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Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:42 am

as some already might know, for reasons totally unknown i'm a bit of a fan of rover metros. not the old a-series ones, crippled by ancient engines, but the k-series cars.

my first car was a j-reg 1.4 8v GTa, 'peppy' handled well, and was reasonable to insure as a 19 year old.

then, 2 years later i bought an l-reg 1.4 gti, with the 103bhp multipoint injection 16v engine, the most comfortable and supportive standard seats of any car ive driven, and an engine i tried to kill every journey but it just kept coming back for more (shame the alternator mounts weren't quite so robust!

a few years later, when the gti was a second car to my integrale a friend let me know of his friend who needed to sell his 1.8 engined metro, for a decent price.

unfortunately the car was rotten scrap, fortunately the 1.8 engine cam with a set of jenvey throttlebodies and an emerald m3dk standalone ecu,

eventually ending up as this...
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(i was young and daft :mad: )

it was looking scruffy, the standard colour was a sod to match so i painted it, in a small garage, with aerosols in rover charcoal metallic, painting the bumpers matt black for a more oem look,
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at one point i even had 3 cars taxed, mot'd and insured at the same time...
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it was a hoot, noisy stripped out, light, with a lovely smooth tractable engine with a proper throttlebody bark. it went well too. performance pretty much identical to the m3.

sadly, the use and abuse started to show, despite looking good on the outside it was starting to get scruffy underneath, rotting in places too awkward to repair, and too many irreverable modifications which i loved at the time but don't suit my current tastes.

so...

last summer i spotted something on ebay, i just could ignor it, even the mrs ok'd it..

a j-reg, white, non suroof, 3door 1.1c with only 24000 miles from new. no rot, never welded, only the very smallest amount of rear arch rust, which they all suffer from, even at only a few years old, let alone 20.

ultra low spec, no rear wiper, windy windows, i piece folding rear seat, no central locking, no rev counter, 4 gears and a carb with manual choke. not even a cassette player, just an analogue radio with a single speaker, this is exactly as it was when i collected it,
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even inside the bootlid, where they all tend to rot around the numberplate lights and lock holes was totally factory fresh
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so i removed the lights and bumpers, gave it a damn good clean
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and have hidden it away in a garage surrounded by junk waiting for the day i have the time and space to do a full ground up rebuild with the best bits from my other one
:twisted: :mad:
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and an ancient vid taken from my e30 before it was mine, with my blue metro in front. http://www.youtube.com/user/harroldino1 ... yfLOBp3ryo
Last edited by harry_p on Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:54 pm, edited 1 time in total.
cheers,

harry
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Thu Jun 23, 2011 12:38 pm

8O 8O

Now that is sick behaviour.. Deviant of the highest order!
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Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:13 am

a decent head and cams and it's an easy 180bhp, the basic cars weigh around 820kg, so it should be easy to get well under 800.

i'm thinking banded steelies, standard wheel trims, a drop, and keep the rest of the outside pretty much exactly as it is at the moment. original supplying dealer plates, window sticker and tax disk holder.

i'd like to keep it a bit nicer inside than the blue one. no door cars, carpet, headliner etc meant a constant breeze, and the whole thing felt like an ice box in winter :D
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Fri Jun 24, 2011 7:03 am

Get it built and get it to a meet! I want to have a go :lol:

I've always loved the metro since I saw you post it on another forum.
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Fri Jun 24, 2011 8:48 am

dam why does this forum not have a subscribe button! ill forget about his thread!
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Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:23 pm

I'll make sure I update it should I manage to do anything to it.

Probably won't be for a while though, got the remains of a lancia to strip, a 1972 vw camper to do pretty much a ground up restoration on, an e30 m3 to sort out as well as routine maintenance / mods on the e36 and mk2 plus normal work and family stuff!

Most of the fleet in the same place at the same time a couple of weeks ago...
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Might start a thread on the camper at some point too if anyone can handle the wrongness :D
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Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:50 am

:cool: yeaaaaaah good man, i still miss mine :mad:
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Sat Jun 25, 2011 12:51 am

Some quality motors mate! But the metro pocket rocket is awesome! I've been trying to convince te young lad at work to naff his rover 25 off and get a metro gti. Almost won him over... then came the insurance quote 8O its near impossible to justify £4,500 a year for a metro!!!
I'll check with the manager
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Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:25 pm

TouringMatt wrote::cool: yeaaaaaah good man, i still miss mine :mad:
did you ever see mine after it got 1.8'd? the part powerflow part universal, part standard part janspeed matt welded exhaust sounded even better with a bit more gas pumping through it. i think the idle rumble might give the game away if the new one is going to be a sleeper :mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_PLOp7dQc
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Mon Jun 27, 2011 7:33 pm

Looks awesome! I do quite enjoy playing around in Metro's :o:

I know it's wrong but I love the rims on the blue one and think they could look awesome on an E30. Do you know what they are/the PCD?
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Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:06 pm

theyre compomotive th2, i had to order them as a one off set as noone makes wheels with the k-series metros silly pcd.

theyre 6x15 et44, 4x3.75in = 4x95.25mm

they look big on a metro, but the 6x15s are normally seem with skinny chunky treaded tyres used as forest or snow / ice wheels on group n mitsi evos and the like. they do (or used to do) loads of other diameters, widths and offsets though. don't think ive seen a set on an e30 yet, but they could look superb 8)
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Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:39 pm

Harry,

I am in the 'like' camp obviously. What a good fun chariot that must be. I should imagine it would suprise a few people if they didn't hear the throttle bodies bark.

What is the engine spec on it then?

Standard head / MS2 / VVC?

I think we have one good MS2 head left at work, but don't want to sell it, because getting another is a drama!

I've just scored a bit of a touch with a set of throttle bodies for my mi16 last week for not a lot. Looking forward to popping them on in a few months time. Just ordered myself an Emerald to play about with as well. I can't wait for the noise. :)
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Mon Jun 27, 2011 10:51 pm

the engine is pretty standard tbh. just a solid cam 118bhp lump, running a pair of vvc exhaust cams, one as inlet, one as exhaust, which have slightly more duration and lift than piper reground standard cams, janspeed 4-2-1 tubular manifold, decat, dth throttle bodies with short carbon trumpets, pipercross socks, 1.4 flywheel and rover 216 gearbox and clutch.

it goes pretty well as it is, but would really fly with a vvc or vhpd head and suitably lumpy sticks.

the emerald is a superb bit of kit, worth every penny and so easy to setup and tweek 8)
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Mon Jun 27, 2011 11:15 pm

Youre one sick freak Harry!!
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 11:32 am

harry_p wrote:don't think ive seen a set on an e30 yet, but they could look superb 8)
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:D
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Tue Jun 28, 2011 3:39 pm

Hmm not 100% sure on that, needs a bit of size, tyre, offset tweaking.

I always wanted to get a set of alloy disks made up to sflathead against the raised middle section of the wheel and extend past it like the old rally car cooling disks 8)
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Wed Jun 29, 2011 8:03 am

sick cars man! 10/10 for that collection
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Sat Jul 02, 2011 1:09 pm

harry_p wrote:
TouringMatt wrote::cool: yeaaaaaah good man, i still miss mine :mad:
did you ever see mine after it got 1.8'd? the part powerflow part universal, part standard part janspeed matt welded exhaust sounded even better with a bit more gas pumping through it. i think the idle rumble might give the game away if the new one is going to be a sleeper :mad:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V_PLOp7dQc
Nope, only ever heard it as a 1.4 - sounds good on that clip.

Im sure with a little tweaking you could add a diverter valve in and keep it standard looking from the back winkeye
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