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Fri Feb 06, 2009 12:49 am

why is it e30s with engine changes will be worth less to an enthusiast but chasis changes such as brakes, suspensions wont bother them

i reckon e30s with items from the same period will have a high price, e.g. a 2.7 m20 or even a m30 but a s50 or any other 24v motor will not be worth much.

i donts see alot of e30s anymore so i assumed they are in the hands of enthusiasts already.
i only see 2 e30s on a regular basis, 1 of which is an black alpina for sale on pistonheads for £7k+ and another calypso red cab both owners known to me.
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Fri Feb 06, 2009 10:59 am

87mtech27 wrote:why is it e30s with engine changes will be worth less to an enthusiast but chasis changes such as brakes, suspensions wont bother them
Perhaps because little chassis changes such as brakes, suspension are easier to reverse, as oppose to swapping the original engine back in.
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Speedtouch wrote:Possibly - all manner of cars, some ostensibly quite undesirable/low value, e.g., Morris Marinas, Hillman Avengers, etc. get restored at great expense because they may have sentimental value, or their owners may be defiant oddballs who wish to be different - the classic car world is full of such eccentrics!
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Which fackin' Executive would part with a bag for a Yugo?! One can just picture "Lord Alan" cruising majestically down the Queen's highway in this chariot, appreciating the plush brown carpet and luxury fittings :o:

It's a step up from his usual fare of Honda mopeds and Beige Bedfords I suppose... :roll:
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I live in Somerset, a relatively poor part of the country, people moving in to the area and retiring excluded. I see very few E30's on the road, surprising considering how cheap and reliable they are. However I went to London (Ealing) last weekend and saw more E30's on the road, in one day, then I have in my whole life!
Can anybody who lives in London (Ealing) explain this?

The E30 will always be favoured by driving enthusiasts rather than monied folk, and I only see rare specials M3, Hartge, Alpina going mad in value.

I see the E30 scene heading in a similar direction to the RWD Escorts with some pristine examples on show, very few left on the road and others kept going with lots of welding for race/rallying.
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I recon that it will be the rarer models and the concrse that will only ever get any serious money in 5 - 10 years time.

M3's are spine tinglingly sexy but in terms of rareity they are plentyfull in numbers and I would say most are charised and looked after. If you want a future e30 classic go for a Hartger, Alpina or a Baur due to the much lower production number and nice specs.

Also I think the e34 M5 and Alpina's are going to be a really good classic in 10-15 years time. Insainly well build and i think next to the e30 one of the best BMW's ever produced of the late 80's to early 90's. Also they are goign for reasonable money now so snap them up and do 'em up.
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Felix79 wrote:Also I think the e34 M5 and Alpina's are going to be a really good classic in 10-15 years time. Insainly well build and i think next to the e30 one of the best BMW's ever produced of the late 80's to early 90's. Also they are goign for reasonable money now so snap them up and do 'em up.
no M5 so far has every fetched a decent price even when 25-30 years old and becoming rare, i mean E12 M535i the first affordable road going M badged car is worth no more than £3k, even the tailhappy E28 isn't worth that much money and according to 5 series enthusiasts E34 was a bit of a let down compared to the E28 abit like E36 to E30.
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that yugo, i can appriciate its rare. but as rare as it is, its still an awful a car as it was back then when it was a new awful car!
why would someone pay over a grand for it?? so they can drive it to a car show, sit on a deck chair next to it eating cucumber sandwiches, wearing a tweed jacket, wallowing in their own self pity??
least theyd win best most original shite car in show. :mad:
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murran wrote:that yugo, i can appriciate its rare. but as rare as it is, its still an awful a car as it was back then when it was a new awful car!
why would someone pay over a grand for it?? so they can drive it to a car show, sit on a deck chair next to it eating cucumber sandwiches, wearing a tweed jacket, wallowing in their own self pity??
least theyd win best most original shite car in show. :mad:
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murran wrote:that yugo, i can appriciate its rare. but as rare as it is, its still an awful a car as it was back then when it was a new awful car!
why would someone pay over a grand for it?? so they can drive it to a car show, sit on a deck chair next to it eating cucumber sandwiches, wearing a tweed jacket, wallowing in their own self pity??
least theyd win best most original shite car in show. :mad:
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NayC wrote:I reckon a good 325i will be hard to find in 5-10 years. Let alone the amount of searching required for a good sport or M3.

