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crazyenglishman
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Ok im looking for some new engine mounts as since welding my diff and fitting adjustable suspension its shown them as a major weak point.
Im after some harsh and affective ones as i use the car for drift days.
So anyone got any ideas?
Cost?
Were?
And most of all which ones do i need?
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I got poly ones from here >> http://www.bmw2002.com/
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$90 plus p+p for two is that good in english money?
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OK, me again :D
I can show you an incredible costeffective solution. approx £10. Interessted?
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Costeffective im all ears
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OK, me again
I can show you an incredible costeffective solution. approx £10. Interessted?

im in !!!
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Sun Feb 10, 2008 7:32 pm

crazyenglishman wrote:Ok im looking for some new engine mounts as since welding my diff and fitting adjustable suspension its shown them as a major weak point.
Im after some harsh and affective ones as i use the car for drift days.
So anyone got any ideas?
Cost?
Were?
And most of all which ones do i need?
Thanks wayne
Omg you welded your diff, you crazy crazy man, do you realise that it will try to kill you at every available oppurtunity.

I was gonna go for ireland engineering gear, but im listening :D
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A little understeer
Nothing i cant handle :D
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ice hockey pucks! £1 each --> 6 required plus a high tensile bolt each side an double nutted on top.
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Very very interesting :cool:
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UweM3 wrote:ice hockey pucks! £1 each --> 6 required plus a high tensile bolt each side an double nutted on top.
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are you mad !!!!

so if this is not a silly question uwe what do they feel like ie like solid ones , standard ones , polly ones ??

thanks

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ireland engineering are fine so far with my m5 lump

with just one on the drivers side almost no noise increase and greatly reduced engine movement

with both on movement reduced further-almost nil but there was a noise increase

i might put my passenger side one back to stock, as mines a road car
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ireland engineering are fine so far with my m5 lump
are these solid ones ?
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As long as they are strong i would be happy, had a pair of standard mounts let go be4 and it caused me a massive headache dont want it happening again
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My engine moves NIL. Vibrations are more but not unbearable. Bonnet shakes a little at idle, but keep in mind I am having a S14 under my bonnet not a silky smooth 6 pot. I have been to the Ring 3 times and sveral UK trackdays without any problem. I actually haven't invented this, DaveG runs them since donkey's years.
So what's wrong, is that too cheap? do you rather spend 10 times the money only to "XY engineering" under you bonnet?
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Sun Feb 10, 2008 9:10 pm

Uwe that is brilliant! :o :D

i take it you just cut the one in the middle to size using the old mount as i guide? there's no reason this wouldn't work on a 318is is there?
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Take it u just drilled out a hole and used one long bolt, did u sleeve it?
Rubber pucks or soild plastic ones?
Im gonna give these ago
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These are bog standard ice hockey pucks bought on Ebay. Middle one put on a lathe and cut down to size.
Hole drilled int he centre on lathe as well. A 3mm stainless steel plate on top and bottom to stop the engine mount to wear in the rubber. One long M10 bolt inserted from bottom (yes I know the wrong way, but wasn't sure about height and if I need to remove didn't want to take the engien mount off) and double nutted on top with some tread lock.

Word of warning, do not tighten them up too much, just nip'em up and double nut. Otherwise your n** will fall of from the vibtrations :D

Not sleeved, just through the rubber. They are quite tough.
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hmm.. wonder how they would be under my donk!
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Uwe, you are a complete legend mate :cool: I have e28 M5 ones on mine, engine is solid although my wallet was hurt after the purchase.
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Guys....Just to confirm Uwe's not mad at all. I use these on my E30 M3. I have done this using the Ice hockey puks, I also put sikaflex between each one (place a large weight on them overnight), this stops any unwanted sideways flex....

You'd be daft spending 10x on anything else

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Dan318-is wrote:Uwe, you are a complete legend mate :cool: I have e28 M5 ones on mine, engine is solid although my wallet was hurt after the purchase.
This in NOT my brainchild. I have copied this setup from GaveG's track M3
I have stuck them together with Superglue
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Can you do this on all three engine mounts ? are there even three ?

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3 engine mounts :?
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3 engine mounts

all right jamie !

so where are they then !
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I thought there was 2 engine mounts and 2 gearbox mounts...
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right thanks that all i needed to know cheers jamie
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Gonna do mine as soon as i can locate some pucks, What about gear box mounts any ideas?
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http://www.thehockeystop.co.uk/acatalog ... ories.html

6th item down, a whopping 84p each (+vat) i assume these would do the job?

Uwe, do you have a total length to make the 'mount' and length of bolt i will need? or is it a case of taking a mount of and measuring it which is a bit more of a pain when you're using the car every day. :D
cheers,

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Hrm min order £10
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Hrm min order £10

well ill go in on the order with ya then
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agreen wrote:
Hrm min order £10

well ill go in on the order with ya then
Works out £20.79 for 12 pucks deliverd gonna see what the local sports shop does them for as i will have to post them on to you aswell
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do u not get a nasty vibration when the engine twists and u get metal on metal buzzing where the nut/bolt join the subframe? then again i guess u have an s14 so it does that neway :mad:
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Works out £20.79 for 12 pucks deliverd gonna see what the local sports shop does them for as i will have to post them on to you aswell
sup to you tbh its cheaper than me going out buying some etc if ya wanna go ahead then i am sure i could stick the postage on and send the monies over to ya mate
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agreen wrote:
Works out £20.79 for 12 pucks deliverd gonna see what the local sports shop does them for as i will have to post them on to you aswell
sup to you tbh its cheaper than me going out buying some etc if ya wanna go ahead then i am sure i could stick the postage on and send the monies over to ya mate
Will defo keep u posted mate as if i find them in my local shop i could grab u some and then u will only pay postage once
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