Bargain M3 3.5!
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it sounds like a jet 
a bit of exaggeration IMO, its faster but not by that much....bss325i wrote:A B6S would kill all variants of M3 in a straight line. 260bhp and pretty much the same tourque will do it!e30bmlover wrote:so what you are saying is mate... it would muller an s14..bss325i wrote:Also a alpina M30B35 has about 100lbft more tourque than an S14B23.
BMW Alpina B6S /M3 Sports EVO both by "Performance Car"
Displacement: 3430cc / 2467cc
Power: 260bhp @ 6000rpm / 238bhp @ 7000rpm
Torque: 237lb-ft @ 4000rpm / 177lb-ft @ 4750rpm
Test Weight: 3123 lb / 3131 lb
Diff: 2.79 / 3.15
0-60mph: 6.0s / 6.1s
0-100mph: 15.8s / 16.0s
1/4: 14.4s / 14.7s
Terminal @ 1/4: 96.3mph / 95.5mph
30-50mph (4th): 5.6s / 6.4s
30-50mph (top): 7.5s / 9.3s
Consumption: 20.8mpg / 25.7mpg
E30 325is with M20B31
Here is the translation of the advert from my friend. He's not so familiar with some of the technical terms but you might find it useful.
Original E30 M3 wih Alpina 3.5l G-Kat conversion [catalytic converter?] (6 Cylinder)
Entered in the registration document as Alpina-Motor Type 6 (a 6 digit Aplina number is etched on the cylinder head)
The vehicle was imported from Italy in 2000 and has since then only been registered on a HALTER?.
The converson occurred in 2003 and registered
Max registered speed limit 246 km/h
G-Kat Euro 1 ”“ gree environment placard
The leather fittings are new and in top A1 condition
On board computer
Electric windows
Electric sunroof
The vehicle is a used car with signs of wear and tear (corrosion on the rear wheel arches, underfloor). Therefore sale expressly only after viewing.
You can also call me on 0049 177- 8479094 [Rob ”“ this is a German mobile number)
Vehicle must be collected within 7 days and be paid for in CASH.
As this is a private auction any claims liability arising by guarantee and warranty as well any right of withdrawal is excluded.
Return likewise excluded!
Original E30 M3 wih Alpina 3.5l G-Kat conversion [catalytic converter?] (6 Cylinder)
Entered in the registration document as Alpina-Motor Type 6 (a 6 digit Aplina number is etched on the cylinder head)
The vehicle was imported from Italy in 2000 and has since then only been registered on a HALTER?.
The converson occurred in 2003 and registered
Max registered speed limit 246 km/h
G-Kat Euro 1 ”“ gree environment placard
The leather fittings are new and in top A1 condition
On board computer
Electric windows
Electric sunroof
The vehicle is a used car with signs of wear and tear (corrosion on the rear wheel arches, underfloor). Therefore sale expressly only after viewing.
You can also call me on 0049 177- 8479094 [Rob ”“ this is a German mobile number)
Vehicle must be collected within 7 days and be paid for in CASH.
As this is a private auction any claims liability arising by guarantee and warranty as well any right of withdrawal is excluded.
Return likewise excluded!
Look at the 30-50 times. Also another thing to note according to that, the sport evo weighs an extra 8lb! Not alot granted but you would think the "Boat anchor" B6S would be heavier?reggid wrote:a bit of exaggeration IMO, its faster but not by that much....bss325i wrote:A B6S would kill all variants of M3 in a straight line. 260bhp and pretty much the same tourque will do it!e30bmlover wrote: so what you are saying is mate... it would muller an s14..
BMW Alpina B6S /M3 Sports EVO both by "Performance Car"
Displacement: 3430cc / 2467cc
Power: 260bhp @ 6000rpm / 238bhp @ 7000rpm
Torque: 237lb-ft @ 4000rpm / 177lb-ft @ 4750rpm
Test Weight: 3123 lb / 3131 lb
Diff: 2.79 / 3.15
0-60mph: 6.0s / 6.1s
0-100mph: 15.8s / 16.0s
1/4: 14.4s / 14.7s
Terminal @ 1/4: 96.3mph / 95.5mph
30-50mph (4th): 5.6s / 6.4s
30-50mph (top): 7.5s / 9.3s
Consumption: 20.8mpg / 25.7mpg
Doesn't the Evo 3 have thiner glass and thinner boot plastics as well?
That will be an M88/1 though wont it, Not an M30?Theo325 wrote:tuned big six still sounds better to my ears - listen to it @ 3 minutes 50
Yeah a 24v head, but jesus, didn't it sound the f**king nuts.bss325i wrote:That will be an M88/1 though wont it, Not an M30?Theo325 wrote:tuned big six still sounds better to my ears - listen to it @ 3 minutes 50
Agreed its no bargain but the seller potentialy has paperwork to prove its a geuine Alpina B6/B10 spec M30.barryj wrote:That ain't no bargain, a rusty M3 missing its S14 with a motor of unknown origin and specification.....................