I'd like to still have mine when its 50 years old!!!
I would too. I don't think I'll be alive to see that though...
I'm with this totally, I bought mine as a long term commitment as I believe they will find there place within the classic community, and I can't see me ever getting rid of it!
It's still a joy to drive even though It's broke through the 61k barrier. Every time I go to the garage and get it out I've just got to go on a trip somewhere.
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Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:23 pm

in 5 years time there will be a few late e30s left, chrome bumper cars will probs be going throught the roof for a decent one

10 years i recon they all will fetch good money as they are an 80's icon, and you will start to see a lot of restorations even on poverty spec cars

the big question is, Will the zone be here in 10 years time ?????
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Felix79 wrote:I recon that it will be the rarer models and the concrse that will only ever get any serious money in 5 - 10 years time.

M3's are spine tinglingly sexy but in terms of rareity they are plentyfull in numbers and I would say most are charised and looked after. If you want a future e30 classic go for a Hartger, Alpina or a Baur due to the much lower production number and nice specs.

Also I think the e34 M5 and Alpina's are going to be a really good classic in 10-15 years time. Insainly well build and i think next to the e30 one of the best BMW's ever produced of the late 80's to early 90's. Also they are goign for reasonable money now so snap them up and do 'em up.
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im at a cross roads with mine. i cant decide whether to break it up and cosworth convert something else or take this one to big power. if i get rid of this one ill be moving on to something totally different.
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fuzzy wrote:im at a cross roads with mine. i cant decide whether to break it up and cosworth convert something else or take this one to big power. if i get rid of this one ill be moving on to something totally different.
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fuzzy wrote:im at a cross roads with mine. i cant decide whether to break it up and cosworth convert something else or take this one to big power. if i get rid of this one ill be moving on to something totally different.
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If I still have mine in 5 Years time it will be the longest I have ever owned a car :mad: Previous record was 2 years. As long as I can afford have a running "project" as well as a daily I think I will have an E30 - my garage won't fit anything much bigger and there's not a lot out there thats affordable to tinker with on a small budget :roll:

I think the prices will start to rise once the economy starts to recover - might be the case that more E30s than you would expect get scrapped during the economic downturn due to people either not being able to afford repairs, or trying to raise money from frag - but this should mean that the ones that are left hold their values when things start picking up.
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10 years i recon they all will fetch good money as they are an 80's icon, and you will start to see a lot of restorations even on poverty spec cars

the big question is, Will the zone be here in 10 years time ?????[/quote]

I think the 80's are back in now, Ashes to Ashes is on later!

They'll always be a channel of some kind for e30 owners wether or not it's the Zone or the local BMW club.

One of the nice things about the poverty spec e30's is that most of the tugs have gone to the scrappers. The ones that will hang about are testament to the fact that you didn't have to be Lord Moneybags or a fat cat yuppie to indulge in something brilliant.
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capri_rob wrote:If I still have mine in 5 Years time it will be the longest I have ever owned a car :mad: Previous record was 2 years. As long as I can afford have a running "project" as well as a daily I think I will have an E30 - my garage won't fit anything much bigger and there's not a lot out there thats affordable to tinker with on a small budget :roll:

I think the prices will start to rise once the economy starts to recover - might be the case that more E30s than you would expect get scrapped during the economic downturn due to people either not being able to afford repairs, or trying to raise money from frag - but this should mean that the ones that are left hold their values when things start picking up.
My sport is the longest car i have owned a 3 years now. I will never sell it and hopefully my son will take it on when he's old enough.

