driving habits

[placey]

these get to me:

- not indicating to exit a roundabout on the same road that i'm waiting to join the roundabout on. move that finger so that i can continue my journey.

- flashing somebody to allow them in especially when it means slowing down and i'm behind you - they were waiting there quite happily so let them wait. you had right of way so exercise it.

- flashing somebody in line or out of a junction when i'm filtering on my bike. this is plain bloody dangerous to me and it's commonplace. if you really must flash somebody in check your mirrors carefully first.

- not keeping left on motorways. there's no such thing as a 'slow' or 'fast' lane remember - they are overtaking lanes and if you're not overtaking and in lanes 2 or 3 then you're a crap driver, end of story.

- fog lights on and it's not foggy. there's no excuse - if they're on and it's not foggy then you're not in complete control of the vehicle and you should be made to stand naked in the local town centre for 1 hour each day for a week and banned for driving for 10 years. 15 if you drive a saxo. life for a nova.

- tailgating. i don't know why but it makes me slow down. maybe because that's the official highway code reaction?

- hazard flashers when parked - more often than not one indicator is obscured from view - so it looks like the vehicle is intending to pull out. not good.

so i take it that noone here is ever guilty of any of these. i say this with conviction as you have enough taste to own an e30 and enough brain to contribute to a forum so you've thought about responsible and safe road use yes?

paul

[Davenotouring]

I agree with your comments on the whole.

- flashing somebody in line or out of a junction when i'm filtering on my bike. this is plain bloody dangerous to me and it's commonplace. if you really must flash somebody in check your mirrors carefully first.

This is not good, although you should expect it to happen, because not all road users are as 'on the ball' as you might be.

- not keeping left on motorways. there's no such thing as a 'slow' or 'fast' lane remember - they are overtaking lanes and if you're not overtaking and in lanes 2 or 3 then you're a crap driver, end of story.

This is my real bad pet hate. It really annoys me badly. These people are thick as sh1t and it does my head in. Creates traffic jams. Even if I'm going 100mph, I'll still pull into the inside lane unless I'm overtaking. They are lanes to be used to overtake, not cruise in.

- tailgating. i don't know why but it makes me slow down. maybe because that's the official highway code reaction?

I must admit that I do do this occasionally, but it is normally when someone is sitting in the middle lane, or the BMW lane (!) when I'm wanting to go faster and the inside lane is clear. I am normally ready to take evasive action!

My driving is not perfect, I must admit, but I am normally on the ball and drive more considerately than the average person!

[Ziggy]

That regular clicky noise? It's your indicator. If you're going along in the middle lane of the motorway in your volvo, totally oblivious to everyone else, at least turn the F***ing thing off!

Good list. I'm sure I'll think of more...

[Simon13]

people who drive at 40 in 60 limit roads which are straight!

[Lordschleife]

these get to me:

- not keeping left on motorways. there's no such thing as a 'slow' or 'fast' lane remember - they are overtaking lanes and if you're not overtaking and in lanes 2 or 3 then you're a crap driver, end of story.

That drives me absolutly nuts too - if you drive on the motorway in europe you dont get this problem and they flow so much more freely

[Lordschleife]

people who drive at 40 in 60 limit roads which are straight!

And then after holding you up for ages, continue on at 40 through the built up 30 areas past schools etc

[Ziggy]

And then after holding you up for ages, continue on at 40 through the built up 30 areas past schools etc

I was gonna say exactly the same thing!!!!

[johnono]

people on phones, at junctions that beleive the conversation is that important that we should all wait until they are finished

reverse parking on narrow roads, when its quite obvious they havnԚ´t ever done it before

the "i forgot my indicator on" twat who doesnt know where heԚ´s going anyway

the" iԚ´ll just be a minute" asshole who blocks u in as he gets him/herself their lunch.

old people who look at u like u dont deserve a car and then almost cause a pile-up!

the "speng" who drives slow up to traffic lights and then boots it over the yellow leaving u there to fume

the other "speng" who has all day to clear the green but slows anyway and lets the yellow in

the one that sits through the whole light sequence as heԚ´s still on his phone

im just going to say "car parks" and leave it at that

[SCOTT325SE]

these get to me:

- flashing somebody in line or out of a junction when i'm filtering on my bike. this is plain bloody dangerous to me and it's commonplace. if you really must flash somebody in check your mirrors carefully first.

- fog lights on and it's not foggy. there's no excuse - if they're on and it's not foggy then you're not in complete control of the vehicle and you should be made to stand naked in the local town centre for 1 hour each day for a week and banned for driving for 10 years. 15 if you drive a saxo. life for a nova.

paul

Paul, what do u mean by "filtering" mate, as i know people say that and mean different things. Do u mean carving your way through a queue of cars that are maybe waiting at traffic lights, or do u mean turning off at a junction where the road splits into 2? If its the latter, then i totally agree with you, not only from the bikes point of view, but even if you were in a super-tanker this would be bloody dangerous. If your on about carving your way thru traffic, then shame on you coz that too is bloody dangerous. (im assuming you meant the later of my 2 options)

With regards the fogs..... im not totally with you on that one sorry...... the headlights on my e30 are fcuking shocking!!!!! they barely light up the road at all! My fogs+my normal headlights throw out about as much light as a crap set of xenons! Xenons almost blind you when coming towards you and i think sometimes coppers should take into account what type of headlights you are using before pulling you over to lecture you on the use of fogs...... i use mine to see, not to blind other motorists. I have also adjusted the way my fog lights sit in the brackets - they are now specifically angled DOWN so they dont blind people. They just light up the road, not the hedges.
Agree that modern cars dont need to use fogs though-just old cars with sh1t headlights.

