what happens if oil filter shatters to pieces in a e30s50b30

Fri Dec 30, 2011 10:49 am

thanks i understand i think you make more sense im just hoping for better and believing their crap . i can imagine trying to overtake a v tech on the m40 and this contraption of a bm would blow up !

Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:27 am

TouringTash wrote:can someone post a pic up showing the engine number location on a S50b30 engine for the OP please.

@Jim not pure theft. Theft, fraud AND deception, more to this than meets the eye.
Police involvment is NEVER a simple scenraio.
Is this a legal or lawful issue?
do you understand who even owns a car? Look at your docs for your car You are NOT the owner.
you/we are just the REGISTERED KEEPERS
do not take my word or that of ANYONE else. do your homework.
I'll start you with regius ex or as the state calls it registration.

the v5 is the registered keeper for sure,and the person responsible for the car day to day. the owner is the person with the receipt for purchase.
if he goes to the police with a v5 and insurance in his name thatll be enough for the police to look into it.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 11:49 am

guys i am putting out an appeal for help to put this car right i will do my best to pick it up , i need help to complete the build in the right way i now have a mountain to climb and willing to pay i'm not rich and will make payments in terms no tricks can enter a contractual agreement i cant let the car go to ruin i know i'm asking a lot but i hope somebody reaches out .
thanks

Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:23 pm

1st up you need to get your exhaust manifold and speak to BTB.. Then save up. There is about 15hrs of wiring to sort, plus god knows how much bodgery that can't been seen. It is not going to be cheap. If you were closer I'd be able to help.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:27 pm

i can try and get the car trailored to wherever i can get help and as long as i am allowed terms i will be ok as i cant pay it one go to be honest.

who is btb ?

Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:37 pm

http://www.btbexhausts.co.uk/

They offer the, as yet, only proven exhaust manifold setup for this swap. From the sounds of it, you need to find out the price, save up for it, then take the car somewhere to be finished on terms or however you can arrange to work it.

This is why, even if you aren't doing the work, you should at least have some understanding of what is required.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:53 pm

i agree i have been burned and hope other users here learn from my mistakes and not make the same .

Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:55 pm

from a trading standards point of view you can go down to recover the car. he can prevent you from recovering if you are flat out refusing to pay for any work done up to now but as you have paid £1700 up to date it then becomes a civil matter as to amounts outstanding so if you go down mob handed but peacefully to recover your stuff then even if he phones the police they wont stop you from recovering your property.in fact, if your planning to go down to recover its probably better to phone the police yourself to explain prior to going in and ask for them to attend as you fear he could turn nasty. its then up to him to persue you through civil courts for any money he thinks you owe but by the sounds of things i dont think hed bother.
assuming englands the same as scotland on these matters anyway.
once you have all your stuff back you can then sort him out how you see fit.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:07 pm

I believe that is how it works here also Fuzzy.. We've done that before.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:09 pm

i think it will end up that way !

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:23 pm

Engine looks a bit close to the rad for comfort.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:24 pm

guys from the pics that you saw which areas can you pin point as the bodges i have now called my solicitor wont take this mess now

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:26 pm

i cant help with whats a bodge and what isnt. i dont know what its meant to look like and what should or shouldnt be there.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:28 pm

^ Copyright of pointless posts r us inc.!

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:31 pm

Speedtouch wrote:^ Copyright of pointless posts r us inc.!

^ almost as pointless as this.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:44 pm

ok its fine i appreciate i just wanted to be armed with ideas of what i can pin point and say this and that . its just one hell of a mess i have to deal with at the end of the day just trying to gather as much data as i can

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:49 pm

i went up there to see their work and was bowled by the m50 turbo conversions they do ! so i asked if my e30 could be done ! but its just a heap of shyte i guess ! i appreciate the support and the input guys i'd do the same if shoe was on the other foot but don't wish this on none of you ,

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:51 pm

some of the guys familiar with this conversion will be able to pin point for you.
my familiarity is with cosworth conversions but ive been in the same position twice with 2 different shoddy "specialists".

who did the work?

Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:58 pm

i will tell you who once all both my cars are here

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:06 pm

so these m50 manifolds are they damaging my engine ? along with that hideous air filter ?

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:13 pm

guys listen to this diagnostic and laugh the problem was the pressure release valve in the oil filter housing ? i'm a social worker and ex cop i can smell bs when i hear it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:13 pm

not damaging it, but it won't make anywhere near the proper power with that manifold fitted, the S50 engines need the equal length headers and the x pipe to make the power. I'd doubt they have even fitted up both lambdas either

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:14 pm

Air fliter is too small, wrong exhaust, wiring looks shoddy and the ECU should definitely not be mounted on the inner wing!
God knows whats happened with the brakes or coolant pipework but its not likely to be any good looking at the above pics.
Basically, as has been said previous, it looks like you will need at least £3k to get it to a 'basic' acceptable standard

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:15 pm

Pressure relief valve is not in the filter housing....

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:16 pm

So have they got it running again?

+1 on the manifold, id be suprised if it made 250hp with that M50 effort fitted.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:31 pm

I thought the M50 manifold doesn't line up with the S50 exhaust ports.

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:33 pm

oh dear the engine was striped and checked this am and its fine ( from what i hear ) apparently the oil filter pressure valve failed and caused all this so now im waiting to hear if it runs so i can get it home then get it properly done . and just buy another car for the time being i guess .

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:34 pm

The stud pattern is the same but the manifold ports are a lot smaller than the ports in the head, the exhaust gases are literally hitting a wall when they leave the head. Probably 30-40% smaller

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:36 pm

well roadhazard this one has been bewitched and made to fit some how now my concern is if only it gets home even on 110 bhp then i can start afresh

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:38 pm

dan i need your help bro can we work out something ?

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:43 pm

The whole thing looks an epic bodgefest..

What engine mounts have been used?

Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:47 pm

they must be e28 m5 mounts not sure now even if they bothered with those

Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:00 pm

will that ecu catch fire if i drive that thing coming home ? its a 100 miles from my house ! not sure if its even safe ! i am worried sick

Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:18 pm

i will have to try and get it sorted as i loved my m3 a lot and it deserved better than i gave in the end i feel like judas now . it was the car that got my little boy from hospital day he was born!

Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:20 pm

The problem with the ecu is that it was designed to be housed inside the cabin along with the other black box above it which i think is the vanos controler. These use non waterproof connectors and wont respond well to getting wet.

It all looks a bit thrown together in the easiest manner but should be sortable once you get it back. I think i would be looking to get all the other leftovers back from the M3 too so you have all the parts you may need and can ebay off whats not required to fund getting this put right.

good luck with it, They make awesome fun cars. wish i still had mine.