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Post Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:35 pm

Today I fitted my B&M short shift and oh my god what a difference, the shifting is so short and precise. I bought it way back before I knew about the zone and the use of alternative BMW parts to acheive short shifting.

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For anyone that hasn't done a short shift mod of some sort I would highly recommend you do :D If I'd known about the Z3 levers I would have used one of them as they're much cheaper and I'm sure would acheive the same/similiar results.

Just thought I'd share my happiness :cool:
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Post Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:41 pm

I had one of those fitted to my M3 years ago and I absolutely agree with you - fantastic!
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Post Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:32 pm

Completely agree I've done 3 cars now inc. an E46 & and an E36 - everyone who tries it on my gearbox wants me to install one in theirs :cool:
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Post Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:01 pm

Just been out for a drive down some nice twisty country roads so I could have a proper play with my shifter.... 8) it's sooooo nice going: gear-neutral-gear instead of: gear------neutral------gear if you know what I mean.
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Post Sat Jun 03, 2006 8:04 pm

"snick" :)
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Post Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:24 pm

Yeah Ive the 1.9 Z3 shifter in mine and its 100times nicer than the normal sport one.
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Post Sat Jun 03, 2006 10:59 pm

Ive got one but its in my boot!!! What sort of job is it to fit?? Ive done loads but never done a stick change!
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2006 9:32 am

Falkster wrote:Ive got one but its in my boot!!! What sort of job is it to fit?? Ive done loads but never done a stick change!
Easy mate, did mine in about half an hour :D

I found this in halfords for the pricely sum of £4.99 and made by Lazer, you can clip it onto the exhaust heat shield so you can see what your doing :wink:

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Post Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:43 pm

charlE30 wrote:I found this in halfords for the pricely sum of £4.99 and made by Lazer, you can clip it onto the exhaust heat shield so you can see what your doing :wink:
Is that a battery powered LED?
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:46 pm

As far as I know they all fit but the ones from the larger engine Z3's are shorter still and a little notchier when going into gear. I went for the 1.9 Z3 one as its just nice and its still easy to get into gear.
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2006 1:49 pm

Reading the article on here http://www.e30zone.co.uk/modules.php?na ... echnz3.htm it comes across that it applies to all E30's. The difference in all the Z3 shifters would be the length from the ball joint to selector rod, I know with the shorter throw ones you'd have to bend the selector rod to clear the vibration damper on the prop as the length between B/joint/S/rod is greater.

I was lucky with my B&M as it raises the ball joint in a CNC'd housing so that the selector rod is in exactly the same position as the standard shifter.

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Post Sun Jun 04, 2006 3:43 pm

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charlE30 wrote:I found this in halfords for the pricely sum of £4.99 and made by Lazer, you can clip it onto the exhaust heat shield so you can see what your doing :wink:
Is that a battery powered LED?
Yes mate, it has three and puts out a nice white light. I think it could be my cheapest most handiest tool yet :D
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:11 pm

Adammcf wrote:As far as I know they all fit but the ones from the larger engine Z3's are shorter still and a little notchier when going into gear. I went for the 1.9 Z3 one as its just nice and its still easy to get into gear.
Adam,

What was the price of this can you remember?

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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:22 pm

Hey, does this thing get the car into gear quicker?

if so, how much to buy, which one to get for my 316 and who will fit it for me? :D

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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:55 pm

jon_pure_british wrote:Hey, does this thing get the car into gear quicker?

if so, how much to buy, which one to get for my 316 and who will fit it for me? :D

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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:02 pm

When you say get the z3 one do u mean a proper BMW one from the dealer for about £35 ish? And to confirm, it must be from a 4 cylinder z3 not the 2.8 etc.

I've just taken delivery of a gearbox to convert my auto over to manual. I was thinking of putting a short shift on before installing the box.
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:15 pm

john325tewerin wrote:When you say get the z3 one do u mean a proper BMW one from the dealer for about £35 ish? And to confirm, it must be from a 4 cylinder z3 not the 2.8 etc.

I've just taken delivery of a gearbox to convert my auto over to manual. I was thinking of putting a short shift on before installing the box.
I'm pretty sure that you can use both the 1.9 and the 2.8, the 2.8 is tighter though I think, so the 1.9 z3 one would be best. Short throw and very smooth changes. Installing the short shift while the gearbox is out would be better too.

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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:19 pm

2.8's the best :P
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 1:51 pm

2.8 lever has the shortest throw, but gives a notchier (is that a word :mad: ) gear change. It maybe a little harsh for everyday driving, especially round town, but I guess that depends on driving style.

The 1.9 lever is the best compromise as its a vast improvement over the E30 lever and still keeps the change fairly smooth, although I found you do have to be precise when changing gears.

I cant find the receipt for mine, but I bought my Z3 1.9 lever and a few other things from my local dealer and all in was just over £30 - I do get discount though winkeye
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:13 pm

The 2.8 is a little hard work to start with, but about 2 mins later you're used to it & then the 1.9 seems lame...
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:13 pm

That B&M one sounds ok though as u don't have to "modify" the selector rod. I suppose it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. :)
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:25 pm

if the z3 1.9 is 35£ ish

whats the B &M one £ ??
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:07 pm

Ive seen the B&M shifters for £195 8O

Or 2 mins with a lump hammer and one modded selector rod later - nice and cheap shortshift :D

Even if you replace all the other parts like the O-rings and even the selector rod and exhaust gasket from the dealers, it will only cost you around £55.
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:27 pm

HOW MUCH!! 8O

Who'd pay that? Must be crackers :mad:
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:38 pm

theres a couple of different kits for the e30 with the B+M levers,one 35% shorter @£151 and another 20% shorter for £190. the one in the pic in your original post is 25% shorter for £195 .ive been thinking about one of these for a while but never new if they were worth it or just a waste of time.its my slow and sloppy gear changes that seriously slows me down at the traffic light grand prix winkeye the cosworth one gives me a 30% shorter throw for £203.i think i might just invest in one now winkeye
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Post Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:24 pm

What about THIS off ebay. 45-55% shorter for £30.

And THIS
with a 35% reduction.