Put the kettle on

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:11 pm

Gortour wrote:Can we agree to differ here guys and girls?
This is getting more and more like a slanging match. Please try to get back on topic or I'll lock the thread.
Cheers

this is the topic. a bit of gentle banter never harmed anyone.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:12 pm

steerfromtherear wrote:
Rosc0PColtrane wrote: to mock people who don't drift, saying they don't get any fun from it.

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Where does he say that?

Its a hobby, I dont understand why people would want to go on long walks or visit churches but I dont find ways of telling them they are stupid for doing so.

It's insinuated in the last sentence.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:13 pm

fuzzy wrote:
Gortour wrote:Can we agree to differ here guys and girls?
This is getting more and more like a slanging match. Please try to get back on topic or I'll lock the thread.
Cheers
this is the topic. a bit of gentle banter never harmed anyone.

Its gone beyond banter in to plain stupidity and pig headedness in places.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:14 pm

thats healthy debate then.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:15 pm

No problem with banter guys, it's when it all starts getting personal.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:17 pm

theres no complaints from me .i can take as well as give without taking it personally. its all good so far

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:18 pm

Not getting at any one individual, just play nicely please.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:21 pm

I have to say, I did enjoy watching The Drift Bible. Interesting to see the many ways that cat can be skinned.

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:29 pm

It is pretty informative, especially if you dont understand what drifting is about or want to try it out yourself. Its no replacement for doing it yourself but its defo a good bit of revision before hand.

Tokyo drift on the other hand...

lol

Sat Jun 07, 2008 9:35 pm

I ruled on Need for Speed Underground! NAWZ FTW!

Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:05 am

Rosc0PColtrane wrote:I ruled on Need for Speed Underground! NAWZ FTW!

you hit the nail on the head there , alot of the people that are into the sceance have grown up with NFS underground and The Fast and Furious films, it's part of their child hood which they now love to do now. Same as me and the E30 I grew up admiring all thing to do with them and now I am on my 3rd.

Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:51 pm

How can people who drive 20year old midsize family saloons refer to drifting specifically as "council". e30s are a council estate car!

As for calling drifters gay, sure, there are a load of knobbers who fit big stupid spoilers and big stickers and try and tell everyone they are soooo "drift" y0, but what's wrong with this...

(ignore the wheels I just had them on to get to events).

Good honest e30, being built for the track, to enjoy myself. If I changed the diff to an LSD rather than a welded diff then it would probably be a lot faster than most of the cars on this site, does that impress you all more? Me telling you how big my BHP cock is? I'm sure I have a lot more fun driving mine than those of you sat on here acting old before your time (or actually just being old) moaning about those who have a different hobby to you. Have your opinion sure, and you are welcome to never go to a drift event or never bother watching any of it on youtube etc, and if you don't see much point in it then that's fine, but why try and label people who have a perfectly innocent hobby as chavs or "council" because of this?

Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:30 am

Rosc0PColtrane - I don't think you've prior knowledge of topi to go making that judgement. He's owned a number of cars over the last year or so since I met him at retrorides 07, all of which are thoroughly interesting and definitely cool. And I can assure you, he'd not wimp out on a rally stage! This is him in action:

Thought we weren't getting personal?

Felix79 - whereabouts near Oxford are you? There's quite a few E30's I see round here...

Looks like this topic is finally going to die a death!

Mon Jun 09, 2008 8:46 am

What I still don't understand is why drifting is considered boring, and yet parking in a field looking at near identical cars with Borets/BBS/Apline wheels and MTech parts is considered acceptable?

Seems a bit hypocritical if you ask me.

Mon Jun 09, 2008 1:42 pm

papercutout wrote:

Felix79 - whereabouts near Oxford are you? There's quite a few E30's I see round here...

I live in headington , Oxford is crawling with BMW's thanks to the mini factory

Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:26 pm

Cool, I actually live near Bicester, but if I'm that way I'll look out for an E30 - I normally wave to other E30's anyway...

Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:31 pm

Joshy wrote:What I still don't understand is why drifting is considered boring, and yet parking in a field looking at near identical cars with Borets/BBS/Apline wheels and MTech parts is considered acceptable?

Seems a bit hypocritical if you ask me.

sounds reasonable....

Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:39 pm

e30bmlover wrote:i could turn up and try to talk people out of doing it... ******* up diffs, tyres, drivetrain.... the list goes on. if you need to spin the wheels of you car to make yourself feel like a man there is something seriously wrong in your life.

I never understand this kind of point of view, why would you care? If it isn't being done to your car what does it matter? Your not footing the bill!

Why presume that if someone is spinning the wheels its to make them selves feel like a man??

Although I haven't done any yet, drifting appeals to me like many others as its a cheap form of motorsport

Mon Jun 09, 2008 2:46 pm

papercutout wrote:Cool, I actually live near Bicester, but if I'm that way I'll look out for an E30 - I normally wave to other E30's anyway...

