My 325i

Doing a minor build / restoration or an epic one, post it here

Moderator: martauto

onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:28 am

Just going to post progress on the car here. Done a lot already but some left to go.

Since I'm pretty new to car restoration I'd appreciate feedback and advice on my processes. I'm bound to make many mistakes so if you see anything in this thread that makes you cringe then don't hesitate to point it out! I won't be offended
Last edited by onthames on Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:32 pm, edited 2 times in total.
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:35 am

Yesterday replaced the torn SE boot lid liner in a darker leather effect vinyl and sprayed the tool tray in black after priming with grey primer
I'm currently doing a few small surface rust repairs and one area of penetrating rust on one of the jacking points. I'm removing the rust, going back to bare metal in the area and feathering the underseal around. Them priming with epoxy primer, using seam sealant where necessary and then using dinitrol underseal - going slightly over the surrounding underseal to create a good patch. Between doing that I'm working on replacing the suspension to a bilstein b12 kit, replacing all rubber bushings, rebuilding the shifter (new bushes etc), repainting the subframes, struts, replacing the discs, rebuilding the differential, replacing the main gearbox seals and replacing the oil sump gasket. Oh and removing the engine so I can tidy up the engine bay! Lots to he getting on with.
PXL_20211004_093331454.jpg
PXL_20211004_143636955.jpg
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:38 am

PXL_20210929_194259070.jpg
A bit of progress on the diff. Starting to get back to bare metal although it was caked in rust so taking a while. Wire wheel not working particularly well to remove the paint so tomorrow I'm going to use starchem paint stripper on it (serious stuff). I thought about blasting it to remove the paint but the risk of getting sand inside is too high.
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:40 am

The subframe was very stuck but this trick I read on some forum post saved the day.
PXL_20210929_143512545.jpg
PXL_20210929_144007616.jpg
PXL_20210929_144055116.jpg
PXL_20210929_144631540.jpg
]
tha881
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 780
Joined: Thu Apr 15, 2010 11:00 pm
Location: Kent

Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:47 am

Nice work, the SE boot liner and tool kit looks fantastic
Image
User avatar
Tzantushka
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 464
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:18 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:55 am

I like this!
Subscribed!
User avatar
ah
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 2518
Joined: Mon Mar 10, 2008 11:00 pm
Location: surrey

Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:39 pm

onthames wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:38 am
PXL_20210929_194259070.jpg

A bit of progress on the diff. Starting to get back to bare metal although it was caked in rust so taking a while. Wire wheel not working particularly well to remove the paint so tomorrow I'm going to use starchem paint stripper on it (serious stuff). I thought about blasting it to remove the paint but the risk of getting sand inside is too high.
Out of interest how did you get away with this, my wife would of had a sh1t fit if that was my diff in our house.
Image
Born on the 23 April 1990 320i Alpinweiss ll kabriolett! (SOLD BUT NOT FORGOTTEN !) :cry:
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:08 pm

ah wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 5:39 pm
onthames wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 12:38 am
PXL_20210929_194259070.jpg

A bit of progress on the diff. Starting to get back to bare metal although it was caked in rust so taking a while. Wire wheel not working particularly well to remove the paint so tomorrow I'm going to use starchem paint stripper on it (serious stuff). I thought about blasting it to remove the paint but the risk of getting sand inside is too high.
Out of interest how did you get away with this, my wife would of had a sh1t fit if that was my diff in our house.
Luckily my parents are quite easy going and as long as stuff isn't in the house permantly then they're okay with it. I just had it infront of the radiator for a few hours to dry after I had been degreasing it in the parts washer.


New compressor arrived today. Got it hooked up to the sandblaster and works a treat! Now time to start sandblasting all the parts and prep for painting.
Screenshot_20211005-190953.png
User avatar
aimlessrock
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1821
Joined: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:00 pm
Location: Manchester

Tue Oct 05, 2021 7:59 pm

best means to de-rust the diff is hydolosis, - check it out on youtube.

ive done a couple over the years.
E30 320i Convertible (1989)
190 Mercedes (1988)

"there is nothing more expensive than a cheap E30"
User avatar
martauto
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 6200
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: leeds

Wed Oct 06, 2021 4:57 pm

tha881 wrote:
Tue Oct 05, 2021 10:47 am
Nice work, the SE boot liner and tool kit looks fantastic
The OEM police wont go for this but it`s your car and you can do what the hell you like to it !!!!
For what it`s worth , I think they look "Shit Hot" !!! :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Mart.
Only the E46 cab left now.
Just got too old.
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:12 pm

Started prepping some parts today for painting
For the control arms I'm etching, spraying por 15 and then spraying por 15 top coat. After etching the control arms I washed off the solution using water and dried with a heat gun however some small amounts of surface rust formed. This isn't an issue though.
PXL_20211006_172304182.jpg
PXL_20211006_145232417.jpg
PXL_20211006_152722904.jpg
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:41 pm

I got this off of Amazon for £70. Should make a good spray painting area. Set up the garden as I'll start spraying later this week. Planning to do most of it in one go and then bring the "booth" down again until I need to spray again.
IMG-20211006-WA0003.jpeg
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Thu Oct 07, 2021 4:52 pm

Definitely gonna spray in bigger batches from now on. Paint went on well but was a proper faff. For a first try tho not bad.
PXL_20211007_140619339.jpg
PXL_20211007_153705013.jpg
User avatar
martauto
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 6200
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: leeds

Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:21 pm

Great idea and if and when it gets very messy .....who cares ??????
Wish to hell you lived near to me lol.