Oh yes, it sounds awesome! I think the M88/1 in race spec had slide throttle injection, possibly Kugelficher.Jon_Bmw wrote:Yeah a 24v head, but jesus, didn't it sound the f**king nuts.bss325i wrote:That will be an M88/1 though wont it, Not an M30?Theo325 wrote:tuned big six still sounds better to my ears - listen to it @ 3 minutes 50
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GrindCulture
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While we're on the subject of M88/1s:
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Not in E30s any more 
Good lordy lord, they really do sound amazing.
I'm going to make up a couple of 90 degree bends and fit them to the downpipes of the manifold on my m5 engine so they work as a side exit exhaust, just to hear what sort of noise it makes.
I'm going to make up a couple of 90 degree bends and fit them to the downpipes of the manifold on my m5 engine so they work as a side exit exhaust, just to hear what sort of noise it makes.
You probably need to increase the rev limit by a couple of thousand too!
It probably wouldn't be far off then, sadly that would cost 10's of thousands I suspect.
Unless that Joshy kid has a cheap fix?
It probably wouldn't be far off then, sadly that would cost 10's of thousands I suspect.
Jon_Bmw wrote:Unless that Joshy kid has a cheap fix?
While were are on the subject of the sound of M power 6's!
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GrindCulture
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E46 M3 CSL With straight through pipesbss325i wrote:While were are on the subject of the sound of M power 6's!
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Not in E30s any more 
How do you put the screen shot up?
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GrindCulture
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Put the youtube URL between the [youtube] [/youtube] bits. One of the best additions to the new zone IMO 
Not in E30s any more 
GrindCulture wrote:Put the youtube URL between the [youtube] [/youtube] bits. One of the best additions to the new zone IMO
Are you going for a carbon inlet then?barryj wrote:Thats what my S50 E30 is going to sound like!!! That is going to even annoy the Corsa brigade round my way.
well since we'er talking about big six in bmws. might as well make it in a e30. first 2 clips are with m5 carbon airbox. just found these vids on you tube.
Also the e46 csl with straight pipes sounds like the old Audi quattro group b rally car.
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Also the e46 csl with straight pipes sounds like the old Audi quattro group b rally car.
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winx
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Best engine ever - BMW S70 (yup I am biased!) and sounds lurvely. Such a hardship having to listen to them at work so often 
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GrindCulture
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Still the fastest N/A production car in the world IIRC? And it's 15 years old! Freaking awesome engine 
Not in E30s any more 
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thats the kiddie mate! how is she??bss325i wrote:Jon_Bmw wrote:Unless that Joshy kid has a cheap fix?![]()
While were are on the subject of the sound of M power 6's!
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e30bmlover
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@uck that sounds lovely.... it made me smile and say @ucking wars...GrindCulture wrote:E46 M3 CSL With straight through pipesbss325i wrote:While were are on the subject of the sound of M power 6's!![]()
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Its changed somewhat.e30bmlover wrote: thats the kiddie mate! how is she??
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=114364
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you dont @uck about barry! iv just read the thread... but the touring went for the greater good... the car will look smart when its finished... and that silver 2 door doing the slide looks the bolloks...bss325i wrote:Its changed somewhat.e30bmlover wrote: thats the kiddie mate! how is she??
http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... c&t=114364
i deliberately put the in-gear times to show where torque comes in to play but you don't race in top or 4th gear 30-50mph...... S14 30-50mph 2.5s thru gears B6S 2.6s so the M3 makes up for most of power and torque deficit with shorter gearing (torque multiplication) and higher redline.bss325i wrote:Look at the 30-50 times. Also another thing to note according to that, the sport evo weighs an extra 8lb! Not alot granted but you would think the "Boat anchor" B6S would be heavier?reggid wrote:a bit of exaggeration IMO, its faster but not by that much....bss325i wrote: A B6S would kill all variants of M3 in a straight line. 260bhp and pretty much the same tourque will do it!
BMW Alpina B6S /M3 Sports EVO both by "Performance Car"
Displacement: 3430cc / 2467cc
Power: 260bhp @ 6000rpm / 238bhp @ 7000rpm
Torque: 237lb-ft @ 4000rpm / 177lb-ft @ 4750rpm
Test Weight: 3123 lb / 3131 lb
Diff: 2.79 / 3.15
0-60mph: 6.0s / 6.1s
0-100mph: 15.8s / 16.0s
1/4: 14.4s / 14.7s
Terminal @ 1/4: 96.3mph / 95.5mph
30-50mph (4th): 5.6s / 6.4s
30-50mph (top): 7.5s / 9.3s
Consumption: 20.8mpg / 25.7mpg
Doesn't the Evo 3 have thiner glass and thinner boot plastics as well?
those are test weights (crew + equipment) the unladed weights below
M3 2626lbs
B6S 2920lbs
E30 325is with M20B31







