Hartge H27 piccies while the sun is out !!!

[DanThe]

Looking good


Ive got one of these on mine, much prefer it to the foam pads as it covers the dirty bits
This type is from a 325e or diesel model, M3 one is bulky at the front

[e30topless]

Looking good


Ive got one of these on mine, much prefer it to the foam pads as it covers the dirty bits
This type is from a 325e or diesel model, M3 one is bulky at the front

thanks Dan,
if it's a 325 item then it is rude not to keep it on there

wish i had fitted the piping for the washer jets first

[e30topless]

I also fitted this, something else that has been in the utility room for months ,


I think I will wire in an extra boot light in the right hand side too

I found a way to get it off the floor without using axle stands under the sills,
a fellow zoner knocked these beauties up in his dinner break ! they do the job perfectly !


underside stripped




as i suspected it is solid , no rot rust here





looks a bit frilly around the spring mounts,nothing serious

it seems there has been black waxoil applied at some point,

can't decide if i should strip it all back and apply a new coat of clear or leave it as it is ,

[Royalratch]

Can you go over the top of it?

[tinnaM42]

car is looking crazy stevo!

[e30topless]

car is looking crazy stevo!

cheers Jay
you still got the Tech 1 and is it for sale ?

[The_Diddler]

Can you go over the top of it?

You wouuldnt want to go over the top of the original BMW factory applied underseal.

On mine for example there were plenty of signs of the original stuff either peeling or cracking, water gets in you can guess the rest.

Even the smallest 5mm cracks, really they are barely noticable, when cleaned back with the wire wheel in the drill revealed some impressive surface rust spread underneath the factory sealer, sometimes a much larger area had to be stripped back to get to clean metal/factory undercoat.

You can see from my pictures posted earlier how much i had to clean back, luckily Steves doent look anywhere near as bad.

[e30topless]

as Paul stated I really don't want to go over the top of old underseal,

but since the surface is 99% unbroken then why fix something that's not broke ? maybe just touch it up ?
the black underseal is dissapointing, and the history shows a bill for 'new' undersealing done in 1994 by the dealers, they obviously used black/grey instead of clear, w a nkers...

should i scrape it back to bare metal ? maybe i should have had the entire shell media blasted/dipped at the start,

I don't want it concours that was never the plan,
I just want a good clean car with no nasty suprises that looks good, and drives better, I can't wait for that day ....

[tinnaM42]

car is looking crazy stevo!

cheers Jay
you still got the Tech 1 and is it for sale ?

yeh still got it got some nice things planned for it for jan/feb its had its christmas presents

[Royalratch]

Can you go over the top of it?

You wouuldnt want to go over the top of the original BMW factory applied underseal.

I meant new Waxoil over old waxoil / underseal.

[The_Diddler]

I don't want it concours that was never the plan,
I just want a good clean car with no nasty suprises that looks good, and drives better, I can't wait for that day ....

Me too.....

[The_Diddler]

Can you go over the top of it?

You wouuldnt want to go over the top of the original BMW factory applied underseal.

I meant new Waxoil over old waxoil / underseal.

Arrrr i see, mind the old waxoyl could be hiding some surprises then a good poke/look about underneath is a wise time investment now you can get access to see most areas.

[Royalratch]

I've had quite a strong poke about underneath and it looks solid.

I haven't gone to the same length as you guys as I wanted the car back in a few months (it's been over 6!) and don't have the time to totally dismantle but one day I would love to do what you guys are doing and to be honest a proper resto is what you guys are doing.

Will make a nice retirement project - when no parts are around anymore!

[e30topless]

after a long poke around underneath the decision was made to leave it alone,
the factory underseal/wax oil is unbroken there is no rust present and I firmly believe in not fixing something thats not broke, so a good clean was sufficient

the last 2 weeks off work has been great, I have got lots of jobs done mainly fiddly bits
I should really take more pics, but once i get cracking I forget
I decided against the 'mesh' on the front Hartge valance, and went with a satin 'background'

it looks sweet I love it ,

oh and the badges I have are now restored that grille badge will be removed to make way for the Original font
before,



after,

[The_Diddler]

Front looks good

The black background makes a real difference, much better.