Mart.
Only the E46 cab left now.
Just got too old.
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:11 am

I started rear subframe disassembly yesterday and had some real difficulty with the bearings. The inner races came out leaving the outer which meant I couldn't get any purchase with a pressing tool due to the lip on the trailing arm itself. In the end I welded a ring on the outer race which contracted the bearing allowing me to hammer it out.
PXL_20211007_222519700.jpg
PXL_20211007_192148612.jpg
PXL_20211007_192325554.jpg
PXL_20211007_210912792.jpg
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:53 pm

Had great difficulty removing the rear wheel bearings today. Had to get the grinder out and left a small 0.5mm deep cut on the hub. Does anyone know if this will pose a problem?
Screenshot_20211008-205247.png
User avatar
martauto
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 6200
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: leeds

Sat Oct 09, 2021 1:41 pm

Does the inner track fit over this, as in you have to press it on over the shaft and if so should not be an issue.

Mart.
Only the E46 cab left now.
Just got too old.
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:16 pm

Dash out and AC and cruise control going in soon... Just need to tidy the wiring and redo lots of seals. Switch over to new dryer, new pressure switches and a new parallel flow condenser and electric fan.
PXL_20211017_095138557.jpg
PXL_20211017_095124258.jpg
PXL_20211017_112320197.jpg
PXL_20211017_184941732.jpg
User avatar
fixedwheelnut
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 909
Joined: Sun Nov 20, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: South East London

Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:36 pm

onthames wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:53 pm
Had great difficulty removing the rear wheel bearings today. Had to get the grinder out and left a small 0.5mm deep cut on the hub. Does anyone know if this will pose a problem?

Screenshot_20211008-205247.png
Top tip for the future, clamp the flange in a vice, use a pry bar, bang it in with a hammer to start a small gap, then with a second person using a second pry bar both lever the inner race off together, sometimes you need a thick spanner to pad it out to get the last bit of movement.

Also getting the bush to drop out of the recess in the bodywork, we did them one at a time, use the long end of a pry bar up inside the aluminium part of the bush and give it a good wiggle until it drops out under the weight of the subframe, use an axle stand to catch it from dropping too far :)

https://www.screwfix.com/p/roughneck-ro ... lsrc=aw.ds
User avatar
aimlessrock
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1821
Joined: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:00 pm
Location: Manchester

Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:54 pm

with the dash out chek the steel work on the bulkhead- esp round the battery box and round the drivers side.
E30 320i Convertible (1989)
190 Mercedes (1988)

"there is nothing more expensive than a cheap E30"
User avatar
Tzantushka
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 464
Joined: Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:18 am
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Mon Oct 18, 2021 3:03 am

onthames wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 8:16 pm
Dash out and AC and cruise control going in soon... Just need to tidy the wiring and redo lots of seals. Switch over to new dryer, new pressure switches and a new parallel flow condenser and electric fan.
Sweet!

Some Tesa cloth tape will come in handy for the wiring looms.
https://www.tesa.com/en-au/industry/tesa-51608.html

Probably over kill, but I ended up chiselling out the 2x lower fracture bolts for the steering column (and replacing with regular bolts) so I could drop the steering column with ease
Avoids damaging the steering column shroud on the dash re-install.
Plus allows me to replace parts on the steering column without removing the dash.
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:28 pm

aimlessrock wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:54 pm
with the dash out chek the steel work on the bulkhead- esp round the battery box and round the drivers side.
Under the sound insulation?
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Tue Oct 19, 2021 10:16 pm

My dad tried my homemade "spray booth" today and helped me paint some parts. Also picked up these very rare sill strips with the mtechnic design.
PXL_20211018_115602526.jpg
PXL_20211019_121759024.jpg
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:51 pm

Bit the bullet today and started removing rusty bits near the front jacking point.
PXL_20211022_163016289.jpg
Cloggy Saint
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 8024
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: zummerzet

Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:56 pm

Getting well stuck in! Aren't the sill strips still available from the dealer?
Image

E30 zone - promoting adult illiteracy since 2004
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:15 pm

Cloggy Saint wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:56 pm
Getting well stuck in! Aren't the sill strips still available from the dealer?
The sill itself that I've cut out was actually intact, but there is 3 bits of metal that make up the sill at the bottom edge itself, two of which come down from the floor pan area and the piece in the middle had rusted out completely. The large bit of the outer skin of the sill I've cut out I plan to put back in once I remove the two other skin layers from it - I removed it so I can weld the repair to the inner part in from both sides.

