Engine Cranking but not starting

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Ch4ni
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Sat Apr 16, 2022 9:47 pm

Hi, I need help to diagnose why my engine will not start. It has been working fine until yesterday when it refuses to fire up. Prior to the engine refusing to fire up, the engine used to fire up and when it got up to temp it would then stall and die, It would refuse to restart again, I would have to leave for a bit it, then it will fire up again without an issue.

I changed the following:
1) Crank Sensor
2) Camshaft sensor
3) Fuel Pump & Filter

After changing the above the engine fired up and run fine, but from yesterday it is now refusing to fire up. I checked the fuel, the fuel is coming through as the plugs are wet. I then tried to see if the plugs are sending the spark and there i no spark on the plugs.

I did the M52B28 conversion 2 years ago and it been working fine until recently. Have stock ECU with EWS wired as detailed in this forum,

Can anyone advise what could be causing this issue?
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Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:19 am

I have been trying to fault find this issue, it seems to be happening intermittently after fiddling with the engine loom, engine fires up, then when I leave it overnight it wont start again,.

Has anyone experienced this? I can do with some help to fault find what looks like to be an electrical issue
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Mon Apr 25, 2022 1:18 pm

There is good advice in the Wiki if you follow it methodically you should get to the fault.

Where do you wiggle the loom for the symptom to change that would be a good start.

Popular intermittent causes are the DME and Fuel pump relays they get dry solder joints inside that get a high resistance as it gets hotter, also on M20 the round connecter under the inlet manifold gets corroded and affects the temperature signal sent to the DME causing incorrect fuelling.
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:30 am

Hi fixedwheelnut,
Thank you for your feedback, I have checked most of what you have detailed and still no joy. I have noticed that the car is fitted with a factory car alarm its been in the car ever since I owned it but never used it as do have the key fob to arm/disarm the unit. I am wondering if this could have developed a issue and be causing the issue. I would like to remove it from the car as I can see it is wired into the fuse box. below the unit that is in my car.

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Would anyone know how to remove this completely?
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Tue Apr 26, 2022 5:07 pm

That looks very very similar to the unit I had on mine (from the dealer). I think there was a connection to one of these relays. Once I bypassed that, the alarm system was defeated. It might be worth checking those to see if yours is wired in a similar way (although you say the plugs are wet, so likely not the fuel plug relay...)

When I removed mine, it was a case of finding each factory wire it connected to, and reconnecting them. Mostly, it'd be one factory wire cut in half with the alarm wired in series. I think only one cable pair (the ones to the relay, which I think were purple?) impacted the starting - the rest were for power, or flashing the indicators etc. That said, it's been about 7 years since I removed it, so my memory is hazy...

https://www.e30zone.net/e30wiki/index.php/Relays (Either the main, or fuel pump)
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Thu Apr 28, 2022 12:24 am

Ch4ni wrote:
Tue Apr 26, 2022 11:30 am
Hi fixedwheelnut,
Thank you for your feedback, I have checked most of what you have detailed and still no joy. I have noticed that the car is fitted with a factory car alarm its been in the car ever since I owned it but never used it as do have the key fob to arm/disarm the unit. I am wondering if this could have developed a issue and be causing the issue. I would like to remove it from the car as I can see it is wired into the fuse box. below the unit that is in my car.

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Would anyone know how to remove this completely?
The two top left wires are the immobiliser cut [yellow/ black and Purple/black] trace them back, probably behind the glovebox.
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Thu May 05, 2022 4:39 pm

Update: I have managed to fix the issue, it turned out to be the transponder in my key was intermittently making contact with the magnetic ring, this was causing the engine not to start. I reposition the transponder in key so that it can be picked up by the magnetic ring and all is working working fine now.

I guess the plus side is I now know my EWS is working as expected and a great addition to not having one at all.

I am still looking to remove the alarm unit. I traced the yellow/black wire, this seems to be connected to fuse 11 (Fuel Pump). I will keep investigating this and will eventually remove once I have traced all the wires.
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Thu May 05, 2022 4:52 pm

Good news mate, keep us updated about the alarm please.

Mart.
Only the E46 cab left now.
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Fri May 06, 2022 8:54 am

martauto wrote:
Thu May 05, 2022 4:52 pm
Good news mate, keep us updated about the alarm please.

Mart.
Will do once I have removed it successfully I will provide an update on how I did it.
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Fri May 06, 2022 1:46 pm

:clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:

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