My S50 swap.. Progress and questions

[Jhonno]

Thinkin about it, 6 weeks aint too bad.. Just disappointing due to the rush of getting it done

Oh well if i have everything done other than the exhaust by the end of next week, should be all cool..

[appletree]

Thats some pace your working at!! what did you do about the engine mounts? have you got pics/thread on fitting the engine??

[jmc330i]

what did you do about the engine mounts?

Its all genuine BMW stuff to fit this engine (and the M50s). E36 alloy mounting arms and E28 rubber mounts.

[Jhonno]

I used the e36 alloy arms with e28 M5 rubber engine mounts

[Jhonno]

which fuel line is the feed and which the return on the S50 side of things? im assuming the filter is on the feed side on the e30 side of things..

[e30bmlover]

i love it! another s50 conversion! she looks sweet. you gotta post up a sound clip of her when she's running, would love to hear her speak! good luck.

[jmc330i]

which fuel line is the feed and which the return on the S50 side of things? im assuming the filter is on the feed side on the e30 side of things..

Im always getting confused over this

IIRC the filter is on the feed side and goes direct to the fuel rail, the pressure reg is on the return side of things.

I got it right first time when I needed to start the S50, but that was more luck than anything else.

[Jhonno]

rad arrived today.. do you have to use an e36 passengers side mount for it? sits perfectly in the drivers but needs a shorter passengers from the look of it (tryin to look it up on realoem.com atm)

[buster]

no,use 2 e30 drivers side mounts.

[Jhonno]

ahh genuis cheers..

scrappy tomorrow then!!

Can/how do you remove them? Cant seem to work it out atm

[buster]

its just a small plastic seat which clips in.
The drivers side mount is the long one, you just pull it up from the end and it comes off.Then you just pop the new seat in.

number 6.Use one on each end.the longer one is 120mm long which is fitted to the m20 engined e30's

http://realoem.com/bmw/showparts.do?mod ... g=17&fg=05

[Jhonno]

Cool, i'll give it a little more welly then..

just waiting on my oil cooler to turn up and the wiring diagrams from Ian then it'll run at least..

manifold and servo still to sort ooo and air filter

[ian332isport]

just waiting on my oil cooler to turn up and the wiring diagrams from Ian then it'll run at least..

Doh!!

I knew there was something I had to do

Ian.

[Demlotcrew]

No way that I'm aware of.

Check to see if the Vin is on the ECU.

Andrew

[bigpimpin]

Ahh, brings back fond memories!

Think everything has been answered by the zone guru's.
On the coolant side I used M20 Header tank, E36 top and bottom hoses and I got a new E36 M3 Evo rad so I could fit the temp switch into it. My E30 M3 fan is wired direct to the battery via the temp switch.

I'w well hacked off as I put loads of effort into finishing my touring and I'm still waiting for that twat to come back with my tailgate/bonnet/tech2 front and rear bits. Its so pissing off looking at it just sitting doing nothing.

Anyway good luck with the rest of the build.....its well worth it

[Jhonno]

what have people done bout hose from back of the engine to the header?

shit reminds me talking bout cooling.. need to pick up my silicon hoses for the heater matrix.. that'll be a fun job i reckon

[Jhonno]

just waiting on my oil cooler to turn up and the wiring diagrams from Ian then it'll run at least..

Doh!!

I knew there was something I had to do

Ian.

No worries dude

[bigpimpin]

what have people done bout hose from back of the engine to the header?

I cobbled together some bits of E30 and E36 hose. I'm pretty sure you can buy that size of hose by the meter though.

[Gunni]

what have people done bout hose from back of the engine to the header?

shit reminds me talking bout cooling.. need to pick up my silicon hoses for the heater matrix.. that'll be a fun job i reckon

On my latest attemp to perfect my conversion I removed the pipe completely, I built a new pipe from the water pump that hose connected to and plugged it into the coolant expansion tank wich was on the radiator
itԚ´s the cleanest way possible, no expansion tank anywhere except the rad one,

I belive I used a cut up M40 hose to get the right bends and angles for the hose,

[Bat-Fink]

cool project.

[bmw13fr]

hi,

good job ;)

how do you do for put the brake servo ?
(he touches the intake manifold)

thxx

ps: sorry for my english ;)

[Jhonno]

not sure what im doing about it yet. May use a small servo moved across or a manual setup or i have the hydraulic servo setup off a 7 series sat in my garage..

[Jhonno]

Was gonna do more work to it today, but its pissing with rain atm

[jaistanley]

On the subject of cooling:

I need a radiator and piping. Before I get the ones from an E36M3 I was considering an E36 325i radiator (much cheaper and easier to find at the scrappies for a start). This has the header tank built into the rad.

Is this possible? How would I pipe it? I'm sure the rad has the cooling ability.

Jai

[Jhonno]

i wasnt sure bout the rad, did comtemplate a 325i e36 one myself.. ended up getting a nearly new 325tds one for Ԛ£32 delivered.. its same size as the m3 one..

[Jhonno]

which type of slave cylinder should be fitted to an m3 box?

i fucked the one i'd put in there when i put fluid in it.. pressed the clutch when it was out the box and the end popped out n wouldnt go back in.. but then found another one i was supplied when i bought the engine n box...

which one should it be..

Option A)



Option B)

[buster]

i used the m3 one.Cant remember what it looks like

[jmc330i]

i used the m3 one.Cant remember what it looks like

So did I - the M3 5spd one.

'A' looks familier, but I couldnt say for sure, its been ages since I fitted it.

[buster]

i used the m3 one.Cant remember what it looks like

So did I - the M3 5spd one.

'A' looks familier, but I couldnt say for sure, its been ages since I fitted it.

yeah,id say A looks like mine also.

[Gunni]

use the stock one or a E36 one, just make sure itԚ´s the right diameter otherwise the clutch might be to stiff,
Mine was and I liked it ,

[jaistanley]

Sorry to keep harping on..

Is there a sollution for using one of these rads with the header tank built in (a la 325i E36)? I'd like to save space/make the engine bay neat so they look like a good idea. I'm sure they'll cool enough (pretty sure)

Many thanks.

Jai

[buster]

Sorry to keep harping on..

Is there a sollution for using one of these rads with the header tank built in (a la 325i E36)? I'd like to save space/make the engine bay neat so they look like a good idea. I'm sure they'll cool enough (pretty sure)

Many thanks.

Jai

i think because most have used the m3 rad nobody knows, so im affraid the only way to know is to try it .

[Jhonno]

Right having gone out n washed the E30 the other week i actually went about getting on with this again today..

Got a few questions now tho.. The heater matrix/Y pipes does it matter what direction they are plumbed up? Ie does the top matrix pipe have to go to the Y pipe etc?

When ppl talk about turning the wiring round in order to fit the ecu in its original place, i assume they have to mod the wire cover (standard e36 m3 one..)

what size spacer are people using with the e36 rack conversion? Mine is 13mm n doesnt reach quite far enough.. I'd say it needed another 5mm or so

how did people extend the oil drain piping? its flared at the y pipe end..

errrrr think that might be it other than a couple of random connectors i need identifying but need to get pics of them.

Cheers guys..

Just the brake solution to decide on now then...

[Jhonno]

also, whats the best way to remove the pins from the e30 engine loom plug? cant seem to work it out

[Brianmoooore]

Heater must flow in at the bottom and out at the top. Tee hose to top.