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Mon Mar 12, 2012 10:45 pm

How we doing on this gunni mate, did everyone pay up?
M50 Turbo!!! :o I shall say no more :D
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Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:18 pm

Anybody spoke to him the past couple of days, he Normaly replies to my emails quick smart but haven't had a reply for a couple days.
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Tue Mar 13, 2012 12:23 pm

^^ he'll be busy dude.
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Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:32 pm

Yeah i thought he may be with all the ecu's he's doing.
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Tue Mar 13, 2012 10:53 pm

Everybody paid up, it´s all been ordered ..
With great challenges comes great engineering.

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Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:19 pm

Delivery to me is next week so I´ll be shipping them out before the end of next week.

I´m going to update the M50 base map to work with M20 and M30´s, please let me know if you have single coil or wasted spark for your m20 or m30´s.
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Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:39 pm

Here are some links for the new users.

WATCH ALL THE VIDEOS IN THE FIRST POST OF THIS THREAD IT´S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT

Wiring help
http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page= ... FUserGuide

E30tech vems thread
http://www.e30tech.com/forum/showthread.php?t=13687

Latest software
http://www.vems.hu/download/VemsTune/NI ... -03-01.exe

Baselines
M50 Non vanos - http://www.vems.hu/files/Baselines/Base ... ut.vemscfg
M20/30 Single coil - http://www.vems.hu/files/Baselines/M20% ... il.vemscfg
M20/30 wasted spark - http://www.vems.hu/files/Baselines/M20% ... rk.vemscfg


Some ignition timing adjustments may be needed as the timing gear on the front of the engine can actually move which would render a basemap incorrect, must be checked with a timing light.
The reference adjustment can be found in
Base setup - Primary trigger settings - TDC after the trigger.
The TDC MUST be verified by putting a screwdriver into the engine to find the pistons TDC position and mark the timing gear. Otherwise if being off won´t be caught. This is unlikely but a warning I´ve helped one guy before who´s trigger was well off.


The ignition for the M20 and M30 I have used to 1.5bar boost on a 8.8:1 compression engine so should suit everybody for a start.
The M50 baseline is a modified improved M50B25 map that I have tuned to 1bar boost. But has been safely used to 1.3bar boost (lots of wheelspin though, owner is making north of 500lbs torque probably).

Few tips for those who are doing their own wiring

ETM - Electronic Troubleshooting Manuals
http://wedophones.com/BMWManualsLead.htm
find the one relating to your vehicle.

From C101 or X20 ,

Green - 12v for the ecu - 36/15 on the VEMS
Black - Tacho from the ecu 18/4 on the VEMS
You can wire in your speed signal if it´s there, might need a pullup to 5v for the VEMS to see it clearly all the time(I´ve never wired it though)
Fuel econometer signal is not used.
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All grounds (Brown wires on BMW´s of this era)
Should be soldered into a single joint like the userguide suggests. Like so.

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While in VEMSTune you can hit F1 key for help almost all the time. Use this well.
I think it´s best if we keep all questions and answers to this thread. When asking more then one question number them and I will reply in a numbered fashion.
i.e

Q

1. Where do I change the revlimit?

2. How do I wire the main relay?


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1. The revlimit is in Base setup - Revlimit... : Fuel cut rpm limit
2. On these BMW´s the main relay is powered by a brown grounding wire which according to the basemaps is wired to EC36/16 , you can find all the current outputs in : Outputs - Output channels, there you can find the pin number as well.

By doing it like this it will be easier for everybody to keep track of questions and answers and stops repeated questions. As it´s almost certain that most will have the same questions as everybody is new to VEMS and probably ecu wiring as well.

I´m going to pickup the ecu´s tomorrow so I´d reccomend people start looking at their basemaps and start asking questions.
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Thu Mar 29, 2012 10:50 pm

Packages are being sent out on Monday as I must go to Brands Hatch tomorrow and Saturday for work. They are all packed up though,.