White Cab on an E plate

Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:31 pm

MJG wrote:How can people who drive 20year old midsize family saloons refer to drifting specifically as "council". e30s are a council estate car!

As for calling drifters gay, sure, there are a load of knobbers who fit big stupid spoilers and big stickers and try and tell everyone they are soooo "drift" y0, but what's wrong with this...

(ignore the wheels I just had them on to get to events).

Good honest e30, being built for the track, to enjoy myself. If I changed the diff to an LSD rather than a welded diff then it would probably be a lot faster than most of the cars on this site, does that impress you all more? Me telling you how big my BHP c**k is? I'm sure I have a lot more fun driving mine than those of you sat on here acting old before your time (or actually just being old) moaning about those who have a different hobby to you. Have your opinion sure, and you are welcome to never go to a drift event or never bother watching any of it on youtube etc, and if you don't see much point in it then that's fine, but why try and label people who have a perfectly innocent hobby as chavs or "council" because of this?

That's pretty well put - I can't argue with that at all.
One thing - you could do some proper track days. I bet that E30 would be a laugh around Croft or Cadwell Park.

Mon Jun 09, 2008 3:42 pm

jay1980 wrote:
e30bmlover wrote:i could turn up and try to talk people out of doing it... ******* up diffs, tyres, drivetrain.... the list goes on. if you need to spin the wheels of you car to make yourself feel like a man there is something seriously wrong in your life.
I never understand this kind of point of view, why would you care? If it isn't being done to your car what does it matter? Your not footing the bill!

Why presume that if someone is spinning the wheels its to make them selves feel like a man??

Although I haven't done any yet, drifting appeals to me like many others as its a cheap form of motorsport

i am entitled to my opinion... and that is what i have typed... if you dont like it jog on! i just dont like to see the cars being @ucked with like that mine or not. you should see that amount of pricks here in norwich car parks doing allsorts of shit.. showing off to their girlfriends or mates.. its @ucking sad.

papercutout wrote:
e30bmlover wrote:
lance1a wrote:So, why not have a E30zone drift day? Could be an interesting meet with some action and also a method of weeding out those who say they can but can't.
i could turn up and try to talk people out of doing it... ******* up diffs, tyres, drivetrain.... the list goes on. if you need to spin the wheels of you car to make yourself feel like a man there is something seriously wrong in your life. if i ever decided to part with my car and i had the slightest feeling that the person who was trying to buy it was going to drift it or **** it up, i would tell him to hit the @ucking road.
If it ever happens, come along and one of us will take you out and you'll either like it, or if not, you can **** off and join the wingers who should never have come along in the first place ;)

If it ever happens, although there's meant to be some drifting at the BMW show isn't there?

yeah i might just do that... come along and watch... then when your car @ucks up ( judging by the post i get the feeling that you give your car a hard time but when you come to sell it to some poor sod no doubt it will be advertised as well looked after.. bmw enthusiast owned.. no expense spared) i can say i told you so. but that will never happen as im not into that @hit.

Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:55 pm

Glad you see where most of us are coming from Andyboy, I would love to do trackdays but at the moment I can only afford to compete in the drift championship, if I was to do a trackday I'd have to give up drifting (which I'm good at).

I can't wait to do some trackdays but for now I'm happy with drifting. I enjoy the competition and I couldn't afford to compete in conventional racing so drifting is a great, cheap way of getting on track and it's great at getting rid of frustrations when you smoke it through a corner in 4th gear in awe of the exhaust noise yum yum.

Mon Jun 09, 2008 4:57 pm

papercutout wrote:Rosc0PColtrane - I don't think you've prior knowledge of topi to go making that judgement. He's owned a number of cars over the last year or so since I met him at retrorides 07, all of which are thoroughly interesting and definitely cool. And I can assure you, he'd not wimp out on a rally stage! This is him in action:

Thought we weren't getting personal?

Felix79 - whereabouts near Oxford are you? There's quite a few E30's I see round here...

Looks like this topic is finally going to die a death!

Regardless of cool cars or being a nice fellow (even though the car is facing the wrong way through the corner

), the post was shit.

It was no way personal. If I said he shares his bed with his sister and an Alsatian, with his mum watching, while taking it up trap two from his brother; that would have been marginally personal....

I could have also insinuated he was not aesthetically pleasing to look at. That too could be deemed personal.

Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:45 pm

e30bmlover wrote:yeah i might just do that... come along and watch... then when your car @ucks up ( judging by the post i get the feeling that you give your car a hard time but when you come to sell it to some poor sod no doubt it will be advertised as well looked after.. bmw enthusiast owned.. no expense spared) i can say i told you so. but that will never happen as im not into that @hit.