[e30nerd]

Placey - have you been talking to my girlfreind??? In a typical 30 minute journey I moan about drivers doing all those things you listed. When it comes to driving she calls be a 20 year old Victor Meldrew with road rage.

I think I'll print this thread out and keep it in the glove box!!

I've always wanted one of those LED displays that the police have got - then you could educate them.

Scott ref fog lights I can almost see your point - but on wet roads it's a pain for on coming drivers. However that said I have lived in rural areas where curbs are just muddy extensions of the already muddy road - therefore even if you fitted camera flash bulbs you still have greif seeing the road edge. Now I live in the suburbs with very good street lighting and the Saxo boys still insist on using them.

The ones I agree with most are the indicators on roundabouts and middle lane hoggers - it really gets to me. I swear our road system would not be in such a dire state if people used it properly.

If you don't like driving stories stop here!!

Christmas day there was me and two over cars on the road. You guessd it I'm making good progress in the lefthand lane, come up behind a car doing 60, check my mirror - a volvo appraoching from behind, so I indicate and indicate and indicate. I think he actually accelerated next to me instead of pulling over for me. I have to brake to get in behind. He then continues for about 5 miles still in the middle lane (also not at a constant speed with no other traffic for miles around). So I couldn't resist it - I nipped past him - did the ushual righthand to lefthand 3 lane swap - eased off so he came along side me, then matched his speed for the next 3 or 4 miles with me in the left lane and him in the middle. Boy did he wake up quickly when he realised that I was bloking his exit from the motorway and his junction was at the 200 yd marker

[Adammcf]

All the above get on my nerves big time but the worst of all has to be numpties who dont use the correct lanes at roundabouts.
Every day is like an evasive driving exercise as you have to brake hard and swerve all the time on roundabouts due to ***holes drifing out of their lane or simply cutting across the wrong lane completely! It drives me insane and for some reason is ten times worse here in england than it ever was back in NI.

[nwmlarge]

tailgaters are my pet hate

i drive down the a12 every day and it has 6 speed cameras between the start and end of my journey so why tail gate in 5pm traffic you can't go anywhere so i shit em up by dropping a cog and braking hard then flooring it

they shit emselves.

lmao @ "bmw lane" drivers on here.

trust me people on the other side if the fence think the fast lane crew all think they own the road lol.

[Davenotouring]

The BMW lane think is obviously a joke!

I just think it's funny.

However some drivers of newer BMW's really believe it!

[nwmlarge]

lol its always the other drivers aye??

[Davenotouring]

Of course!!

This one of mine is a bit cheeky, but I think if you are willing to drive in the 'fast lane' (I know that's not really what it is called) then you should be willing to put your foot down, not crawl past a lorry at 57mph.



Nevermind! Makes it more fun with hazards anyway.

[Zayyan]

Can't say I agree with what you say about foglights either. The E30 headlights really are awful, so fogs are essential on country roads for being able to see the verges (+they have saved a rabbit or two) and they do help at other times like in town to give that required bit of extra light.

Plus as they face more down and to the sides than forwards they don't dazzle. Xenons on the other hand do. Can't stand the pedantic fcuks in their police Omega with xenons threatening me with a Ԛ£30 fine for foglights!

Especially whenever there's a road closure due to an accident at night and they use those little beacons on the cones with a ridiculously bright blue strobe going off every 2 seconds that leave you blinded

P.S. scott, cheers for bubblewrapping the fogs for me The bulb was gone in the driver's one but I got a replacement out of my old smashed foglight instead so no harm done/fiver spent! I'l consider myself told about sending cash thru the post

[SCOTT325SE]

Zayyan, i had no idea about the bulb mate, im REALLY REALLY sorry about that! Cash in post is not a gr8 idea tbh mate. lol.

E30 headlights are shocking. End of!

[Zayyan]

I had the mechanic change the foglight for me as I messed up the brakes so got it done at the same time.

It was all good fun searching thru the oily parts bin for my old foglight for the bulb when I realised the new 1 didn't work!

But d/w bout it, I'm pretty sure if u'd known u would'v done somethin about it!

[andyp]

being honest, i only norm use indicators when on my bike not so much in a car,i do always use them when a bike is about even if it is the right hand one when i am in the right lane just so the bike can undertake me, {if you dont ride a bike it may not make sence} when driving the touring always use fog lamps as no xenons, I agree with all the rest of what you say, i cant stand lane hoggers they should be BANNED for life its the worse thing apart from cutting someone up or braking cos they have missed the turning or dont no where they are going or on the PHONE and got no idea of what is going on around them. THAT IS ALL I WOULD LIKE TO SAY FOR NOW.


p.s. do i get more points for this being my longest ever post

[Davenotouring]

I always move in to the left for bikers, they normally raise a hand to say thanks.

