Fiiting power steering+ e36 rack

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P10mike
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I'm looking to fit an e36 rack and power steering as i'm fed up with the keep fit steering and just wanted to check if i need anything else for it before i start. So far i have,

e36 rack + e30 rods and ends
PAS pump
Correct pipes
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Resevoir with hose.

Am i right in thinking i also need a crank pulley?
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Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:03 pm

Spacers for rack and subrame.
And something for the steering linkage. Seems DanThe is the man for the linkages...
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Thu Dec 29, 2011 4:37 pm

What engine do you have in your e30
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Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:53 pm

Apart from 'bolting the rack to the subframe' I dont see the relevance :?
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Thu Dec 29, 2011 6:07 pm

Lhd cars don't have to worry about their steering linkage hitting the manifold
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:46 pm

Oh forgot to say i have a machined centre with an e30 uj on one end and an e36 uj on the other.
Also have the washers for the spacing.
Wasn't sure about the pulley though, is it hard to fit?
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:56 pm

Mike I have a pulley here if you need it :wink:
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 4:30 pm

:thumb: Cheers bud i'll give you a call.
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:01 pm

Here's the ultimate guide Mike

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... light=rack

This tells you everything and is where I got the info to make the spacer you have
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:14 pm

DanThe wrote:
Apart from 'bolting the rack to the subframe' I dont see the relevance :?

I obviously thought a link to a step by step pictorial guide with part numbers of a e36 rack conversion would be pretty handy for the op as he is inquiring about doing just that!

Or am I missing something? :?
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:24 pm

The link you gave is for left hand drive cars, we have right hand drive so everything apart from the bolts through the rack is different
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:31 pm

Fair enough, my mistake.
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 5:34 pm

The link I've posted is for right hand drive and is the best I've ever found after hours of searching
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:23 pm

Yes your guide is good
I use that lonkage
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 6:57 pm

PAS rack should be mounted in the rear holes FYI
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:08 pm

rossmc88 wrote:Here's the ultimate guide Mike

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... light=rack

This tells you everything and is where I got the info to make the spacer you have
hi buddy do you have an e36 rack on an m42 e30?
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:12 pm

redcar wrote:
rossmc88 wrote:Here's the ultimate guide Mike

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... light=rack

This tells you everything and is where I got the info to make the spacer you have
hi buddy do you have an e36 rack on an m42 e30?
not yet, but I have a Z3 rack to fit. I had everything I needed before, but sold it to Mike when I got rid of my E30. Then I bought another E30, this time an M42, so bought a Z3 rack for it since it's a keeper. I'm saving up for new arms, track rods and drop links before I fit it
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rossmc88 wrote:
redcar wrote:
rossmc88 wrote:Here's the ultimate guide Mike

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... light=rack

This tells you everything and is where I got the info to make the spacer you have
hi buddy do you have an e36 rack on an m42 e30?
not yet, but I have a Z3 rack to fit. I had everything I needed before, but sold it to Mike when I got rid of my E30. Then I bought another E30, this time an M42, so bought a Z3 rack for it since it's a keeper. I'm saving up for new arms, track rods and drop links before I fit it
oh ok and what linkage are you going to use. Standard e30 with different guibo or an e30/e36 hybrid?

Im using the hybrid but the lower UJ is very close to the manifold. Ordered some new poly engine mounts and hopefully that solves it.

Is a z3 rack the exact same as an e36 rack in terms of the shafts etc.?
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:20 pm

The Z3 rack is better as the splines match on both ends, so I don't have to make a hybrid like I did for the E36 rack kit I sold Mike. I'll still have to make a 22mm spacer like I did before to create the extra length needed.

Are you fitting the rack to an M42? If so, get some solid M50 e34 mounts from euro car parts - £30 ish pounds and this will raise the enging slightly and help with the clearance. This is what I'm going to do for my M42 installation
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Fri Dec 30, 2011 9:27 pm

rossmc88 wrote:The Z3 rack is better as the splines match on both ends, so I don't have to make a hybrid like I did for the E36 rack kit I sold Mike. I'll still have to make a 22mm spacer like I did before to create the extra length needed.

Are you fitting the rack to an M42? If so, get some solid M50 e34 mounts from euro car parts - £30 ish pounds and this will raise the enging slightly and help with the clearance. This is what I'm going to do for my M42 installation
Was thinking of doing that but didn't want to raise the engine an extra 8mm.

So i decided to buy some poly m42 e30 engine mounts. Engine shouldn't be moving at all! :)

I've heard even a few mm clearance from the uj and the manifold is good enough as long as your engine mounts don't let the engine move at all.

I just need to get some e21 gearbox mounts. Don't really want poly on the gearbox as it might vibrate.
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How much were your poly engine mounts and where from? Would the e34 mounts raise the engine as much as 8mm?

Yeah I've read you only need a couple of mm clearance too

I would get a DanThe linkage, but I can get the spacers made up at my work for free
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rossmc88 wrote:How much were your poly engine mounts and where from? Would the e34 mounts raise the engine as much as 8mm?

Yeah I've read you only need a couple of mm clearance too

I would get a DanThe linkage, but I can get the spacers made up at my work for free
No need for us to have a new linkage, the linkage isn't the problem its just the lower UJ which is the problem.

I got mine from revshift, they were $150 shipped. those e28 mounts which fit are 63mm whereas m42 mounts are 55mm.

Wouldn't really want to raise the engine.
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Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:26 pm

i want to do this project to my m42, i bought a 95 e36 m3 evo rack can i use all the old pipes etc?
will the e30 Universal joint fit the e36 one?
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Sat Dec 31, 2011 1:58 pm

I think you need the e36 lower uj as the splines on e30 and e36 are different

Make a hybrid e30 / e36 shaft
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Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:00 pm

PAS rack splines are all the same from what ive seen
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If you need a hand fitting it give me a phone.
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Cheers bud i still need to get a few bits for it so i will be fitting the exhaust first and the rack in a month or so.
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