Who will fit an e36 m3 engine in an e30?? companies??

[bmwonly]

With my last idea falling through and completely having the buzz for doing this i need some more info.
Basiclly i dont have the time to the engine work, but i got the time to source the parts and got a bit of spare cash.

The car is going to be a touring, i currently a solid example but i am looking around for 1 with the kit already on with good body work.

I need to speak to some1 about fitting the engine. i'm not bothered if it a tip top bmw company or joe bloggs down the road. As long as they do the job properly.

Can any1 point me in the right direction???

[brian325i]

piston heads,zoner is selling a touring with e36 m3 engine,mint car

[bmwonly]

would it be the blue 1 thats sold?? was close to a tear when i missed out on that. if not tell me more

[DanThe]

As above, no way you would build one for the price he is selling his for

[Kos]

CPC, phil crouch the owner could be tempted to do one for you
01895 252288

[bmwonly]

l'll bell him tomorrow see if he's interested in doing something

[Jhonno]

its a 6k conversion to diy.. i'd cry if i heard a quote for someone doing it for me.

[bmwonly]

I cant see where every1 is getting this 6 grand from??
1500 to 2500 engine loom ecu.
100 squid for 328 gear box
500 exhaust.
1000 for bits and bobs.
wheres the othe 2- 2500 grand gone???

[Chris-W]

Labour?

[Jhonno]

diff..?

prop?

sump etc?

manifold work is expensive, 1k in 'our' case, exhaust - no e30 one will fit and work, custom only..

1k for bits and bobs.. well ive spent prob nearly double that

labour its gonna be a week or 2's work @50/hr min

servo/brake solution?

i walked into this thinking 6k was rubbish.. i now know better

[jmc330i]

wheres the othe 2- 2500 grand gone???

Labour and all the other bits that need uprating to cope - brakes, suspension etc etc. A conversion like this isnt just a case of slapping an engine in and driving away.

6k is about right for DIY, like Jhonno said, you think it will be less but it soon all adds up

I seem to remember quotes for 9k-10k when I asked a few places

[ste]

Yep those costs certainly add up...

[snoops]

[Ant]

Scary innit !

and you still end up with a S/hand engine that may, or may not be up for the job.

Many people on here have been burned by this conversion, I'd not hand over a penny for any engine unless I could hear it running.

[Jhonno]

Scary innit !

and you still end up with a S/hand engine that may, or may not be up for the job.

Many people on here have been burned by this conversion, I'd not hand over a penny for any engine unless I could hear it running.

*puts hand up*

Never buy an engine you havent heard running at this price..

[ste]

also puts hand up...

Mine is sorted now and turned out to be something silly but I totally agree Ant.

[DanThe]

What was it Ste?

[bmwonly]

Ya cant really cost labour charge in a diy job.
And £50 an hour? Is that a real charge or a guessed 1?? I dont charge that and my unit and running costs are massive. If yes is the case i recon i'll do the converstion myself so i know the in's and out's then charge to do it. could fit in nice when i have quite spots.

diff..?

I thought the diff was E30??

I see what ya all sayin now though. the extra bit n bobs gonna add up.

I take it all back 6g does sound bout right

May be i'll just stick with the good olde 2.5 lump and me touring shitter.

[Jhonno]

Yeah £50 an hr is a good indy/garage rate.. That is the costs tho, believe us, there are 5 or 6 people on the forum who have done it now and its always worked out about the same £Â£

Diff is an e30 m3 diff.. Rare and expensive

People have been quoted before and 9/10k is about right for someone to do it for you, its not an easy conversion at all

[Cabrio]

You can try the E30 centre in Wolverhampton as they will also have all the parts to do the conversion which will save some £Â£Ã‚£Ã‚£ cheers

[bmwonly]

Bit far, but do you have a number??

[Kos]

being a project and that its a never simple !"drive in drive" concersion at times , stanadrd labour rates do drop especailly if its a fill in long term job.

also, a competant garage will need the correct diagnostic equipment to see what what on these engines and ecu. doing the wiring can atke up a lot of time, depending how you want it done.

the car phil (CPC ) did was for a bloke on here, called Mfree there is a thred on it some where. his loom was shortened to fit under the normal wiring cover in an e30 to look ar factory as posible

[DanThe]

Ya cant really cost labour charge in a diy job.
And £50 an hour? Is that a real charge or a guessed 1?? I dont charge that and my unit and running costs are massive. If yes is the case i recon i'll do the converstion myself so i know the in's and out's then charge to do it. could fit in nice when i have quite spots.

I see what ya all sayin now though. the extra bit n bobs gonna add up.

I take it all back 6g does sound bout right

May be i'll just stick with the good olde 2.5 lump and me touring shitter.

So you have your own business? Then why would you want to pay someone to do the work?

Loving the combination of text talk and old english

[jmc330i]

I take it all back 6g does sound bout right

May be i'll just stick with the good olde 2.5 lump and me touring shitter.

M50/M52 conversion maybe???

