Hartge H27 prices

[elan]

I have been offered a Hartge H27 convertible in good condition. The car is a good spec with around100k miles. The conversion was carried out by Birds and includes Hartge wheels, engine,exhaust etc. Can you please advise on what is a fair price?

[bss325i]

Is it black?

[elan]

Yes, its black.

[bss325i]

Then the chances are its a fake built up by a zoner called e30ata who got banned.

He also faked up a load of paper work for it.

Any pics of said car?

[elan]

This one is not fake as it's been confirmed as genuine and built by Birds garage using the vin and registration.

[Grrrmachine]

This car has caused a lot of controversy in the past:

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=186157

Yes, it has a Hartge engine, Yes it was done by Birds, No it's not a complete H27 car - it's a cabriolet with an engine swap, and should be priced accordingly.

There is only one H27 Cabriolet known to exist. This car is not it.

[bss325i]

This one is not fake as it's been confirmed as genuine and built by Birds garage using the vin and registration.

Did you confirm this with birds yourself?

[elan]

This one had the same letter from Ullah and confirmed by birds to me by phone.

[gooner1]

Where's Ric when you need him?

[bss325i]

Where's Ric when you need him?

Right here!

Well in that case it's not a H27, just a 325i cabrio with a H27 engine fitted by birds.

As for value, Condition and history is everything.

And that letter is/was a fake that ata ullah made up.

Got a link to the advert?

[spook]

How much is the car?

[e30topless]

I have been offered a Hartge H27 convertible in good condition. The car is a good spec with around100k miles. The conversion was carried out by Birds and includes Hartge wheels, engine,exhaust etc. Can you please advise on what is a fair price?

Save your money and buy a nice car, This car is scrap, or it was 4 years ago !

Oh and it had more miles than that back then ! Hopefully that will help you decide the way forward here !!!

Seriously a nice well documented original 325i cabby is a far better car than a badged turd that has done the rounds with lots of expert traders.....

[bss325i]

[elan]

Thanks for the advice. I will do some research and speak to Birds today.

[suchy]

Thanks for the advice. I will do some research and speak to Birds today.

I'd recommend reading the thread link posted also!!

The genuine H27 RHD Cab vs the Cab with an H27 engine...

[bss325i]

That thread should be zone gold!

[suchy]

That thread should be zone gold!

Along with the 'sh*t-slinging' Ata the lying w*nker vs the Zone previous thread!!!

[elan]

I don't want to open a can of worms or for this thread to reach 20 pages.

There is an email from James Bird which reads "Yes I can confirm that the BMW with chassis number eb952** had a genuine Hartge H27 conversion"

[pacerpete]

Any link to the ad ?

[daimlerman]

Any E30 should be valued on the condition of it's shell.

Once satisfied that you have a sound shell,then go forward to value the oily bits.

It appears to me that this particular E30 has a dubious past,so is very difficult to value.
Personally,I would not touch it with your barge-pole,never mind mine!

[bss325i]

In sure someone said ata made up a James bird zone account?

elan, have you phoned Birds yet?

[elan]

I have also called Birds to speak in person. It was an email and not a e30zone message.

The car is taken off for sale until its fully independently inspected. I am getting them to check if the body and the mechanics are in good order before deciding.

[bss325i]

Ok well that's a wise move.

Are Birds inspecting the car?

[elan]

Can't take it to Birds so will be by a BMW independent.

[brettski]

I saw it advertised on Gumtree the other day.

[jonny323i]

It's amazing how these cars keep doing the rounds ata has a set of hartge wheels on eBay the minute