My S50 conversion.Done !

[old_skool]

Cool,

Look forward to an update tomorrow then Andy

Are you looking forward to getting it back on the road for the summer? Can't wait to see the car. It's about time you planned a road trip down here to supervise my wiring.

[nikos]

go to this http://www.theeurodepot.com/e30m50.html and you will find most of the answers you need

[Brianmoooore]

go to this http://www.theeurodepot.com/e30m50.html and you will find most of the answers you need

You'll find better info in the archives of the zone!

[buster]

Cool,

Look forward to an update tomorrow then Andy

Are you looking forward to getting it back on the road for the summer? Can't wait to see the car. It's about time you planned a road trip down here to supervise my wiring.

I hope to be on the road asap but with no wheels its sat on axle stands
I've got 2, 4 stud wheels on the back and 2, 5 stud hubs on the front and no 5 stud wheels.So until i get the wheels,it aint going no where.
Also got no car at the moment as i blew the gearbox on my range rover trying to get out of this :





So im buggered at the mo
Once its done im up for a trip down your way for sure,would also like to get together with Ian.

cheers,
andy

[old_skool]

Fook me!

That is proper stuck - fair play!

[buster]

Fook me!

That is proper stuck - fair play!

I've been through water over the bonnet before but that stuff was proper bog !! it just sank.It was deeper further forward but drove it back to where it conked out as i think driving backwards filled the exhaust and caused it to stall.The engine was up to its rocker covers in water
The mats in the footwells were floating !! Been cleaning the mud out of the relays which are under the seats ever since

[DanThe]

Reminds me of this

[brian325i]

m3 engine into e30 and range rover into a bog..you like getting your self into sticky situations id say..

any pics of engine sitting mint in the bay with bonnet off..and all auxillaries connected..if so can i rob it for my wallpaper..

thinkin of gettin a m power cover for my m50..ya knoe the american one..cheeky i know and fake i know but its as close as ill get while being a student
fairplay to ya for doing the conversion

[DanThe]

thinkin of gettin a m power cover for my m50..ya knoe the american one..cheeky i know and fake i know but its as close as ill get while being a student

With you being a student I doubt you can warrant the £80 for a plastic cover

M50 engines look nice enough as they are imo

[brian325i]

80 pounds
ya i think m50 looks great as they are too LOL!!

[buster]

Reminds me of this

LOL ,
yeah,it sort of went down like that !!

Heres the m3 disk etc :




Ooops,dont laugh,had a few runs in the hammerite on the backing plates ! Many thanks to Dameon for them :




Oh still need some pads though.I've ordered ebc redstuff.I have fitted the proper disk retaining bolts but i just wound the wheel nuts in also so i dont loose them.

Heres an engine shot for brian,i think at the start of this thread there is a pic with the bonnet off. :




cheers
andy

[tubby17s]

at the end of the e30 4 cylinder engine harnes cover there is a square bit of plastic in the battery tray against the firwall.. i was wodnering if you have the part number for that.. because i cannot find it on the real oem list but i have the long cover

Josh

[buster]

only fitted to the m3 and 320is.I'll have a look in a min.

I think this is it : 51 71 1 380 392

[tubby17s]

yup thats what i needed.. i didnt look in that section for it

thanks
josh

[buster]

Finally got the red stuff pads and wheels on ( the front ).Need spacers though.I've taken the spring clip off the caliper but alloy is just rubbing on the caliper.I've ordered 5mm eibach pro spacers ,just hope the wheel still fits in the arch as it very close now.I will take a better picture when i move it off the drive.Also fitted some H+R springs to raise it slightly.Also fitted the m3 eccentric bushes so thats moved wheel forward slightly.

[jmc330i]

So youve got E30 M3 suspension and brakes up front now?

Still deciding what to do with mine - 4 stud setup with WMS/Wilwood 4pots or M3 5 stud and use the M3 standard brakes (for the time being).

[gcorky]

looks great there Andy....awaiting full on side shot

[e30world]

Hi mate i got my exhaust manyfold in the E30 what i do next

[Xeno]

speechless man....pretty much nothing to say...apart from. whooow!!!
perfect....simply perfect!!

[buster]

Thanks guys Makes it all worth while.Xeno,far from perfect but thankyou anyway

E30world,
What you talkin bout crazy fool

James,
Get the sodding thing working first !! dont make me come down there

[buster]

Right ,
got the spacers today.Came in a stupidly large box :



5mm spacer in place :




It clears the caliper but im concerned now as the bloody wheel is poking out the arch :




Dont know what to do now.They looked as though they may just clear without the spacer but now they stick out.
I wonder if i'd have gotten away with a 3mm spacer.Every little bit counts.Its very close to caliper but with spring off and no spacer it only just cought caliper body.
ANy ideas peeps ?


cheers
andy

[Simon]

Andy, find it strange the wheels rub the caliper too, is this also because of new pads?