Still need more piccies thou

[e30topless]

cheers Paul will take more piccies , I'm no david bailey ya know

[Ollie_bwoii]

Have you sprayed the whole valance satin black then? Massive improvement.

[e30topless]

Have you sprayed the whole valance satin black then? Massive improvement.

nope! just the bit between the fogs, and up to the bumper line

[Dezzy]

It looks
I am very jellous

[town325i]

thats a good looking front valance makes a change from tech 2 ones how hard are these to find?

[B7]

This is looking good now is it not? Looks incredibly clean underneath from the off. Was the car "limited use" before you got it steve?

[Dezzy]

thats a good looking front valance makes a change from tech 2 ones how hard are these to find?

My guess is VERY hard or VERY expensive. Look sex don't they

[StuBeeDoo]

thats a good looking front valance makes a change from tech 2 ones how hard are these to find?

My guess is VERY hard or VERY expensive. Look sex don't they

My guess is VERY hard AND VERY expensive.

[StuBeeDoo]

Looks 100% better with the satin black behind it, Steve.

[Dezzy]

thats a good looking front valance makes a change from tech 2 ones how hard are these to find?

My guess is VERY hard or VERY expensive. Look sex don't they

My guess is VERY hard AND VERY expensive.

what he said

[spook]

Those Hartge body kits are pretty rare now and so are getting expensive.

I had to pay through the nose for my rear valance

I got my kit from Iain h27 about 5 years ago for what now seems a bargain price. mine was a pre facelift kit which was fitted to my facelift car, the early rear valance would not fit hence the need for big bucks for a facelift rear .

Coming on nicely Steve.

[Alex]

Bloody awsome steve, i may have a quick look if i pop in tomorrow

[jonny323i]

i sold mine last year front rear and one sill £200 was that too cheap lol

[e30topless]

This is looking good now is it not? Looks incredibly clean underneath from the off. Was the car "limited use" before you got it steve?

it's getting there Trev

the Donor car was owned by 1 family from new with 60k on the clock and Garaged every night , it has never seen the rain , took me months and hundreds of miles to find a good one !
I paid top whack for it but it has zero rust, the paint was polished to death which warranted a full re-spray,

[e30topless]

thats a good looking front valance makes a change from tech 2 ones how hard are these to find?

My guess is VERY hard or VERY expensive. Look sex don't they

Virtually impossible to find another I think, but if i do i will buy as a spare incase i damage this one !

[e30topless]

Looks 100% better with the satin black behind it, Steve.

cheers Stu shame i didn't get chance to catch up today I was in a major rush !

Bloody awsome steve, i may have a quick look if i pop in tomorrow

of course Alex but the snow here is very bad !

i sold mine last year front rear and one sill £200 was that too cheap lol

I should have bought it as a spare when i had the chance !

[Dezzy]

Ffs don't damage it. You will never forgive yourself. I wouldn't trust myself with something this nice

[E30BeemerLad]

I'd have been pleased with the car before he sent it to paint as it was in superb order.

I'll have to pop over for a gawk and to pick up those chromie rear pop outs, need to sort out that diamond schwartz front wing with Pete too

[Alex]

Looks 100% better with the satin black behind it, Steve.

cheers Stu shame i didn't get chance to catch up today I was in a major rush !

Bloody awsome steve, i may have a quick look if i pop in tomorrow

of course Alex but the snow here is very bad !

i sold mine last year front rear and one sill £200 was that too cheap lol

I should have bought it as a spare when i had the chance !

Pauls saying we may not go now because of it

[Alex]

thats a good looking front valance makes a change from tech 2 ones how hard are these to find?

My guess is VERY hard or VERY expensive. Look sex don't they

Virtually impossible to find another I think, but if i do i will buy as a spare incase i damage this one !

Found this site ages ago, has replica everything bodykits, however the hartge one does look different from the genuine thing

http://www.bmwpartswheels.com/bmw-body- ... n-864.html