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Colour of my Alpina paint job

Diamond Black
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Alpina Blue
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Total votes: 202
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 9:42 am

BLACK
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 10:11 am

I voted Alpina Blue, as have 54% so far.

The originality bufties are exactly that - bufties.

There are literally a million Diamond Black E30's on our roads. Make your car stand out like it deserves to.

Blue all the way!
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:37 am

bss325i wrote:
Simon13 wrote:i've only read to page 4 but i'd like to get some things straight

The car has had 10 previous keepers

The milege is 119k

The shell is straight and isn't rusted out of it's brains

i have every MOT, service book with "built by mark adkin" Alpina C2 2.7 for the model all the numbers are matching engine chassis etc on it, plus a large history file. I've also got copys of every log book change.

Base car was a 325i 2door not even an SE!

I can tell from the history that it swapped hands early on a bit company car for a while then bought. It had 2 owners in the 90's who both kept for around 5 years. Then in 2000 the car started changing hands quickly. i know it sat outside unused for 2 years as i've spoken to 2 previous owners. WLN rescued it off ebay then i came into the equation

I am mad but please tell me it isn't a good starting point. The 2 owner 80,000 mile mint cars just aren't out there, so i'm building one up
It IS a good starting point because its not a rot box and has history! Keep it BLACK!
I think you're saying this mainly because you have a diamond black car and like the colour. Fair enough I guess.

To me, it's a lifeless nothing colour. It's the same as any other 80's/90's metallic black on M reg Mondeos, E36's, Vectras. It's okay when clean but it's hardly a stunning colour is it?
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:44 am

Blue is awesome. Waaaaaaaay better thank Black, which is dull as doornails as common as muck.


But it must stay Black.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:51 am

Meister_Munch wrote:Blue is awesome. Waaaaaaaay better thank Black, which is dull as doornails as common as muck.


But it must stay Black.
Why? It's not a 288GTO or an RS Carrera, it's an E30 worth maybe 10 grand finished.
To paint it another standard 88/89 BMW colour would be a bit iffy. Doing it blue would make it the colour it always needed to be and the first owner couldn't afford!
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:54 am

Andyboy wrote:
Meister_Munch wrote:Blue is awesome. Waaaaaaaay better thank Black, which is dull as doornails as common as muck.


But it must stay Black.
Why? It's not a 288GTO or an RS Carrera, it's an E30 worth maybe 10 grand finished.
To paint it another standard 88/89 BMW colour would be a bit iffy. Doing it blue would make it the colour it always needed to be and the first owner couldn't afford!
I dig that. I'm sick to death of all the Black on Black crime prevalent in the E30 market these days. Every friggin' E30 is Black. You can't BUY one that isn't. The Blue would put in a pedestal and the Gold decals just make it zing - maybe one of the finest in the UK.

Yet...

It must stay Black.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:56 am

im voting for blue with the gold striping, it looks truely stunning.

are you actually gonna go with the poll vote ??.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:04 pm

I voted black,but now i think the blue would be far better,simply because its rare.Ive never seen an alpina blue car,but plenty of diamond black.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:10 pm

When is the actual work starting - are the guys literally standing next to the car with a big pot of Black and big pot of Blue, spray gun in one hand phone in the other?
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:51 pm

Meister_Munch wrote:It must stay Black.
So you keep saying. How about a constructive reason why? winkeye
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 12:54 pm

Andyboy wrote:
Meister_Munch wrote:It must stay Black.
So you keep saying. How about a constructive reason why? winkeye

Once you go black you ........... :)
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:01 pm

Blue is now ahead by more than 10%! :cool:
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:18 pm

pacerpete wrote:
Andyboy wrote:
Meister_Munch wrote:It must stay Black.
So you keep saying. How about a constructive reason why? winkeye

Once you go black you ........... :)
Don't have any choice in the matter. winkeye
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:47 pm

At the end of the day,Simon,this is your car and your call.As you are already changing the spec. from the original build sheet you are also allowed to change the body colour.If you were suggesting pink with blue spots we would all be horrified...but alpinis blue is the correct colour for this car in my opinion.It will work with black leather,or with grey or even dark red...will the interior options be your next poll? You have waited long enough to reach this point in your re-build,now pick up your phone and tell the paint man you have selected blue...
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:09 pm

bss325i wrote:
Simon13 wrote:i've only read to page 4 but i'd like to get some things straight

The car has had 10 previous keepers

The milege is 119k

The shell is straight and isn't rusted out of it's brains

i have every MOT, service book with "built by mark adkin" Alpina C2 2.7 for the model all the numbers are matching engine chassis etc on it, plus a large history file. I've also got copys of every log book change.

Base car was a 325i 2door not even an SE!