Please send me your shipping address if you haven´t done so already.
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Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:52 pm

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Cheers Gunni mate, the VEMS arrived safe and sound this morning.......

I opened the box, took a quick look and thought WTF, If I try and wire that up, i'll probably end up setting off a nuke in Japan :mad:

So it looks like i'll be needing someone to wire it up and unleash the full potential winkeye

hmmmm wonder who could do that :wink:
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Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:08 pm

craigieeb wrote::thumb:

Cheers Gunni mate, the VEMS arrived safe and sound this morning.......

I opened the box, took a quick look and thought WTF, If I try and wire that up, i'll probably end up setting off a nuke in Japan :mad:

So it looks like i'll be needing someone to wire it up and unleash the full potential winkeye

hmmmm wonder who could do that :wink:
Lol for this same reason I am getting Gunni to modify my loom for VEMS!
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Wed Apr 04, 2012 8:14 pm

Andeep wrote:
craigieeb wrote::thumb:

Cheers Gunni mate, the VEMS arrived safe and sound this morning.......

I opened the box, took a quick look and thought WTF, If I try and wire that up, i'll probably end up setting off a nuke in Japan :mad:

So it looks like i'll be needing someone to wire it up and unleash the full potential winkeye

hmmmm wonder who could do that :wink:
Lol for this same reason I am getting Gunni to modify my loom for VEMS!
+1 ... I dont think i'l even try to attempt to wire it up
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sag wrote:
Andeep wrote:
craigieeb wrote::thumb:

Cheers Gunni mate, the VEMS arrived safe and sound this morning.......

I opened the box, took a quick look and thought WTF, If I try and wire that up, i'll probably end up setting off a nuke in Japan :mad:

So it looks like i'll be needing someone to wire it up and unleash the full potential winkeye

hmmmm wonder who could do that :wink:
Lol for this same reason I am getting Gunni to modify my loom for VEMS!
+1 ... I dont think i'l even try to attempt to wire it up


Now reading this link it is not as bad as i first thought


Wiring help http://www.vems.hu/wiki/in ... UserGuide
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Thu Apr 05, 2012 11:47 am

my VEMS arrived safe n sound too! exciting stuff!!

my first questions of many im sure

Q1 Has this vems controller got the 30v flyback diode built in?

Q2 Are these rescue kits needed or are they spares if things go BANG!!?
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Thu Apr 05, 2012 6:36 pm

I haven't got mine yet. :(
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dot wrote:my VEMS arrived safe n sound too! exciting stuff!!

my first questions of many im sure

Q1 Has this vems controller got the 30v flyback diode built in?

Q2 Are these rescue kits needed or are they spares if things go BANG!!?
1. Yes
2. Not really needed

badassyas wrote:I haven't got mine yet. :(
Sorry about yours, it missed getting shipped in the batch as I didn´t have your address at the time.Totally my fault, yours goes out on tuesday should be be with you on wednesday
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Thu Apr 05, 2012 10:20 pm

No worries dude. Just fancied sharing everyone else's joy and wtf! When opening it up lol.
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Fri Apr 20, 2012 7:53 pm

Hello all! I have another question may be a stupid 1, how exactly do I load the base map you have provided? When I click it it opens a page up with settings I think, do these have to be set manually?

Im not actually at the stage of fitting it yet just get myself up to speed,I thought people would be firing question all over the shop!!!
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Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:30 pm

Whats the best way to control the boost with this ECU set up?
electronic (like an N75) ?
or just a manual valve?

also how does it connect to the Vems.... from the wastegate or fron a valve :mad:

cheers
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bump
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Thu May 09, 2013 8:37 pm

any chance of another one of these group buys in the near future ?
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I guess if enough people are interested then sure it´s possible.
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Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:51 am

yea if there was another group buy then count me in on it,
i take it VEMS would be ok on a Twin turbo M60 gunni?
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Count me in also
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yeah i would be interested too
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