m60 swap ( UPDATE 29.04.07)

[bigpimpin]

Jeez thats got some bark Dek !

How many boxes have you got on the system?......think I might get the hacksaw out !

[bigdek]

Just one straight through on each system

[gareth]

that sounds evil!!!

[oze30]

Did you make a crossover pipe from each bank? or is it a single 4 pipes into 1 then 2 pipes to the exit?

[bigdek]

no crossover just one system for each side

[oze30]

Is there enough room to make a crossover? Apparently its needed to make the exhaust gasses scavenge properly and to equalise the banks. (That's what I was looking into when doing a chev into a jeep. Apparently produces more torque??)

[bigdek]

well the original exhaust on the 740 i pillaged didn't have a crossover so i'm guessing its not needed

[Turbo-Brown]

Interesting that the original one didn't have the cross, I too have read that the cross useful for increasing torque, also makes it a little bit quieter I seem to recall.

Doesn't need to be anything fancy or streamlines, just a pipe at 90degrees to the other two seems to be sufficient

[bigdek]

Cooling side of things is now sorted .


Used an e34 535 rad but the e28 one would have been better as the top hose is pretty much trying to occupy the same space as the oil filter housing ( this will be changed in the future)

Aircon fan from my 740 breaker is fitted and wired up awaiting my thermostic fan switch which i will have in a couple of days .

Not driven it yet but seems to be cooling fine

Lack of space for the brake servo is definately the biggest headache on this conversion .

Rather than going down the route that a few peeps have done and mount the servo behind the nearside headlight

i am mounting the servo inside the car where the glove box is .

i will lose the funcionality of the glove box but it'll look like its ok .

i never use them anyway so not a problem .

So far i have moved the original hole in the bulkhead across by about 60mm .

i am using a mk2 1.3 golf servo with the original e30 master cylinder .

A bit of bashing the bulkhead with a hammer and it sits in place fine.

Master cylinder passes along the side of the engine bank with ok clearance .

Just need to alter the mounts on the mechanisim and alter the pullrod slightly neither of which look like being much of a problem .

Once this is done only a few little bit and bobs to sort out and its MOT time.

Then i will upgrade the brakes and suspension .

[glenn]

i am mounting the servo inside the car where the glove box is .

excellent idea derek
it was an idea that ant (iirc?) suggested early into my s62 conversion.
that will be your biggest headache out of the way.

[Gravy]

Hmm, sound sinteresting, the brakes were/are my biggest concern too - looking forward to seeing the results when its done!

[Andy335Touring]

Nice work dude, sounds like it won't be long now

[gareth]

cunning! i like it!

[deian]

Why don't you see if all hydraulic brakes from a Citroen XM is possible. One day when I do a conversion, I will look into this hydraulic brakes idea as I know the Citroen hydraulic system really well now. May even go for the whole suspension system, it works REALLY well for me here.

[gareth]

shitroen hydraulics use a funny fluid that's not campatible with anything else on the planet.

[deian]

Not really the case, it's just a mineral oil. Anything else just isn't compatible with the citroen hydraulics, not the other way round. It's not about the fluid in this case, it's purely the idea of not using a servo but instead of using flow distributors on the output of the power steering pump to feed the brake circuit, you apply the brakes by pushing the brake pedal... which underneath it has a valve that opens for the fluid to go into the calipers, i.e not a link to the servo.

Very simple stuff that works. I believe Rolls Royce, Land Rover, Mercedes-Benz have used a Citroen designed brakes/suspension in their cars. I may go as far to say that BMW have probably used a Citroen idea with the self levelling suspension (e34 M5), which probably needed LHM type oil to work.

It's just an idea mind, I wasn't asked to be flamed here, the guy doesn't have the space for a servo so I suggested an idea. I'm sure we aren't ALL stuck to BMW cars and have some experience of other car brands. We must do if we know enough to do engine conversions. It just so happens that I appreciate Citroen as well as BMW.

[gareth]

there was no flaming in any direction mate. just worth pointing out that the system will need some thought as to the fluid that needs to be used.

i too appreciate citroens, a 16V BX GTi gave me a lovely Mi16 lump for my 205 gti

i do love their pure wierdness! it's just the standard of engineering that annoys me!

[deian]

ok gareth, no worries. I agree about the fluid bit, mechanically it would work with re-routing new pipes/valves etc, but as for powering the steering, not sure how it would work with the ram.

[jimmy]

Well the suspention/steering on my e34 M5 used that very oil so I guess you could sort something out with it.