Instead of having three bits of sheet metal making up the bottom edge, I plan to just use two as it makes the repair much easier. I'll compensate by using slightly thicker sheet

It seems most of this was caused by a blocked drainage hole for the sunroof which was filled with underseal when I removed it... I'm lucky the damage isn't worse to be honest.
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:32 pm

This is my idea for the repair:

Green = 1.8mm thick patch
Red = 1.8mm thick patch
Blue = existing metal I've cut out and plan to put back in
Purple = butt welds
Yellow = plug welds (Between red and blue part)


Never done this before so any feedback would be appreciated :)
repair.jpg
Cloggy Saint
Old Skooler
Old Skooler
Posts: 8024
Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: zummerzet

Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:47 pm

onthames wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:15 pm
Cloggy Saint wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:56 pm
Getting well stuck in! Aren't the sill strips still available from the dealer?
The sill itself that I've cut out was actually intact, but there is 3 bits of metal that make up the sill at the bottom edge itself, two of which come down from the floor pan area and the piece in the middle had rusted out completely. The large bit of the outer skin of the sill I've cut out I plan to put back in once I remove the two other skin layers from it - I removed it so I can weld the repair to the inner part in from both sides.

Instead of having three bits of sheet metal making up the bottom edge, I plan to just use two as it makes the repair much easier. I'll compensate by using slightly thicker sheet

It seems most of this was caused by a blocked drainage hole for the sunroof which was filled with underseal when I removed it... I'm lucky the damage isn't worse to be honest.

I meant the M-tech sill strips!
Image

E30 zone - promoting adult illiteracy since 2004
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:53 pm

Cloggy Saint wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:47 pm
onthames wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:15 pm
Cloggy Saint wrote:
Fri Oct 22, 2021 5:56 pm
Getting well stuck in! Aren't the sill strips still available from the dealer?
The sill itself that I've cut out was actually intact, but there is 3 bits of metal that make up the sill at the bottom edge itself, two of which come down from the floor pan area and the piece in the middle had rusted out completely. The large bit of the outer skin of the sill I've cut out I plan to put back in once I remove the two other skin layers from it - I removed it so I can weld the repair to the inner part in from both sides.

Instead of having three bits of sheet metal making up the bottom edge, I plan to just use two as it makes the repair much easier. I'll compensate by using slightly thicker sheet

It seems most of this was caused by a blocked drainage hole for the sunroof which was filled with underseal when I removed it... I'm lucky the damage isn't worse to be honest.

I meant the M-tech sill strips!
Ah, yes they are, but are unbelievably expensive.
User avatar
aimlessrock
E30 Zone Squatter
E30 Zone Squatter
Posts: 1821
Joined: Sun Dec 06, 2009 11:00 pm
Location: Manchester

Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:35 pm

onthames wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 9:28 pm
aimlessrock wrote:
Sun Oct 17, 2021 9:54 pm
with the dash out chek the steel work on the bulkhead- esp round the battery box and round the drivers side.
Under the sound insulation?
check all the pannels behind the dash - i found some holes right at the back past the battery box - with the dash out you have full access- if needed remove the wings (bolt on) and do a full check.
E30 320i Convertible (1989)
190 Mercedes (1988)

"there is nothing more expensive than a cheap E30"
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:18 pm

PXL_20211027_125011705.jpg
So... It's been one hell of a time. I fucked up the patches and decided to start again a few times... This resulted in me having more of a gaping hole than I started with! Lesson learnt. Got something I'm somewhat happy with now.

Will clean up the area thoroughly. Epoxy prime the area, seam seal the welds and the underside will get a coat of undercoating too.
User avatar
martauto
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 6200
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: leeds

Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:31 pm

Any more reports to share with us ??

Mart.
Only the E46 cab left now.
Just got too old.
onthames
E30 Zone Regular
E30 Zone Regular
Posts: 615
Joined: Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:47 am

Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:08 pm

martauto wrote:
Sat Dec 11, 2021 2:31 pm
Any more reports to share with us ??

Mart.
Finished welding and now working on all the suspension components etc
PXL_20211207_162503479.jpg
PXL_20211115_161409762.jpg
PXL_20211115_161401238.jpg
PXL_20211213_152823871.jpg
User avatar
martauto
E30 Zone Team Member
E30 Zone Team Member
Posts: 6200
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 11:00 pm
Location: leeds

Mon Dec 13, 2021 5:18 pm

Lovely to see things coming together and nice work mate :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

Mart.
Only the E46 cab left now.
Just got too old.
User avatar
BenHar
E30 Zone Addict
E30 Zone Addict
Posts: 3071
Joined: Sun Jul 11, 2010 11:00 pm
Location: Reigate, Surrey

Mon Dec 13, 2021 9:18 pm

Good to see some progress.

The two welding pictures seem to show some missed bits. Will you be going back to fix them?

Ben
Post Reply