Geneva Motor Show

[Royalratch]

The 959 is a legendary car.

You lot like cars that look correct with a young homo by your side.

Hairy chest cars FTW.

No comments in the Alfa SZ - awesome car that

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No comments in the Alfa SZ - awesome car that

..if you want a car styled by Robert Opron you need an SM, a car that looks so good it doesn't matter whether it works or not

[pacerpete]

No comments in the Alfa SZ - awesome car that

..if you want a car styled by Robert Opron you need an SM, a car that looks so good it doesn't matter whether it works or not

This ^ this ^ and ^ this !

Art that can be driven (sometimes, maybe,preferrably with 5 star breakdown assistance on call)

Ratch, you have obviously spent to much time looking at the mood wall while desperately searching for ideas to get council types / dead cooonts into Daewoos !

The Alfa SZ is a contrived looking sorry lump. It makes a Bricklin look cutting edge and finished. It is of no historical or technological significance. Its USP is solely its "look at me I'm foooking ugly" shock and awe affect. The sort of car that the proletariat and your friends Kos and Rav may aspire to !



PS I actually do agree that the SZ is a cool car , solely because it is so poorly resolved and ugly.

[Andyboy]

Opron also did the CX and the GS, two technalogical and styling marvels. Modern cars are like chart music. It's mostly bland shite designed to appease the limited imagination of morons. That's why I played 'rumours' and 'hotter than july' back to back this afternoon. Old is where it's at, but only proper stuff.

[Royalratch]

That's why I like the SZ - it's just mental.

The 959 I love because it was that V the F40 through my childhood.

Sub 3sec 0-60 in 1988!!!???

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That's why I like the SZ - it's just mental.

The 959 I love because it was that V the F40 through my childhood.

Sub 3sec 0-60 in 1988!!!???

But Ratch, known mouth breathers like Rav, Kos and Soni have big stained pics of the 959 and SZ on their bedroom walls, surely this must make you reconsider your choice, or at least , file it away under 'guilty secret' .

That is where I keep my '81 Imperial, Peugeot 604 and Consul Capri material

[Royalratch]

It can withstand a minor chav following.

I've been in one of the 2 Paris Dakar winners so I have the cred to pull it off.

It's a bit obvious but at the time there was only 911s or the 928!

Which is kind of cool actually. A 968CS is nice too.

Is throw a late Esprit in White in there too.

[pacerpete]

It can withstand a minor chav following.

I've been in one of the 2 Paris Dakar winners so I have the cred to pull it off.

It's a bit obvious but at the time there was only 911s or the 928!

Which is kind of cool actually. A 968CS is nice too.

Is throw a late Esprit in White in there too.

Minor ? We are talking Kos, Rav and Soni here ! Soni has an E46 M3 FFS (not that you would have ever guessed ) he has had to have carbon inserts fitted to his knuckles due to excessive dragging and his flock velvet bedroom wallpaper was purchased in a Laura Ashley shop in 1973 !

[Andyboy]

A 968CS is nice too.

Is throw a late Esprit in White in there too.

No.

No no no no.


Water cooled Porsches. No. Well, except for proper stuff like the Carrera GT and the original 4.7 928S and 928S2. An early steel wheeled 924 has paedo appeal but 968's? No. You may just get away with a guards red 944 Turbo, but only just.

As for Esprits, only the early ones cut it in the style dept. I'd rather push an S1 than drive one of the rounded facelift ones. Given how reliable the S1 is(n't), pushing is a likely scenario but when going, they're just delighful. Really nimble, well balanced, light and rorty. And in white or a bright primary colour...............

I once had to drive a 1990's Esprit Turbo from the dealership I worked at to the customers house near Wycome, at night. It was hateful. Cramped, difficult and just a pain in the rectum. I got to the customers house, dropped this turd off and swapped with the Mitsubishi Galant loaner. A vastly superior vehicle.

[Royalratch]

None of these motors are about being any good people! They're pure random completely subjective lust.

[Andyboy]

True, but 968's are so Pistonheads. Not cool.

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968s are so terminally uncool that a zoner currently owns one ! If you are still unsure of how uncool they are, I had one in the late 90s , it was amethyst metallic with a wombfest of a purple interior . At the time I thought I was an executive but the reality was I was just discovering my inner gayness The fact that something expensive went wrong with it every month only compounded my dislike of Porsches

[Royalratch]

A 969 in the Lego Blue is cool. Like a good suit, its all about how you rock it.

[Royalratch]

Truth be told, this is right up my strasse - in this colour.

Needs some orange strpes tho.

[Royalratch]

No.

No no no no.

Yes Yes Yes.

[pony]

Fuck all that shit the Ferrari 355 is GORGEOUS

Lot of exciting cars at Geneva
LaFerrari
P1
New Lambo
991 GT3 PDK
My favourite is the new Ferrari can't argue with a high revving NA V12 and looks nicer than the McLaren

[Royalratch]

Yeh but whats up with that name - such a cheesy brand these days.

[Andyboy]

**** all that shit the Ferrari 355 is GORGEOUS

Lot of exciting cars at Geneva
LaFerrari
P1
New Lambo
991 GT3 PDK
My favourite is the new Ferrari can't argue with a high revving NA V12 and looks nicer than the McLaren

I could argue with it.

Modern Fezzas do nothing for me, along with Lamborghinis, Maseratis or the McLaren MP12 HY6-98 PT4 23C Subsection 12 or whatever it's called. I couldn't care less how fast it goes. I wouldn't cross the road to look at any of them because the era of the supercar has been and gone. They just have such a bad image now I wouldn't wish to be seen in one. Porsche has become a w@nker brand and an Aston Martin is as far as I'd go.
The thing about supercars of old is the era they were born into, when 5 cars out of every 100 were Cortinas, you rarely saw a BMW (sorry, B.M.W) and you never saw a Ferrari. There's just something so un-exotic about the current breed and the romance has just gone.

[Kos]

The problem is that they are all Hypercars and the worst out of the lot of then is the Veyron all built as some sort of cock waiving experiment

However the attention to detail and bespoke / custom manufacturing that goes into building a Pagani is simply jaw dropping. The front suspension & hub assembly is a work of art.

There is nothing worse than seeing a high end car like a Bentley with VAG stamped parts fitted.

The 959 is okay, but I'd never go fast enough or drive it well enough to appreciate what it can do. A 70's or 80's 911 Turbo will do for me.

That silver 930 turbo we saw at the NEC was stunning and possiy the perfect Porsche

A 969 in the Lego Blue is cool. Like a good suit, its all about how you rock it.

Riviera blue is the colour

[Andyboy]

There is nothing worse than seeing a high end car like a Bentley with VAG stamped parts fitted.

Bentley = VAGs for WAGs.

Pagani are ORSUM. Not my cup of tea but you can see why they've made it. I don't think I've seen one in the flesh. The rest of them are just whoring themselves - Maserati are making a US built SUV (I kijd you not) and apparently are replacing the Maser V8 in the 4P with some Chrysler derived unit. Great.

Of all the supercars on the 2000's, the Veyron will go down as the classic. When a manufacturer loses money on a million quid car, it has to be pretty tremendous.

[Low_E30]

Of all the supercars on the 2000's, the Veyron will go down as the classic. When a manufacturer loses money on a million quid car, it has to be pretty tremendous.

The Veyron was definently the 'concorde moment' for the motor car, the like we're not likely to see again in a hurry... but I think the Enzo will defo go down as a classic, maybe not F40 proportions, but its perhaps already more loved than its predecessor the F50?....

A sure sign is, have they not already appreciated in value? (Not sure how much they were new, to be honest)