[ste]

the car phil (CPC ) did was for a bloke on here, called Mfree there is a thred on it some where. his loom was shortened to fit under the normal wiring cover in an e30 to look ar factory as posible

Totally unnecessary. My loom wasn't shortened and still went under the standard 4-pot cover and the ECU is in the correct E30 place and looks 100% factory.

What was it Ste?

No woodruff key!!!

The crank damper pulley was attached to the dowelled pulley fine, the problem was that was in a random position and it was a complete fluke it ran at all. Key fitted and the pulleys back on it works perfectly. Why the key had been removed I do not know...


As for £6k to do the conversion, maybe, even more so with an S50. I reckon I've spent nearer to £2k by cunning buying and selling bits along the way. That includes fitting Sport leather, 4 pots, coilovers and the wheels etc.. I'm a tight Northern monkey though.

[fuzzy]

up here its more like £20+ an hour for the sort of little garages that would tackle this sort of work. the guy that does all my work is exactly £20 an hour .

[bmwonly]

Ya cant really cost labour charge in a diy job.
And £50 an hour? Is that a real charge or a guessed 1?? I dont charge that and my unit and running costs are massive. If yes is the case i recon i'll do the converstion myself so i know the in's and out's then charge to do it. could fit in nice when i have quite spots.

I see what ya all sayin now though. the extra bit n bobs gonna add up.

I take it all back 6g does sound bout right

May be i'll just stick with the good olde 2.5 lump and me touring shitter.

So you have your own business? Then why would you want to pay someone to do the work?

Loving the combination of text talk and old english

It's not a garage though. Could prob build one of those MDF land rovers. But my works up n down so get free spaces.

As for the typin thing i'd call it a short hand for computers, quick to type and easy to read. Maybe. or maybe i'm talkin bollox.
ha

[bootyman]

I think with any mods, there are always hidden cost that you dont account for in the begining. Whatever you think it will cost you, you should always double it and chances are, you will need it all. I cant think of a single thing which has come in on budget on my car apart from the couple of things i've bought in a shop and not had fabricated.

I dont know if he's telling porkies, but a old friend of mine has a E36 cab and he got a 3.2 Evo lump fitted for just over £3k including parts and labour. He said the guy was interested in doing a conversion for me for the same price as my car like his car, was going to be featured and it was free publicity for him. I was really tempted, but opted on the twin turbo in the end because i wasnt keen on giving my car to someone up north i didnt know for weeks. That and the fact that i'm sure the engine would be a lot simpler to fit in a E36 than a E30 and even though they said they had done a couple in a E30 before, i didnt believe them.

[Kos]

the car phil (CPC ) did was for a bloke on here, called Mfree there is a thred on it some where. his loom was shortened to fit under the normal wiring cover in an e30 to look ar factory as posible

Totally unnecessary. My loom wasn't shortened and still went under the standard 4-pot cover and the ECU is in the correct E30 place and looks 100% factory.

i know ian332i has the original e36 m3 loom and trunking etc on his car (he did last time i saw it ) ans the owner of this car Mfree wasnt keen on it.

anyway i'm not a wiring or auto electric person, so i stay well out of these things. what i'd like to see is a smoothed engine bay like they do in the VW's

[ste]

anyway i'm not a wiring or auto electric person, so i stay well out of these things. what i'd like to see is a smoothed engine bay like they do in the VW's

I'm crap with wiring too - Ian sorted the loom on my car and I squeezed it under the 4-pot cover.

I'd love a smoothed bay. I've removed a few things but would love the time to do it properly.

[Kos]

anyway i'm not a wiring or auto electric person, so i stay well out of these things. what i'd like to see is a smoothed engine bay like they do in the VW's

I'm crap with wiring too - Ian sorted the loom on my car and I squeezed it under the 4-pot cover.

I'd love a smoothed bay. I've removed a few things but would love the time to do it properly.

i did think about it on the m3 i'm building but i can see it cracking and not lasting. seen a few of the westside cars over the years which have had it done, but their cars are near enough show only, where as i plan to use the M3 as much as posible, and drive it hard.

lost a few things from the engine bay, brackets which are nnot needed and studs etc, thats as far as i'll take it.

[Colonel Sanders]

up here its more like £20+ an hour for the sort of little garages that would tackle this sort of work. the guy that does all my work is exactly £20 an hour .

thats cheap, my local bmw garage is almost 200 quid an hour!!!!!

[ian332isport]

I dont know if he's telling porkies, but a old friend of mine has a E36 cab and he got a 3.2 Evo lump fitted for just over £3k including parts and labour.

Fitting an S50 M3 lump into another E36 is basically a straight swap, and the wiring is plug 'n' play. Fitting it in an E30, is a whole different prospect. It's easy enough to get the basic lump sitting in the bay on it's mounts, but getting it hooked up and running is a huge amount of extra work.

Ian.

[jmc330i]

what i'd like to see is a smoothed engine bay like they do in the VW's

[Kos]

oooh, i like that

mine will be similar i hope, one thing i didnt do was weld up the holes on the trays behind the headlamps.