I can tell from the history that it swapped hands early on a bit company car for a while then bought. It had 2 owners in the 90's who both kept for around 5 years. Then in 2000 the car started changing hands quickly. i know it sat outside unused for 2 years as i've spoken to 2 previous owners. WLN rescued it off ebay then i came into the equation

I am mad but please tell me it isn't a good starting point. The 2 owner 80,000 mile mint cars just aren't out there, so i'm building one up
It IS a good starting point because its not a rot box and has history! Keep it BLACK!
full time.... you would have to be some sort of idiot to change the car from its original colour... originality is what counts, she wasnt ment to be alpina blue. do the RIGHT thing and keep her black.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:18 pm

e30bmlover wrote:
bss325i wrote:
Simon13 wrote:i've only read to page 4 but i'd like to get some things straight

The car has had 10 previous keepers

The milege is 119k

The shell is straight and isn't rusted out of it's brains

i have every MOT, service book with "built by mark adkin" Alpina C2 2.7 for the model all the numbers are matching engine chassis etc on it, plus a large history file. I've also got copys of every log book change.

Base car was a 325i 2door not even an SE!

I can tell from the history that it swapped hands early on a bit company car for a while then bought. It had 2 owners in the 90's who both kept for around 5 years. Then in 2000 the car started changing hands quickly. i know it sat outside unused for 2 years as i've spoken to 2 previous owners. WLN rescued it off ebay then i came into the equation

I am mad but please tell me it isn't a good starting point. The 2 owner 80,000 mile mint cars just aren't out there, so i'm building one up
It IS a good starting point because its not a rot box and has history! Keep it BLACK!
full time.... you would have to be some sort of idiot to change the car from its original colour... originality is what counts, she wasnt ment to be alpina blue. do the RIGHT thing and keep her black.
It wasn't meant to have a leather interior or a racing dynamics manifold or any of the other touches Simon has applied.

Should he remove them too. And if he doesn't is he an idiot as you put it?
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:23 pm

I just voted Blue, but meant Black... honest! lol
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:53 pm

e30bmlover wrote:
bss325i wrote:
Simon13 wrote:i've only read to page 4 but i'd like to get some things straight

The car has had 10 previous keepers

The milege is 119k

The shell is straight and isn't rusted out of it's brains

i have every MOT, service book with "built by mark adkin" Alpina C2 2.7 for the model all the numbers are matching engine chassis etc on it, plus a large history file. I've also got copys of every log book change.

Base car was a 325i 2door not even an SE!

I can tell from the history that it swapped hands early on a bit company car for a while then bought. It had 2 owners in the 90's who both kept for around 5 years. Then in 2000 the car started changing hands quickly. i know it sat outside unused for 2 years as i've spoken to 2 previous owners. WLN rescued it off ebay then i came into the equation

I am mad but please tell me it isn't a good starting point. The 2 owner 80,000 mile mint cars just aren't out there, so i'm building one up
It IS a good starting point because its not a rot box and has history! Keep it BLACK!
full time.... you would have to be some sort of idiot to change the car from its original colour... originality is what counts, she wasnt ment to be alpina blue. do the RIGHT thing and keep her black.

The car was ORIGINALLY a base model 325 that was CONVERTED to C2 2.7 spec by Franks monkeys / artisans and then served to a rich victim.
If i was 15 bags into a 325 i would want something very special. In diamond black, Simons car will be very nice, in Alpina blue it will be very special ! :)
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:04 pm

pacerpete wrote:
e30bmlover wrote:
bss325i wrote: It IS a good starting point because its not a rot box and has history! Keep it BLACK!
full time.... you would have to be some sort of idiot to change the car from its original colour... originality is what counts, she wasnt ment to be alpina blue. do the RIGHT thing and keep her black.

The car was ORIGINALLY a base model 325 that was CONVERTED to C2 2.7 spec by Franks monkeys / artisans and then served to a rich victim.
If i was 15 bags into a 325 i would want something very special. In diamond black, Simons car will be very nice, in Alpina blue it will be very special ! :)
Agree totally.

In Diamond Black the car could be mistaken for any old e30.

Alpina Blue all the way.

If you take into account the fact that most people who have voted black openly admit they think blue is the best colour, then the blue wins by a mile.

When does the Alpina rightness start getting sprayed?
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:26 pm

pacerpete wrote:The car was ORIGINALLY a base model 325 that was CONVERTED to C2 2.7 spec by Franks monkeys / artisans and then served to a rich victim.
So does it have an Alpina VIN, or just a standard BMW one? Whichever way it's painted, is it still just a 325 but tarted up with some Alpina bolt-on bullsh** and some cut-out-six-tokens-from-our-breakfast-cereal gold decals?

Throwing the originality argument to one side, I still think the blue is a gack colour, and with gold decals it'll ooze all the charm and finesse of Essex.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:32 pm

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pacerpete wrote:The car was ORIGINALLY a base model 325 that was CONVERTED to C2 2.7 spec by Franks monkeys / artisans and then served to a rich victim.
So does it have an Alpina VIN, or just a standard BMW one? Whichever way it's painted, is it still just a 325 but tarted up with some Alpina bolt-on bullsh** and some cut-out-six-tokens-from-our-breakfast-cereal gold decals?