Never had any issues when fitted to the M3, but as I said, never got around to fitting new pads to mine!

[jmc330i]

James,
Get the sodding thing working first !! dont make me come down there

Im working on it mate - just the exhaust manifold to go, but my luck doesnt seem to hold out with those, youve seen the problem with the group buy

Ive just about saved enough $$$ to do the suspension, brakes (possibly new wheels) and the respray, but before spending out I want to make sure it runs properly and that means I need an exhaust manifold - also got to convince the GF that she doesnt want a holiday this year

[glenn]

also got to convince the GF that she doesnt want a holiday this year

i can see it now james.......



andy, i cant understand the caliper spring touching the rim
as there's hundreds of m3's running these rims.
what about the thickness of material ( on the disc ) where it mounts to the hub?

[Jhonno]

they all run spacers as they have the same issue with caliper/wheel contact with new pads

[ian332isport]

they all run spacers as they have the same issue with caliper/wheel contact with new pads

Space is not such an issue on an M3 though. They have flared arches to accomodate the wider rim/track.

[buster]

Simon,
Yeah there brand new pads,and new disks.Only just catch the caliper.

Well the way i see it is :

Option 1.
The wheel only just took the paint off the caliper with no spacer fitted and no spring clip.If i could bin or take it off for a while until pads wear down then i could just grind back the caliper slightly as it is only cast steel and pretty thick.Would this be ok without the spring/retainer clip ?

Option 2.
Machine down the pads enough to get wheel on without spacers.Dont really want to do this,because pads wont last as long and i paid £90 for the buggers !

Option 3.
Roll the arches.

Option 4.
Try a 3mm spacer.

what do you think i should do ? Also does anyone have a 3mm spacer they can sell to me or even lend me to try.These pro spacers were £35 so dont fancy buying more if they dont fit.
On the m3 the 5mm spacer wouldn't be a problem as Ian said,because of the wider arches.

Your help appreciated guys,

cheers,
andy

[Jhonno]

they all run spacers as they have the same issue with caliper/wheel contact with new pads

Space is not such an issue on an M3 though. They have flared arches to accomodate the wider rim/track.

yup, was just clarifyin tho that M3's do have the same issue but as you say can get away with it as they have the wider arches to start with.

Rolling the arches will prob be your best best.. What size tyres are you running?

[buster]

215 40 17,same as whats on my old wheels,but 8j rim.
Backs are 245 35 17.

Really dont want to roll them though.
Yours look quite close in your sig,no problems or is it a decieving picture ?

[Jhonno]

im running et20 16x7.5 with a 205/50 tyre.. I Might be able to squeeze 225's under there, but i'd have to roll the arch

there isnt loads of room in there tho

[bigpimpin]

Andy, mine dont seem to stick out as much as yours and I think our setup is the same. I do seem to have quite a bit of toe-in though. Whats the offset of your front wheels?

I remember having to grind down the retaining springs slightly but cant remember if that was before or after fitting the spacers.


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[buster]

Hi Sandy,
Yours looks like its got far more clearance than mine.I've just checked the etk and my wheels are from an e31 (8 series) and the front wheels are et 10.
The photo below of mine with no spacer looks ok :



But after the spacer not so good.but i have just remembered something.When i took the photo from above the car the suspension hadn't settled properly as i had just fitted new springs and hadn't quite lowered it off the jack.Also,i wonder if it makes a differance that i've fitted m3 eccentric control arm bushes ?

[bigpimpin]

Andy, my fronts are ET 20mm so that'll give me 10mm extra clearance than you from the calipers (if its positive offset)

But in theory this would also mean your wheels should have more clearance at the arches as they sit 10mm closer to the hub?

a wee diagram here might clarify what i'm saying http://www.matey-matey.com/offset_diagram.gif

Im also using the M3 eccentric bushes on my wishbones.

[bigpimpin]

Oh yeah, and you may find when the suspension settles lower it will pull in the top of the wheel a bit (toe-in)

[buster]

Well i've lowered it down (have taken pictures but photofuckit doesnt seem to be uploading) and it has sat in better but still very close.As you pointed out above the offset should give more arch clearance but need a 10 mm spacer just to be the same as yours.Im very confused now.Im going to go and check what the wheels have wrote on them.