But then bikers think they're allowed to do stuff other people don't, like cutting in and out of traffic.

I saw a bike approachin from behind, let him past, and then followed him undertaking and overtaking, only where there were gaps, which I know is dodgy and illegal, but whatever. Anyway, he was doing exactly the same and then turned round and shook his head! I wanted to ram him off his fcuking bike the cheeky cnut!!

Also, if a bike approaches from behind going quick and I am in the outside lane and I cannot move in, then I will normally move to the right of the lane so that he can get through the middle, I will drop a quick right indicator to know I'm moving out the way!

You should use indicators on the bike or in the car, it's so annoying when people don't! Wastes time and it's just being polite! You've only got to move one finger!

[johnono]

sometimes i move two

[Davenotouring]

[johnono]

easy geez howzit goin on the clears? im still getting nowhre over here

[Davenotouring]

I'm going to go into the shop on the 5th of Feb to order them.

Hopefully they will be there within a couple of weeks, I will go and pick them up and send a set across the sea to you!

Once they arrive I'll send you a PM with my address for a cheque! And not before they arrive!

Hopefully it will happen as detailed above!

[Jhonno]

Fog lights really annoy me esp rear ones!! The e30 headlights arent shit tho! They are far better than Vauxhall ones! Main beam lights up signs probable around 500m in front! Fogs arent really needed, esp if its wet it dazzles. Rear fogs are the most annoyin tho by far!

Middle lane sitters are another pet hate, I had some guy in an old style range rover look down at me when he was sittin in the middle lane with nothin to overtake so i made the point of doin the 3lane sweep to the inside lane infront of him

Another thing is ppl who pull out into the outside lane and continue @60mph or whatever speed they were doin, had some guy in a new Pug do it to me last week Pulled out, havin waited till i was nearly there and then sat @60 n wouldnt pull back in after!!

[zaust]

No one metioned about driving on a two or three lane carridge way not to busy you are happily doing 70 (80+) no one in front of you, but some decides they arn't going to be over taken by anything. so they dont look pull in front of you at the last second then stay at 68 thinkin you are not quick enough to go past them, Then comes a quick flash for them to move over please. and the git brakes, go's slower or starts waving hands
irraticley. I always seem to find these people. and when they do eventually get passed do you notice they cant look left or right or take a hand off the wheel.? why do they do it ...

[Davenotouring]

i made the point of doin the 3lane sweep to the inside lane infront of him

Loving that mate.

I try the same, works 50% of the time!

Scares them sometimes too which is always good.

[johnono]

thank you sir! sounds top puppy mate! like said, i canԚ´t find a set for love nor money, so this will be a `godsendԚ´

[BMK]

I effin hate lane hoggers...get it all the time on the A13/127

And ya right about the foggies...rear ones that is....

[Davenotouring]

Rear fog lights are more annoying than front, people moan about front ones dazzling you a bit, but as mentioned before Xenons are worse!

Doesn't really bother me that much, I just get on with it! It's the people with front fogs on who don't know they are on that annoy me more!

[billgatese30]

i have to travel over about 14 speed bumps on my way to work and everyone is very content to sit on your arse when you are doing 30 over them and then overtake to do about 32MPH when past and then get onto a 60MPH road that is very clearly indicated as such and will continue to do about 35 MPH. what worse is the fact that when going over the bumps at 30 everyone who waits at a junction assumes you a going slower than a snail in reverse and pulls straight out on you and then has the cheek to give you the v sign... cheeky bstrds [/u]

[placey]

i only meant rear fogs. fronts don't annoy me at all, they're too low down. not sure why rear fogs on saxos and (o)novas annoy me more than other cars. one's not even french.

scott325se - yes i do mean filtering through 'slow moving or stationary traffic' as stated in the highway code. it's my legal right when on a bike and the very reason i left my e30 at home. somebody flashes another vehicle in and neither participant ever look for a filtering bike. let me state at this point i am a responsible rider - i don't carve through speeding traffic or tailgate when on my bike. my legs work well just the way they are and i don't want them modified by a careless driver. i have been known to casually break the mirror off a car as i pass that changes lane and nearly kills me on my bike mind, that's not wholly responsible i spose.

i've thought of another one - people who drive new cars with the third central brake light and sit with their foot on the brake pedal when i'm behind them. i just need their brake lights in my face about as much as they need my boot in their teeth.

mostly i think the road system works well and let's one make a 'hurried' journey with relative safety. it could just be so much better though.....

paul

[E30WEZ]

- fog lights on and it's not foggy. there's no excuse - if they're on and it's not foggy then you're not in complete control of the vehicle and you should be made to stand naked in the local town centre for 1 hour each day for a week and banned for driving for 10 years. 15 if you drive a saxo. life for a nova.

Sorry but i do alot of country lanes at night and i use my fog's alot realy just to help light it up a bit.But no on good lit road's.