Throwing the originality argument to one side, I still think the blue is a gack colour, and with gold decals it'll ooze all the charm and finesse of Essex.
It doesn't work like that here in the UK, this is a GENUINE Alpina, not some Alpina bolt-on bullshit as you put it.

RHD UK spec alpinas were converted from built BMW E30's, in Germany I believe the shells and parts were put together by Alpina in house.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:14 pm

march109 wrote:
e30bmlover wrote:
bss325i wrote: It IS a good starting point because its not a rot box and has history! Keep it BLACK!
full time.... you would have to be some sort of idiot to change the car from its original colour... originality is what counts, she wasnt ment to be alpina blue. do the RIGHT thing and keep her black.
It wasn't meant to have a leather interior or a racing dynamics manifold or any of the other touches Simon has applied.

Should he remove them too. And if he doesn't is he an idiot as you put it?
i see your point about the addons...the point i was getting accross was in my opinion he should keep the car its original colour. the leather and the manifold are bolt on items and can be removed at any time.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:31 pm

mr_dink wrote:
pacerpete wrote:
e30bmlover wrote: full time.... you would have to be some sort of idiot to change the car from its original colour... originality is what counts, she wasnt ment to be alpina blue. do the RIGHT thing and keep her black.

The car was ORIGINALLY a base model 325 that was CONVERTED to C2 2.7 spec by Franks monkeys / artisans and then served to a rich victim.
If i was 15 bags into a 325 i would want something very special. In diamond black, Simons car will be very nice, in Alpina blue it will be very special ! :)
Agree totally.

In Diamond Black the car could be mistaken for any old e30.
What, pastered in Alpina stripes? :roll:
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:34 pm

Andyboy wrote:
pacerpete wrote:
Andyboy wrote: So you keep saying. How about a constructive reason why? winkeye

Once you go black you ........... :)
Don't have any choice in the matter. winkeye
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:36 pm

blue does look quite cool.....

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Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:37 pm

I want to see it in blue,
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:40 pm

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pacerpete wrote:
The car was ORIGINALLY a base model 325 that was CONVERTED to C2 2.7 spec by Franks monkeys / artisans and then served to a rich victim.
If i was 15 bags into a 325 i would want something very special. In diamond black, Simons car will be very nice, in Alpina blue it will be very special ! :)
Agree totally.

In Diamond Black the car could be mistaken for any old e30.
What, pastered in Alpina stripes? :roll:

Good point.

But what I was trying to say is that in black the car won't stand out like it would in blue.

Also there are plenty of councilled up chariots with ebay Alpina/Schnitzer/etc stickers that have nothing to do with said companies.

Blue is the hero's choice.

Just my 2p's worth.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:48 pm

Has to be blue without any doubt, doubt a colour change will affect its value much if going to be well documented to tie in with its history. A good high quality paint job is more likely to dictate its value and personal satisfaction regardless of colour. Another thing this blue i take it as very rare yet period colour for the E30 Alpina only so why not use a genuine colour which will stand out in awe to e30 fans and beyond.
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:51 pm

blue wins hands down!!!!
you will wish you had gone blue if you dont, so go blue and skip the heartache... winkeye
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:55 pm

no it isn't if i paint it black and then regret it i'll be safe in the knowledge that it's still its original colour.

Blue is great but everyone will know it was black and can i live with it? People and bufties will always use it against the car no matter how nice it looks. I was for blue last night today more black. I still don't know. I keep thinking what would i like to see when i open the garage door?

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Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:03 pm

It's your car, do what you like!

I personally would go blue, it would definitely stand out more in a crowd.

If your not going to sell it for a long time, why worry about it not being original?
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:12 pm

Simon13 wrote:no it isn't if i paint it black and then regret it i'll be safe in the knowledge that it's still its original colour.

Blue is great but everyone will know it was black and can i live with it? People and bufties will always use it against the car no matter how nice it looks. I was for blue last night today more black. I still don't know. I keep thinking what would i like to see when i open the garage door?

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Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:18 pm

nearly everyone here says blue is far better, the only reason they are saying to go back is to keep the originality of it,
BUT, if you go blue, you go for a better colour, alpina colour. still original, just not to the car. so what???
its your car, go with what you want, if you like the blue, go with it,
if you dont intend selling it, whats the harm, anyone that puts it down is just jelous....
i know what colour would put a huge smile on my face when i opened the garage door if i were you..
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Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:30 pm

either way now i'm going to have the hump like oldskool said and want the other.

about a month after i bought the C2 i was offered another C2! it was a LHD 2.7 touring in guess what colour! it had every factory option you could think of alpina and bmw. I just couldn't stretch to buy it as i had just bought the black car and had only been in my house 3 months.

It's come back to haunt me as i could of had both!
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