GRRRRRR ENGINE REMOVAL help : }

[craigieeb]

HELLLLLLLLLLLP im going to attack the fcuk out of my car!!!!

does anyone know how the hell im supposed to get the top bolt's out of the gearbox??? iv try'd from the front top of the engine, under the car with a power bar but there is no room to get any sort of turn on the socket,

any help would be extreeeeeeeeeeemly helpfull : )

[chieftouring]

wot engine u tryin to get out m8?

[craigieeb]

a mother of a fcuk M20 2.0

[Ritchie]

I would suggest dropping the gearbox crossmember down, that should help a bit but you might have to take out your gearstick etc. Just support the box with a trolley jack.

[craigieeb]

hmmm yeah, if i take off the prop, drop the box a bit then the 2 twating bolts should be facing down a bit, which would give me room to at least get a turn on them,

cheers : )

[Toby_Unna]

craig do it from under the car

you need small sockets (3/8" drive 13mm i think) and one uni joint driving the socket, then long extensions eg 50cm worth then a bar or ratchet. once cracked you should be able to turn the extension whith just your hand if you're lucky!

as said, drop the gearbox down to make it easier, you can do it with just 2 axle stands under the front wishbones

if you get pissed off just imagine me trying to put the top 2 bolts back in my 535i gearbox in the e30, on the road, in the snow

suffice to say one of the 2 is still in my cellar

[TOURINGDADDY]

Get ya 10" disc grinder and ave out with ur motor

[325iconv]

When I took the engine out of my 2.5 I loosened the gearbox mounts and propshaft(centre nut that holds it together) and lifted the engine a bit it pulled the engine and box forward so you have enough space to undo the top bolt
hope it helps dude
Steve

[A1BMW325iSport]

y not take the box out with engine far easier i find

[glenn]

craig do it from under the car

you need small sockets (3/8" drive 13mm i think) and one uni joint driving the socket, then long extensions eg 50cm worth then a bar or ratchet. once cracked you should be able to turn the extension whith just your hand if you're lucky!

as said, drop the gearbox down to make it easier, you can do it with just 2 axle stands under the front wishbones

if you get pissed off just imagine me trying to put the top 2 bolts back in my 535i gearbox in the e30, on the road, in the snow

suffice to say one of the 2 is still in my cellar

you crack me up, toby

[craigieeb]

and me , there would be no fekin way id be doing anything like that in the snow, and im not suprised 1 of the blots are still in the cellar
and i bet it's the same feking bolt a still cant get out (due to lack of extentions i recon) and i BET its the 19ml on the top left.

[Turbo-Brown]

When I took the engine out of my 2.5 I loosened the gearbox mounts and propshaft(centre nut that holds it together) and lifted the engine a bit it pulled the engine and box forward so you have enough space to undo the top bolt
hope it helps dude
Steve

I did exactly that to get mine out. Didn't enjoy it one little bit!

Put the engine and box back in on saturday by lifting the car up on BIG axle stands (which cost Ԛ£20 from screwfit direct) and lifting the engine assembly up into position. Hell of a lot easier and safer!

You only need to get the front of the car about 750mm off the deck to be able to get the engine out

[craigieeb]

what so you lifted the car over the engine rather than droping the engine in?? and do you think that was a better way of doing it?

[Wilson]

I lifted engine and gearbox out, then undid the gearbox bolts, seemed easier to me... to be honest I didn't think of just dropping gearbox a bit!!!

Watch out for the hydraulic clutch pipe...

[Richy325iTouring]

doing mine on saturday
will prob have pics and a step by step lol
been a few years since i changed an m20 though

[Toby_Unna]

this will make you feel better craig!

i tried to put my m30 in with the box on and it got very very jammed, oops, maybe we'll try without the box then!




i did build my car in a friend's garage to be fair. but by the time i'd decided i'd better put a different engine in it because the old one was buggered, i'd pi$$ed off both the mate and my dad sufficiently that the road was my only option

[Wilson]

Must admit, was very very tight with gearbox on... had to get the shoe horn out... the power stearing pump looked like we were gonna have to take it off.. and we had to physically tuck the fan blades in while lowering it... I actually had a friend in the car, trying to lift the gearbox up for a better angle with rope through the lever hole!!!

