E30zone dragstrip challenge.

[stitch-626]

Great idea! I think d9dph's categories in the first post are the most fair.

A 6cyl class is slightly unfair as a m50 powered e30 is gonna wooop a 325i! as with 4cyl a s14 will woop an m40

thing is you start getting to the point of having a 318i class, 316i class, 318iS class.. etc etc

Mr Nelsons idea sounds good..

Or a simple <2000cc, <2500cc, <3500cc, 24v, FI Maybe? **** knows..

All claimed times would need to be backed up with a printout!!

Better But cleaned up to:

Under 2000cc Period Engines
Under 2000cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
Under 3100cc but over 2000cc Period Engines
Under 3100cc but over 2000cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
Over 3100cc Period Engines
Over 3100cc FI/NOS/Not OEM

And no one runs on slicks, road legal tyres only.

definatly the best system so far.
but asfor my 324d i'm fooked

[old_skool]

When the flag drops, the bullshit stops.

[march109]

My final proposal, I think this is farer as it puts a certain cossie engine e30 in a higher level


A1 Under 1900cc Period Engines
A2 Under 1900cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
B1 Under 3100cc but over 1900cc Period Engines
B2 Under 3100cc but over 1900cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
C1 Over 3100cc Period Engines
C2 Over 3100cc FI/NOS/Not OEM

And no one runs on slicks, road legal tyres only.

Seperate prize also awarded to Fastest Overall, and that persons trophy for catagory win given to the 2nd place person in that catagory.

Period engine defined as an engine with original block and head, any mods to management, exhaust, intake, valves, ect are allowed, this would allow M20 strokers which use M52 and M54 cranks for greater displacement. And I would assume a certain 2.1L 318is too.

[Colonel Sanders]

My final proposal, I think this is farer as it puts a certain cossie engine e30 in a higher level

Under 1900cc Period Engines
Under 1900cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
Under 3100cc but over 1900cc Period Engines
Under 3100cc but over 1900cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
Over 3100cc Period Engines
Over 3100cc FI/NOS/Not OEM

And no one runs on slicks, road legal tyres only.

Seperate prize also awarded to Fastest Overall, and that persons trophy for catagory win given to the 2nd place person in that catagory.

Period engine defined as an engine with original block and head, any mods to management, exhaust, intake, valves, ect are allowed, this would allow M20 strokers which use M52 and M54 cranks for greater displacement. And I would assume a certain 2.1L 318is too.

sounds fair, i likey...

[agreen]

And I would assume a certain 2.1L 318is too.

thats all the other is's fooked then loooool

[hoshy]

And I would assume a certain 2.1L 318is too.

thats all the other is's fooked then loooool

Not really. Tim's car is quite mildly tuned cos of the miles he does. I reckon 7.5k rev limit and a quick remap on a lairy cam (with the 4.1slip diff) should see Tim off Of course it'd never make a daily runner like that but for one or two drag runs it'd cope

[march109]

And I would assume a certain 2.1L 318is too.

thats all the other is's fooked then loooool

No thats the point of my system it would run in class B1, as its over 1900cc and all the normal displacement N/A is's would run in class A1. That particular is would give a 2.5 a run for its money.

[march109]

Unfortunatly for Tim all the proposals so far ould put his car in a higher class than the other 318is' because we all chose a cut off of around 2.0L, but its an awesome car and will smoke a few 2.5's

[d6dph]

We can't have too many classes, It's going to cost me a bomb in trophies!

Also the overall winner should keep his/her class crown too imo.

[march109]

7 isn't alot, clear perspex isn't expensive (or 3 different colours for the classes) and you must have a jigsaw at home, could knock up some e30 shapes and then add the lettering yourself in white stickers. Its the winning that counts not the prize or the taking part no matter what some may say.

[madaboutthe30]

Its the winning that counts not the prize or the taking part no matter what some may say.

Im going to lovvve this

[Dave_M3]

Great idea. I must try get over to it this year.

[agreen]

so who is going to race bootyman for slips ! ! !

Fast and furious style lmfao

[Colonel Sanders]

Its the winning that counts not the prize or the taking part no matter what some may say.

[march109]

lmfao I reckon it should be the person with the biggest shed of the day and stitch up booty with the fee to tow it home.

[agreen]

lmfao I reckon it should be the person with the biggest shed of the day and stitch up booty with the fee to tow it home.

If he can find a toe rope amogst the million subs and 7000 amps lol


That is if he can make it to this event !

[d6dph]

Right now I have finished eating my dinner, Here is my take on it

A1 Under 2000cc Period Engines
A2 Under 2000cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
B1 Under 2950cc but over 2001cc Period Engines
B2 Under 2950cc but over 2001cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
C1 Over 2950cc Period Engines
C2 Over 2950cc FI/NOS/Not OEM

That then puts the 320 in the class of the 318IS as they are fairly similar power, 2001 - 2950 then moves the s50b30 engined cars out of the m20's category.

This then levels the playing field a touch imo.

(My idea my rules )

[march109]

I should also say to avoid cheating touring owners are not allowed to fold down their rear seats, and no one is allowed to run with ebay vortex intakes, fuel regulators or chips the extra bhp gains they would give would be disasterous to the sport and equivelent to steroid use.

