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i know this forum is about the e30...but im sure someone here will know

is the e36 much heavier and more or less powerful ?

any stats ? 1/4 mile etc ?
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most e30 325i can hold there own againts a e36 328i dont think theres much in it
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The back of performance bmw magazine has all the stats for nealry all the bmw's. 8)
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an e30 325 keeps up with an e36 328 ?

i live in the middle of nowhere and cant really be arsed driving to the shops on a lazy sunday, will have a look for it tommorow though :)
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Just looked up for you! E30 325i ... 0-60 in 8.3 E36 325i 0-60 in 8.0

170bhp (e30) vs 192 (e36)

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i had a d reg e30 325i my mate went out and spent 7500 on a e36 328i motorsport just to kick my ass oh how guttied was he when all he could see was my back lights on the a1m he got a lone to bye it and now he is paying back 10k just for me to kick his ass oh silly boy :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:56 pm

those times are rubbish in the magazines alot of e30 325's can do 0-60 in just under 7 secs and it's the same for e36 2.5's and 2.8's. But in terms of straight line speed theres hardly anything in it

unlooked after e30 2.5's can have cylinder head problems, cracked heads and gasket failure. there are not many now on the original heads! mine is though!

e36 2.5's bombproof pretty much apart from the odd head gasket on high milege cars 150k plus. but it is rare

e36 2.8's dreaded nikasil bore problems on the blocks 95% will have had replacement blocks by now and are a very strong engine.

u can tune a 2.8 easy with bolt on parts to add a good 15-20bhp for little expense to which takes some upto 220bhp

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well ive drove my mates one and it hasnt got as much pull as my old one and its slower top end he even aggres with me he wished he never got it and kept his e30 325i
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Artis wrote:well ive drove my mates one and it hasnt got as much pull as my old one and its slower top end he even aggres with me he wished he never got it and kept his e30 325i
sounds like theres summit wrong with it then.
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no theres not a thing wrong with it at all its been checked out thats wot we thought a frist mind you my old 325 e30 didnt have a limmiter and was very quick all the ones ive had since that one are much slower
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Artis wrote:no theres not a thing wrong with it at all its been checked out thats wot we thought a frist mind you my old 325 e30 didnt have a limmiter and was very quick all the ones ive had since that one are much slower
no 325 e30 has a limiter
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those times are rubbish in the magazines alot of e30 325's can do 0-60 in just under 7 secs
No they can't.[/quote]
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I drove an E36 328i and it was slow as sh*t, but the Z3 2.8 I drove just had BAGS and BAGS of tourque. Totally made me think about doing the covnersion!

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thanks :)
just to clarify...the e36 325 and 328 are about the same standard ? but the 328 is more restricted standard (read something about the inlet manifold)
and the e36 325 has 192 bhp standard, or is that the 328
I know some of the bmw's have names like 318 but are actually 1.9s or something like that...
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M50:
192 bhp 181 lb/ft torque

M52:
193 bhp 207lb/ft torque

Your right about the 328i inlet manifold ports mate and the 325i one can be made to fit :D:D:D:D:D:D

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ste wrote:
those times are rubbish in the magazines alot of e30 325's can do 0-60 in just under 7 secs
No they can't.

ive seen a road test of a phase one 325i sport with a timed 0-60 of 6.7
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Chaos wrote:
Artis wrote:no theres not a thing wrong with it at all its been checked out thats wot we thought a frist mind you my old 325 e30 didnt have a limmiter and was very quick all the ones ive had since that one are much slower
no 325 e30 has a limiter
they all have a rev limmiter
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never seen an injection without a limiter :?

i'm off to search what all these codes mean :lol:
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Artis wrote:
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Artis wrote:no theres not a thing wrong with it at all its been checked out thats wot we thought a frist mind you my old 325 e30 didnt have a limmiter and was very quick all the ones ive had since that one are much slower
no 325 e30 has a limiter
they all have a rev limmiter
ah thought u meant speed limiter.

i dont see how a lack of rev limiter will make ur car any faster tho - power will still run out at the same point.
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Sun Sep 04, 2005 5:09 pm

i happened to have a quick 325 tourer with 171bhp so i'll gtech it soon and reveal all noting that the gtech shows a flat 6secs for my 2.7, and these gtechs show same times when running on proper timing eg santa pod
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unless my car is exceptionally slow an E30 325 will not see off a 328.

My car has reasonable mods, cam, chip, exhaust, filter etc and could not beat a 328 down the 1/4 mile earlier in the summer. I did 15.9 standing 1/4 on 3 runs, although my starts were crap but the E36 328i I was pitched against beat me in the 3 runs, his quickest 1/4 was 14.7. I was personally disappointed with my times and hope to take nearly a second off them with better starts (reaction times were as abad as 1.2 secs) plus rmoving interior next time etc.

I got him off the line each time with the lighter car, but by 100yds he was pulling on me. He also had some pretty big ICE install which weighed a fair old bit
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I should think E30 and E36 325 will be about the same until about 80-90 mph, from there the E36 with less air drag will start to pull away from the E30 ?

Standard E30 325 V's standard 328, 328 should win in a straight line or in the bends.

But a lot comes down to how good the driver is.
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here's some pics of me against the E36, pics courtesy of Smithy318i
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there's a vid of it on www.Streetfire.net if you click on videos and then BMW it is on there somewhere, called "my first drag race"

Edit: link found http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.asp ... 07DCFC68CA
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No standard E30 325i would see off an E36 328i if both cars were stock, I don't care what anyone says. The 328i engines are pretty powerful and can easilly have a few moe ponies released.

If the guy who's mate with the E36 cab can't beat an old 325i then it's either not a 328 at all or there's something drastically wrong with it.
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Nice race e30beemerlad. Who won in the end? :cool:
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I have both and tbh the e30 feels quicker to about 40mph then the e38 328 comes in with a huge shove of torque that just propels it on ward and the accelleration doesnt seem to stop until 130ish.Deffo a heavier car but so much more refined.I love my e30 because its raw and more like a holigan,in fact i drive it a lot more on the edge than my 36.
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I would like to officially see off an E36 328i at Santa Pod :evil:
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you most definatly, will see him off mate :D
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Had some twin road test of the 325i Sport vs the (then) new e36 325i, aint got a scanner but the E30 pipped it to 60 and the E36 beat it to 100. But was very little in it either way.
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a e36 318 is heavier than a e28 535!!!!!!!! forget about the power thing and think of weight!!!! my e30 325 cab is just in front of a e36 325 coupe. and its a cab!!!! with all that extra weight
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thanks for the info people
although bm's have too many codes :lol:
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E30Adam wrote:No standard E30 325i would see off an E36 328i if both cars were stock, I don't care what anyone says. The 328i engines are pretty powerful and can easilly have a few moe ponies released.

If the guy who's mate with the E36 cab can't beat an old 325i then it's either not a 328 at all or there's something drastically wrong with it.
i'd agree with that, an e30 325 might run very close with an e36 325i, but once a 328i got into its stride an e30 would get well beat

i've raced quite a few 328is!
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if i had my old e30 i would have proved that it could see of the 328is but some horrable person or persons stole it and burnt it so there is no way to show you
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Artis wrote:if i had my old e30 i would have proved that it could see of the 328is but some horrable person or persons stole it and burnt it so there is no way to show you
Just wondering if it was modified by one of the previous owners with out you knowing like a cam/head work or converted to 2.7 ???
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