Not sure how anything in my post indicated that I give my car a hard time. Outside of drifting my car probably gets driven gentler than 80% of the E30's on here, especially ones with an M42 engine, because I'm skint and can't afford much petrol, so treat her like an absolute baby, while saving money for when I can use her properly.
I also DO try to keep on top of problems. But I'd never say no expense spared - its a drift car, and thats what I use it for, meaning it has been used hard and I'll sell it as such. You're taking a very aggressive position in your posts, and its just giving us more to laugh at

Ok Rosc0PColtrane, I'l complain at him for chatting rubbish next time I see him...

Mon Jun 09, 2008 6:47 pm

im surprised this thread not been locked yet?

Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:36 pm

papercutout wrote: Ok Rosc0PColtrane, I'l complain at him for chatting rubbish next time I see him...

Thanks mate.

Mon Jun 09, 2008 9:10 pm

e30bmlover wrote:i am entitled to my opinion... and that is what i have typed... if you dont like it jog on!

And I am entitled to mine! Is this whole thread not about differing opinions? So what are you on about, jog on?

Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:19 pm

fuzzy wrote:im surprised this thread not been locked yet?

I am keeping an eye on it...

Mon Jun 09, 2008 11:18 pm

I was at silverstone on Saturday and Sunday this weekend just gone. It was a renault weekend, a fair amount of promotional stuff(Last years F1 car, classics) bundled in with formula renault, some megane race, and the infamous clio cup.

Now after watching some good racing with the renault 3.5 litre engine single seater things(it does get tedious after a while and the noise is close on deafening) it was very refreshing to watch two blokes intentionally drifting some old school group B spec renault 5's about. These things have a very short wheelbase which i presume makes it much more snappy. They were very good and linked corners nicely.

There I have said it, i enjoyed watching people drift.

Just don't shove it down my throat. This is e30zone, not trampdrift after all. Fair?

Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:33 am

jay1980 wrote:
e30bmlover wrote:i am entitled to my opinion... and that is what i have typed... if you dont like it jog on!
So what are you on about, jog on?

click the link . . . http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=jog+on

Jon_Bmw wrote: This is e30zone, not trampdrift after all. Fair?

too true jon...

Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:10 pm

I didn't ask you what it means, I just wondered why you were being a cock about it

Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:27 pm

I guess it's because he has no point at all Jay1980 and just wanted to join in on the topic.. He's talking about people trying to look like men. In all honesty, with your attitude bmlover it looks to me like you're trying to be 'the man'.

I say live and let live, nothing wrong with Drifting or Track days.. I enjoy both (watching that is) and when I'm a tad older and can afford to do such.. I'll do my fair amount of both.

If you can't afford the big equipment, what's wrong with doing it on a budget? Just because you can't shop at Morrisons doesn't mean you shouldn't shop at Lidl! (Well... mind you..)

And I'd like to see half these people that say 'Oh I can get the rear out on a roundabout, it's easy' drift half as well as the professional competitors.. I can get my cars arse out on a roundabout but I wouldn't be able to keep up at 100+ MPH on a track, totally different environment!

Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:56 pm

e30bmlover wrote:you should see that amount of pricks here in norwich car parks doing allsorts of shit.. showing off to their girlfriends or mates.. its @ucking sad.

Quite. Not that you've ever posted about how you wasted an E36 at the traffic lights

Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:02 pm

Jon_Bmw wrote:I was at silverstone on Saturday and Sunday this weekend just gone. It was a renault weekend, a fair amount of promotional stuff(Last years F1 car, classics) bundled in with formula renault, some megane race, and the infamous clio cup.

Now after watching some good racing with the renault 3.5 litre engine single seater things(it does get tedious after a while and the noise is close on deafening) it was very refreshing to watch two blokes intentionally drifting some old school group B spec renault 5's about. These things have a very short wheelbase which i presume makes it much more snappy. They were very good and linked corners nicely.

There I have said it, i enjoyed watching people drift. Just don't shove it down my throat. This is e30zone, not trampdrift after all. Fair?

The clio cup races were highlight of my day really close tri'podding action going on was very cool to watch, the F1 car doing doing doughnuts that was loud! Couple of the world masters series drivers lost it just before the pit/grandstand straight one was quite funny looked like he was trying to recover and drift it round and still dropped it in spectacular fashion

Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:16 pm

darkchild wrote:
e30bmlover wrote:you should see that amount of pricks here in norwich car parks doing allsorts of shit.. showing off to their girlfriends or mates.. its @ucking sad.
Quite. Not that you've ever posted about how you wasted an E36 at the traffic lights

lmao.... yeah but thats different... he needed to be taught a lesson!
im sorry if i have upset the apple cart with my views... possibly due to my over enthusiastic love for the cars.. i have just taken delivery of my schnitzer aero kit and i feel a little giddy just looking at it... the real deal.. forget the other tuning companys kits... this is proper rare! the plan is coming together...... together.....