e30 333i alpina

[e30topless]

how many projects have you got on the go atm?

you have the 323 hartge and now this one


do you ever see your missus

a few too many

fortunatly my good lady is very understanding of my sickness for collecting rotten scrap,

[magpie]

how many projects have you got on the go atm?

you have the 323 hartge and now this one


do you ever see your missus

a few too many

fortunatly my good lady is very understanding of my sickness for collecting rotten scrap,

when i get my car running i'll be in touch and drop by for a gander m8 as i want a canny run out in it to see what's what

[Rav335uk]

Well done Steve, another M30 saved.

[Gortour]

Didn't Steve mention, Rav? He's ripping the engine out and putting in an M52 3.0, bored and stroked to 3.3 to match the boot badge...

[Rav335uk]

Didn't Steve mention, Rav? He's ripping the engine out and putting in an M52 3.0, bored and stroked to 3.3 to match the boot badge...

He's bought it to "Restore" not ruin it with a crap engine.

[Dezzy]

Didn't Steve mention, Rav? He's ripping the engine out and putting in an M52 3.0, bored and stroked to 3.3 to match the boot badge...

M52B30 has already been bored and stroked

[Andyboy]

If you do pull out the M30, I'll have the starboard engine mount bracket please.

[baptie0]

Nice project, well done for saving it

[e30topless]

no engine swap for the triple three, the M30 will be staying put, it's a fine piece of engineering !

[Dezzy]

Whats the difference between that and a 3.5 donk steve.

[Rav335uk]

I think the Alpina has different pistons, cam and comp ratio Dez

[Dezzy]

Are they simular power rav?

[e30topless]

it's 0.5 grams lighter than a 3.5 so it might corner a bit better ?

trying to find info is fairly difficult Dez but I am sure someone on here will know,
it's basically an engine from a 733i 3.3 litre 3210cc (197 BHP) 285NM torque,

[Andyboy]

The 333i engine is a stock 732i lump afaik, 200 bhp. The Alpina manifold was fitted because they were just there, ready made. The 732i was a slow seller and the engine was unique to that car, so there would have been a few about. Performance is akin to a really good Tech 1 Sport - the 3.2 was always a slightly 'flat' engine - not as good as the 3.5, obviously. But it is what it is, good to see it being saved.

[Rav335uk]

Are they simular power rav?

157kW of BMW M power with more than 300nM of torque. Needless to say, it goes. And, thanks to Alpina upgraded brakes, it also stops. Extremely well.

[e30topless]

power is put down through a dogleg getrag and through a 2.91 slipper , I don't expect it to be a screamer but I am sure it will be a good fun driving car

[Rav335uk]

You'll be changing that 2.91 for 3.46, 2.91 is tooo lazy

[Andyboy]

Are they simular power rav?

15 knots of BMW M30 power with more than 300nM of torque at the propeller. Needless to say, it goes. And, thanks to Alpina upgraded rudder, it also corners. Extremely well.

[Andyboy]

You'll be changing that 2.91 for 3.46, 2.91 is tooo lazy

3.46 is a little too low. A 3.25 will be about right - that's what my 'doglegged' E28 528i had and it was about right. Lighter car with more power = perfect.

[Theo]

Yeah, that gearing is a tad long even with a 1:1 fifth gear. A 3.25 diff would be a bit better I rekon.

Really looking forward to seeing how this project goes, and chuffed to see it go to someone who isn't going to rip it apart.

[e30topless]

Are they simular power rav?

15 knots of BMW M30 power with more than 300nM of torque at the propeller. Needless to say, it goes. And, thanks to Alpina upgraded rudder, it also corners. Extremely well.

I don't want to make it quicker Rav , I have other cars for that .. I want to try keep it stock ?

[Rav335uk]

Are they simular power rav?

15 knots of BMW M30 power with more than 300nM of torque at the propeller. Needless to say, it goes. And, thanks to Alpina upgraded rudder, it also corners. Extremely well.

Andy, you

[Andyboy]

That okay Bitch.

I'm just jealous because my M30 is a mere 3.0.

[Rav335uk]

That okay Bitch.

I'm just jealous because my M30 is a mere 3.0.

No problem, new there was a reason behind it

[e30topless]

Yeah, that gearing is a tad long even with a 1:1 fifth gear. A 3.25 diff would be a bit better I rekon.

Really looking forward to seeing how this project goes, and chuffed to see it go to someone who isn't going to rip it apart.

Cheers Theo,

will see how it goes, I do have a 3.25 tucked away

the ratio's from the 333i handbook are
1st-3.717
2nd-2.403
3rd-1.766
4th-1.263
5th-1.000

the ZF is 25% lock with a 2.93:1 ratio

I use my cars for long distance quite a lot so it may work out ok !

[Andyboy]

That okay Bitch.

I'm just jealous because my M30 is a mere 3.0.

No problem, new there was a reason behind it

Stroke inadequacy complex Rav - I've only got 80mm of thrust!

[maxfield]

Pacer tells me it's a bit less than 80mm

[Andyboy]

Oi! I've still got a 90mm bore you little slut!

[Theo]

Yeah, stick with the 2.93 if you're going to do a fair few decent length journeys.

Please get a thread up in the photo gallery ASAP!

Yeah, that gearing is a tad long even with a 1:1 fifth gear. A 3.25 diff would be a bit better I rekon.

Really looking forward to seeing how this project goes, and chuffed to see it go to someone who isn't going to rip it apart.

Cheers Theo,

will see how it goes, I do have a 3.25 tucked away

the ratio's from the 333i handbook are
1st-3.717
2nd-2.403
3rd-1.766
4th-1.263
5th-1.000

the ZF is 25% lock with a 2.93:1 ratio

I use my cars for long distance quite a lot so it may work out ok !

[maxfield]

I wouldn't know, it was dark and I'm certain there was something more than werthers in the packet

[e30topless]

i personalty know 4 333 owners and none of them will let them go
of the 206 bmw sa built one was send to Britain and it looks like this might be it
the chassis no will be 333??? where the last 3 digits is the build number

the chassis number is 333 the build number is 149

also found a pic of what it may look like when done, Aerosilver

[AlpineAde]

Well done, Steve! And kudos to Pete for the assist.

We need a project thread stat, mate. Get to it and long may it unfold over the complete resto of this rare beastie. COngrats again.

[magpie]

have you took delivery of it yet Steve?

where's the pics

[StuBeeDoo]

this turd deserves to grace the roads again

Too right!
Steve, you're an E30 legend.

[StuBeeDoo]

You'll be changing that 2.91 for 3.46, 2.91 is tooo lazy

FWIW 2.93 with direct 5th is virtually identical to 3.64 with overdrive (0.81) 5th.