[agreen]

whata about itb's

[march109]

Right now I have finished eating my dinner, Here is my take on it

A1 Under 2000cc Period Engines
A2 Under 2000cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
B1 Under 2950cc but over 2001cc Period Engines
B2 Under 2950cc but over 2001cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
C1 Over 2950cc Period Engines
C2 Over 2950cc FI/NOS/Not OEM

That then puts the 320 in the class of the 318IS as they are fairly similar power, 2001 - 2950 then moves the s50b30 engined cars out of the m20's category.

This then levels the playing field a touch imo.

(My idea my rules )

OK, S50b30 isn't a period engine so would be in the modified class of B2 anyway in my version, but now C2 so up against turbo m30's and M5 engines ect ect.

But I shall be taking total and full credit for the founding principles of this new e30 motorsport discipline, since your edit was minor and insignificant compared to the hard work and research I put into the basis of the framework for class definitions.

[maxfield]

4 pot vs 6 pot, this has to be done!

[oldroydsr4]

Personally i think the s50 and 52 engines should be in with the 2.5 turbos etc.

under 3500cc instead of 2950, this also puts the m30 in the same category.

[march109]

whata about itb's

well its an intake mod and therefore would put a car running itbs in the A1, B1 or C1 catagory depending upon displacement. And considering how hard they are to set up ect thats only fair, and I've not actually seen a E30 on ITB's make massive gains, though would love to be proved wrong.

Take Players 2.8 for example, really for the extra displacement and itbs doesn't make massively more power than a 2.7! But is awesome in its own right (mental note hope he doesn't turn up!).

And all cylinders are still filled at atmospheric pressure and with regular pump fuel and air, and nothing else so whats the issue?

[Colonel Sanders]

4 pot vs 6 pot, this has to be done!

any day, any where!!!

[agreen]

just saying hoping to have the striped and caged is on itbs ready by then although i know it wont make much power i was hoping i would not be thrown in with the charged is's looooool

[maxfield]

4 pot vs 6 pot, this has to be done!

any day, any where!!!

Hmmmm, I'm pretty sure we couldn't cope with turbo'ed cars down the strip, track is a different matter.

[march109]

Personally i think the s50 and 52 engines should be in with the 2.5 turbos etc.

under 3500cc instead of 2950, this also puts the m30 in the same category.

I do kind of agree theres an argument for both, after all with a decent manifold the E36 M3 engines will make stock power at over 300bhp, if a 325i is running in the FI class its not really a deserved winner if it isn't making 300+ bhp and should beat these.

But I think its ok as it is, which would put them in class C2 up against FI/NOS M30's where the base N/A power is closer as well as displacement is also similar.

[Andy335Touring]

I'm up for this, probobly won't win any thing but i aint bothered, pod meets are ace and 10 x better than static car meets

[d6dph]

Right now I have finished eating my dinner, Here is my take on it

A1 Under 2000cc Period Engines
A2 Under 2000cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
B1 Under 2950cc but over 2001cc Period Engines
B2 Under 2950cc but over 2001cc FI/NOS/Not OEM
C1 Over 2950cc Period Engines
C2 Over 2950cc FI/NOS/Not OEM

That then puts the 320 in the class of the 318IS as they are fairly similar power, 2001 - 2950 then moves the s50b30 engined cars out of the m20's category.

This then levels the playing field a touch imo.

(My idea my rules )

OK, S50b30 isn't a period engine so would be in the modified class of B2 anyway in my version, but now C2 so up against turbo m30's and M5 engines ect ect.

But I shall be taking total and full credit for the founding principles of this new e30 motorsport discipline, since your edit was minor and insignificant compared to the hard work and research I put into the basis of the framework for class definitions.

Pah, I have an edit button so can dispose of any evidence that you posted it! Just thought of a trophy design too.

[march109]

Pah I know it was me and shall forever claim so.

Whats the troph design? bet its not as good as mine! ..................or maybe it is mine................

[zaust]

I should also say to avoid cheating touring owners are not allowed to fold down their rear seats, and no one is allowed to run with ebay vortex intakes, fuel regulators or chips the extra bhp gains they would give would be disasterous to the sport and equivelent to steroid use.

That's what B2 is for. I'm in.

[treeseries]

what catorgory is a 318IS runnuing standard goin in and would it make a difference if i stripped the interior? not to the performance but the catorgory? also do they do top speed runs?

[march109]

what catorgory is a 318IS runnuing standard goin in and would it make a difference if i stripped the interior? not to the performance but the catorgory? also do they do top speed runs?

That would be A1 since its a period engine with displacement under 2000cc and not Supercharged, turbocharged or on NOS.

A1 sounds good but its actually the slowest class.

[treeseries]

alright alright to be fair anyone else will probably beat me cos im 6'2" and weigh about 20stone so to get my excuse in early my power to weight ratio is more than others and had some1 smaller been driving my car it would have been better on the day.

[Colonel Sanders]

4 pot vs 6 pot, this has to be done!

any day, any where!!!

Hmmmm, I'm pretty sure we couldn't cope with turbo'ed cars down the strip, track is a different matter.

true, true, i wouldnt like to comment on that one, but i have fully polybushed my car, and eibach anti roll bars, and 280mm willwood 4pots, coilovers coming soon, so i would give it a go for the crack...