[Toby_Unna]

what so you lifted the car over the engine rather than droping the engine in?? and do you think that was a better way of doing it?

never tried that on a bm, you'd have to take the crossmember off though huh? although then you could put the engine and box in as one regardless how big the engine is...

done it on my mr2 though, the engine doesn't like going in from the top! don't think hoists are dangerous, just don't go under the thing!

[Wilson]

It was this...............


Going into this as one!!!


Somebody did mention lifting car over engine, but seemed hard work to me, although they swore it was easier!!!!!!

Notice the main tool, in the first pic!!!!!

[Toby_Unna]

that's pretty tight!

my m30 would barely go in with just the flywheel and clutch plate on, don't know what i was thinking trying to put it in with a box on too

the engine wouldn't even come out of the 535i it came from with the box on (auto admittedly) had to cut the front of the car off with a stihll saw

[craigieeb]

eye some canny pictures there like, wilson, i recon if you took off the fan it would of fitted first time , and yeah toby your right, it does make me feel a bit better knowing that you were out in the freeeezing cold, snow all around, soggy feet, snotty nose, and then there's me working away on one of the hottest days newcastle has seen for a long time

iv done a few engine changes thru the years but doing this one today just realy pissed me off for some reason and after hours of battleing there is only 1 bolt holding it all together




i had to walk away from it *AGAIN*, the amount of times this car has done this to me is unbelivable, if it doesnt play the game tomorow, toby, you gonna lend me your sthill saw???? coz i'll just cut the engine in to tiny little bits and remove it with chop sticks.

[Toby_Unna]

sadly not my saw craig (otherwise you'd be welcome to cut your engine up with it ), i think the guy breaking the 535i just got pi$$ed with watching me try to remove the damn thing

snow sucks!

[Turbo-Brown]

I only had probs getting it all out cos the hoist didn't quite lift high enough to clear the front of the car.

However, if I have to take it out again, I'll be dropping it out the bottom again.

It avoids the possibility of bashing things with a swinging lump of iron hanging from a length of string, plus when it's going back in, you can line all the mounts up and then just lift.

Finally, it'd cost about Ԛ£55 to hire a hoist from HSS, whereas my uber axle stands and a 2 tonne bottle jack came to a grand total of Ԛ£38

[Wilson]

eye some canny pictures there like, wilson, i recon if you took off the fan it would of fitted first time ,

We very nearly took the fan off, but just managed to tuck the blades in, when we first lowered the lump down, it looked impossible, but some wiggling and pushing etc it just squeezed in with no damage... maybe next time I will try Turbo Brown's way...!!

[craigieeb]

well after some devine insperatoin by my dad who drove 50 mile to stand there and say, why dont you just take off the engine mounts and sit the engine on the cross member?? and you know what, he was right you know, i lifted the engine just a little and unbolted the mounts, droped the thing down again on to the cross member, and hay presto, the gap just opend right up so i could get at the last bolt, WOOOOOHOOOOOOOO





now i just need to get my arse down to york to pick up my bottom end for the 2.5 to go in

[Toby_Unna]

GRRRRR DON'T YOU JUST HATE IT WHEN YOUR DAD DOES THAT!!!

seriously though it always helps to get a second view, you get so engrossed in it you can't see the obvious stuff

[craigieeb]

GRRRRR DON'T YOU JUST HATE IT WHEN YOUR DAD DOES THAT!!!


YES!!!!

seriously though it always helps to get a second view, you get so engrossed in it you can't see the obvious stuff

i know i could of kicked myself for not thinking the same thing .....yesterday