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Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:36 pm

Never going to that theer London, but interesting results from the T Charge Checker.

1984 Yamaha 2 Stroke 500cc - No Charge
1990 Ducati 4 Stroke - No Charge
2006 MINI Cooper Petrol - No Charge
2001 M3 Coupe - No Charge
1989 325i - Charge
1993 320i - Charge
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Mon Oct 23, 2017 9:57 pm

My 89 Chromie will get charged but who the hell wants to drive in to London and pay, but my 2003 import Subaru is exempt.

Will be worse when the bring in the ultra low emissions zone, north south circuit then the M25 in the future, I think wood burners owned by the middle classes are polluting London much more then noxious cars.......
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 1:54 am

load of jason rollocks ship delivering a load of cars from europe to uk puts out more pollution than all cars aboard will put out in there entire life
just another tax
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This will not stop the majority of people so what happens to the extra cash ???
What do you think .
(rhetorical question)

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Tue Oct 24, 2017 2:36 pm

who wants to go to London anyway
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 4:44 pm

HRH-squidlips_III wrote:load of jason rollocks ship delivering a load of cars from europe to uk puts out more pollution than all cars aboard will put out in there entire life
just another tax
Although im not sure if this statement is true i do agree in the logic. What about all the billionaires flying private jets etc

But i guess its a good thing reducing pollution in heavily populated areas as it does affect peoples health.

Not pleased that an e46 m3 is exempt but a smaller displacement 2.5 or 2.0 will be taxed
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 6:05 pm

I believe 40+ year old cars are exempt too.
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:19 pm

tha881 wrote:[Not pleased that an e46 m3 is exempt but a smaller displacement 2.5 or 2.0 will be taxed
Its down to weather a car meets Euro 4 emissions standards or not an an E46 M3 is Euro 4 compliant where as an E30 (even when fitted with a cat, is not.
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 7:38 pm

Hey Barry i thought only the later E46 M3's were euro 4 compliant there was a change in the emmisions & mpg on some of the 55 plate and 06 & 56 plate cars were euro 4 compliant, although we have a 54 plate and its not subject to the T charge but will not qualify for the ulez charge planned to come in effect later on. I need to know before i chop it in for a later year identical turd & part with a few £k to drive off in exactly the same turd. a™a
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 8:50 pm

I see so we are using outdated euro legislation again!

E30 325i 248gkm
E46 M3. 328gkm

Im no scientist but surely two similar cars - 5 seats 4 wheels etc, why should i pay and they shouldn't?

I must say i do support measures to reduce pollution in london just questioning why older vehicles get hit every time even though their emissions can be less
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Tue Oct 24, 2017 9:53 pm

bss325i wrote:
tha881 wrote:[Not pleased that an e46 m3 is exempt but a smaller displacement 2.5 or 2.0 will be taxed
Its down to weather a car meets Euro 4 emissions standards or not an an E46 M3 is Euro 4 compliant where as an E30 (even when fitted with a cat, is not.
The 92' 500SL is exempt. I'm guessing because its an import.
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Just checked my donor car P reg 328i and its say I don't need to pay the charge. Ok the cat is missing. But still..

Will the dvla need to know I swapped engines I guess??
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Not that I EVER wish to go there but my 316 30 year old Baur has to pay but my e46 330ci sport is OK ?

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Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:59 pm

Don't knock London lots of interesting stuff to do unless you want to drive during rush hour :mad:

Anyways, by 2020 they want to bring in Clean Air Zones and to get the owners of diesel cars to pay a "pollution fee" (TAX) in Leeds, Derby, Nottingham, Birmingham, London and Southampton.

Proposed cities are Newcastle, Hull, Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Stoke, Leicester, Coventry, Cardiff and Bristol, this is from a report back in 2016 so I assume it can all change.

The UK must be really desperate for cash as the motorist gets hit in the pocket again.
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Well, they've got to pay for the Brexit bail-out and all the political procrastination in the meantime somehow...
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 4:12 pm

This was thought out before the vote, most Governments run a pyramid scheme as I could not live in a perpetual debt cycle.

Hopefully all the smug gits that knock London can start paying their way. :D
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 5:03 pm

I live within the congestion zone so get a residents 90% discount.

Reality is, those who drive within the zone during the charging periods are going to pay regardless.

Simply a money making scheme.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:10 pm

LondonTom wrote:I live within the congestion zone so get a residents 90% discount.

Reality is, those who drive within the zone during the charging periods are going to pay regardless.

Simply a money making scheme.
What about your E30, whats the score with living with in zone still 90% with the T charge?

Think they should charge the cyclists, think it will happen one day. Once they see more people using bikes than the buses and underground.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:26 pm

It's a way for the politicians to dupe us into paying a stealth tax
That said we do need to think about pollution
Now what about those aircraft? Don't they run on poppy's and petunias?
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 7:38 pm

Cargo ships too... they are the worst and run on almost the, if not the raw left overs from the refinery.

Just did a quick search 1 cargo ship is equivalent to 50Million cars in one year lol thats a joke.
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LondonTom wrote:I live within the congestion zone so get a residents 90% discount.

Reality is, those who drive within the zone during the charging periods are going to pay regardless.

Simply a money making scheme.
I used to live in Kensington when the Zone was extended and if I had a day off I had to pay for the whole week, I just hate giving the Government money for nothing.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:24 pm

Get it right its local government, they are now a business like this country. Who would vote for labour???

Bring on the exit of the EU.

We are not told on the main stream news of the votes in other EU country's

Least the UKIP ex leader tells it as it is.
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Thu Oct 26, 2017 10:55 pm

Most of London voted for Labour in the last election.
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Lol wonder why!!!

Fact... I know some that come from Vietnam In 1998 and was told remember what political party let you stay.
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drakesmith wrote:
LondonTom wrote:I live within the congestion zone so get a residents 90% discount.

Reality is, those who drive within the zone during the charging periods are going to pay regardless.

Simply a money making scheme.
What about your E30, whats the score with living with in zone still 90% with the T charge?

Think they should charge the cyclists, think it will happen one day. Once they see more people using bikes than the buses and underground.
Yeah, that qualifies for the 90% discount.

The funny thing is, if everyone paid the congestion charge on time and no fines were issued, it would run at a huge loss.
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LondonTom wrote:
drakesmith wrote:
LondonTom wrote:I live within the congestion zone so get a residents 90% discount.

Reality is, those who drive within the zone during the charging periods are going to pay regardless.

Simply a money making scheme.
What about your E30, whats the score with living with in zone still 90% with the T charge?

Think they should charge the cyclists, think it will happen one day. Once they see more people using bikes than the buses and underground.
Yeah, that qualifies for the 90% discount.

The funny thing is, if everyone paid the congestion charge on time and no fines were issued, it would run at a huge loss.
Very grey area. VW. Need we say more...
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