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Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:02 am

Hi

Having got round to one of the roundtuit jobs and removed the wipers on my 320, I have managed to free off both of them and rebuild them. Now to make the things good again, I need two seals (or caps as BMW call them) to finish the job.
Unfortunately having tried two dealers in the UK and one in Germany, I am informed they are NLA.
On the facetwit E30zone, a chap in Europe said he had some but was asking a rather high price for them!

So does anyone on her have two in as new condition please?

Many thanks.
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Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:28 am

I have been looking for quite a while and resigned myself to paying what the facetwit E30 zone chap was asking.

Haven't bought them yet but don't need them yet either, hoping something more sensible comes out by the time I do.
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Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 1:19 pm

Thanks mate but we're on about the 'other' cap that goes around the shaft to seal it 61631359531 but is NLA
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Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:12 pm

Sorry , its a pity that possibly one of the most neglected items has become now as rare as hens teeth . My car still has the set up all except the motors . Good luck with your search
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Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:38 pm

i found that ones from a sacrapped Volvo V40 were a perfect replacement,they have a stiff plastic shell around the seal rather than being squishy throughout like the BMW ones.
So a Volvo dealer or Ebay might be a source for these.
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Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:16 pm

biffer wrote:
Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:38 pm
i found that ones from a sacrapped Volvo V40 were a perfect replacement,they have a stiff plastic shell around the seal rather than being squishy throughout like the BMW ones.
So a Volvo dealer or Ebay might be a source for these.
hi do you mean the motor or just the seal
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Post Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:51 pm

Sorry,just the seal itself.
The Volvo one is made out of hard plastic so wont split over time like the E30 one.
The Volvo motor too looks a clone of the BMW one, the only external diference is the electrical connector.
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Post Mon Jul 06, 2020 7:20 am

Cheers biffer, I will give it a go.
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Post Mon Jul 06, 2020 9:24 am

After a bit or research and using and American Volvo parts website, I have the following Volvo part number for the seals on their Bosch headlamp wiper motors.
The number is 1246342 and they are £3.50 for a pair. My local Volvo dealer says they are a 5 day delivery due to them coming from Sweden.

Here's hoping they are the ones. Will let you know when they arrive. If they are I will be ordering a couple more for the 323i.
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Post Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:19 am

Not sure how fussy you are but I seem to remember you can use a valve stem seal to good effect.
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Post Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:32 am

This is really useful to know about those volvo parts because I'm losing all of my washer fluid through a leak that seems to be right at the end of the nozzle on the passenger side.

The motors still work so would be nice to stop that leak and maybe replace the wiper arms themselves as the rubber is a bit tired after 30 years aha
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Post Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:50 am

Lemon98 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:32 am
This is really useful to know about those volvo parts because I'm losing all of my washer fluid through a leak that seems to be right at the end of the nozzle on the passenger side.
The motors still work so would be nice to stop that leak and maybe replace the wiper arms themselves as the rubber is a bit tired after 30 years aha
No the seals we are talking about are at the end of the wiper shaft, nothing to do with the washers. They are to stop water getting IN to the wiper motors
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Lemon98 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:32 am
This is really useful to know about those volvo parts because I'm losing all of my washer fluid through a leak that seems to be right at the end of the nozzle on the passenger side.

The motors still work so would be nice to stop that leak and maybe replace the wiper arms themselves as the rubber is a bit tired after 30 years aha
That is likely to be the one way valve in the line behind the grille. I had this on one of mine as well.
On realoem the part number is 61661380464. 2 required - one for each side.

HLWW blades are 61631356734 - 4 required.
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Post Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:51 pm

Had the call from the ovlov dealer to say the seals are there. I will collect tomorrow afternoon so i will report back on their suitability later tomorrow.
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Post Thu Jul 09, 2020 10:43 am

So do they fit, well sort of :?

Here they are side by side, Volvo on the left.
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The Volvo shaft is a different design to the BMW
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BMW for comparison
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It fits well on the shaft the outer cover is metal so will stop the driving rain
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But doesn't quite make the seal on the back
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They fit on the shaft well and will seal better than perished BMW ones but they don't seal completely but for £1.80 I think they will do just fine :D
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Post Thu Jul 09, 2020 11:44 am

The seals i got from the v40 was a combination of the BMW and Volvo items in top pic.- there was the main rubber seal similar to the one on the right and then the small cap you've bought fits on the nose of the seal to give a bit more rigidity.
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Post Thu Jul 09, 2020 12:11 pm

biffer wrote:
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The seals i got from the v40 was a combination of the BMW and Volvo items in top pic.- there was the main rubber seal similar to the one on the right and then the small cap you've bought fits on the nose of the seal to give a bit more rigidity.
Ah just need a part number for the other bit now then.
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Local Volvo dealer ordering me some in ...................£3.60 :D
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Post Thu Jul 09, 2020 4:40 pm

Hi

Yes I have got mine now and although not the same as the BMW ones they are as flybynite shows. They are still better at keeping out water than the broken ones I had.
A lot cheaper than the ones offered to me from the facetwit page. :D
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Post Thu Jul 09, 2020 5:24 pm

yeah,so, i have these volvo seals fitted to my motors but i've also,because i had a few spare lying around, fitted a plastic grommet (51711932996) onto each shaft-they are a really tight fit-to act as first-line-of-defence against water.
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Post Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:52 pm

hennabm wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:50 pm
Lemon98 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:32 am
This is really useful to know about those volvo parts because I'm losing all of my washer fluid through a leak that seems to be right at the end of the nozzle on the passenger side.

The motors still work so would be nice to stop that leak and maybe replace the wiper arms themselves as the rubber is a bit tired after 30 years aha
That is likely to be the one way valve in the line behind the grille. I had this on one of mine as well.
On realoem the part number is 61661380464. 2 required - one for each side.

HLWW blades are 61631356734 - 4 required.
Ahh perfect thank you!! I was under the impression you couldn't buy the wipers from BMW anymore. Really appreciate the part numbers thanks so much :D
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Post Fri Jul 10, 2020 2:38 pm

Lemon98 wrote:
Fri Jul 10, 2020 12:52 pm
hennabm wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 1:50 pm
Lemon98 wrote:
Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:32 am
This is really useful to know about those volvo parts because I'm losing all of my washer fluid through a leak that seems to be right at the end of the nozzle on the passenger side.

The motors still work so would be nice to stop that leak and maybe replace the wiper arms themselves as the rubber is a bit tired after 30 years aha
That is likely to be the one way valve in the line behind the grille. I had this on one of mine as well.
On realoem the part number is 61661380464. 2 required - one for each side.

HLWW blades are 61631356734 - 4 required.
Ahh perfect thank you!! I was under the impression you couldn't buy the wipers from BMW anymore. Really appreciate the part numbers thanks so much :D
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw ... 631356734/