If petrol powered cars are still leagal!
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I will have an s14 and s50 powered e30's and my diesel Golf :)
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capri_rob wrote:If I still have mine in 5 Years time it will be the longest I have ever owned a car :mad: Previous record was 2 years. As long as I can afford have a running "project" as well as a daily I think I will have an E30 - my garage won't fit anything much bigger and there's not a lot out there thats affordable to tinker with on a small budget :roll:

I think the prices will start to rise once the economy starts to recover - might be the case that more E30s than you would expect get scrapped during the economic downturn due to people either not being able to afford repairs, or trying to raise money from frag - but this should mean that the ones that are left hold their values when things start picking up.
My sport is the longest car i have owned a 3 years now. I will never sell it and hopefully my son will take it on when he's old enough.

If petrol powered cars are still leagal!
Had my Dolphin Grey 325i for 2 Years and my 2.8i Capri for 2 Years - my favourite cars. Regret selling both of them.

I'd have to be desparate for cash to sell the Bronzit turd - either that or drop on a low mileage mint 2 Door Manual Dolphin Grey 325iSE with all the option boxes ticked for sensible money - not much chance of that :cry:
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i'm planning on keeping my car for a long time.
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I can't honestly see me getting rid of my Alpina, once I get the time and money again I will finish off the last bits of body work.

Going back to the orginal thread. I see 320's and 325's becomning rarer as they get more abuse. 316's & 323's are common for concorse so should be around for ages.

I just hope one day I can own a Alpina B6 as it's now my top dream e30.
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Maybe moredoors will finally be accepted as cool :cool: .....well at least chrome bumper ones winkeye
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Getting rid of an E30 just doesn't make financial sense unless it is rotten or crash damaged. However, this situation will change as part prices go up. We can see the start of the trend as E30s are getting harder to spot in the scrap yards. It won't be long before you'll need to retrim the seats you have, fabricate new sunroof panels, scrounge around for cylinder heads that haven't already been welded.
At that point E30 ownership stops being a cheap way into RWD fun and starts to be a financial burden. Lets see what the owner profile looks like then!
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jamie323i wrote:Maybe moredoors will finally be accepted as cool :cool: .....well at least chrome bumper ones winkeye
I think tourings will always get a good cult following as many of the tuning companies made soem killer machinces.

Nothing wrong with a moredoor but I think again they will fall under the concorse surviers.

If BMW did a 4 door m3 like the e36 then there could have been a massive demand.
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maybe one day they will be rare but for now theres a thriving population in slough for some reason !

have seen tonnes there - as well as a a few oldschool 535i's

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We've seen parts prices climb somewhat for certain stuff.

Values won't creep until the car is worth more as a whole rather than in parts. This may never happen though.

Old bmw's tend to suffer from their reputation for robustness. Everyone thinks they won't break ungeneral. This seems to hurt their value in old age it seems

Why have a restored reliable fun CSI coupe/2002 when you can have some utter heap of sh!t like a stag or MGB which were toilet when new?
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Simon13 wrote: some utter heap of sh!t like a stag or MGB which were toilet when new?
Cars being described as toilets,sounds like a description Trev would use whilst discussing my blue 5!
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bss325i wrote: Anything interesting. Even mint low mileage 4drs.
Hey i always knew deep down you had some moredoor love within you........

Moredoors there the future!!!!! :teehee: :teehee: :teehee:
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bss325i wrote: Anything interesting. Even mint low mileage 4drs.
Hey i always knew deep down you had some moredoor love within you........

Moredoors there the future!!!!! :teehee: :teehee: :teehee:
I quite like this.

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bss325i wrote:
The_Diddler wrote:
bss325i wrote: Anything interesting. Even mint low mileage 4drs.
Hey i always knew deep down you had some moredoor love within you........

Moredoors there the future!!!!! :teehee: :teehee: :teehee:
I quite like this.

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=130457
Thats alot of moredoor rightness just there.................., looks like offers of £1000 secure it now as well, only 68k on the clock, bearly run in.
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