right-handed, if anyone on the road had a go at you suddenly, it was easier to draw your sword and defend yourself.
maybe the carts were'handed' in terms of drivers?
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