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Wed May 05, 2010 2:43 pm

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Not sure, Ive not seen any figures, but knowing the guys who built it, I would be surprised if there wasnt gains - they have apparently done good work on a few Porsches.

Im sure Dave must have some before and after figures.
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Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:59 pm

Dave_M3 wrote:What was the result on the rollers with the Frtizbits manifold?

DanThe wrote:
Gunni wrote:So there is no manifold that just fits in there?
If only...

Fritz bitz do a manifold for about £900
There is actually :wink:
Are you gonna let us in on this???

I am just about to start and dont want to be cutting and shutting!
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Thu Nov 25, 2010 9:46 am

Well...

Spent a half hour or so a day for the last coupla days reading this beast of a thread winkeye some awesome info in here albeit some of it mixed up with s50 conversion talk.

I have a couple of questions:

I'll be putting a deposit on a 325i m50 either today or tomorrow, and hopefully either collecting or getting it delivered next week. It's an engine w/box, so what i'm wondering is would it be worth keeping the box that comes with the engine, or would one of the other options be preffered (m42 box + m20 lightened fly + m20 starter + what prop?) due to the dual mass clutch on the m50?

What brake upgrades are recommended? Mine's a 318i poverty spec, so marvelous drums on the rear :roll:

And finally, does anyone have exact measurements for the changes needed to be made to the m52 manifolds so that i could just have them sent off to a fabricator with instructions instead of having to wait til the conversion's done and send the car off to get it done? I'll be getting the e36 rack swap done while the engine's out and if i understand correctly there's slightly more mani modification needed in this instance?

Thanks for the info in the thread so far guys, and any assistance with my questions above would be much appreciated 8)
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Thu Nov 25, 2010 11:48 pm

Did you read my thread phil?

even though its for an M52, the same work applies to the M50 swap.


Doesn't matter what gearbox you use really. use whichever box suits the LSD you can get hold of really.
I would probably pick an M42 box as its alittle more straight forward and the ratios are closer together on it than the other gearboxes and it'll be plenty strong enough for what you want.

For brakes, a decent set of vented fronts and rear discs will do fine unless you want to go alittle fancier and have more stopping power with 4-pots.


The manifolds only need minor tweaking in places for the standard rack but for the E36 rack, they need a good deal more but nothing impossible.
M42 rightness above 6500rpm, nobody can hear you scream
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Fri Nov 26, 2010 9:50 am

Yeah i'm pretty sure i read it a week or two ago amongst all the other m5x conversion threads i've been cramming into my head :P

How does the m42 box work out as being more straight forward? The kit i'll be getting is the one Ben's selling, i'm putting the deposit on it today, it's the full engine/box/loom etc so i was considering not changing the box and flywheel and stuff since it'll already have a useable box attached to it.

Yeah, it'll be the e36 rack going in when the engine does come out. Does anyone have the measurements? I'd rather be able to drop the mani's off to be fabricated than have to get the car transported somewhere to get them cut n shut
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Fri Nov 26, 2010 7:43 pm

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RENAULT-CLIO-PETR ... 3efdcf92dc

Right just looking for a few bits for my m52 swap. does this look like the right ? also would this be a fair price as im unable to get to a breakers atmo because im working 6 day weeks many thanks gary
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Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:44 pm

Yeah, that servo looks like the right one.


@ Phil.

The M42 box is more straight forward as there is little more straight forward as its all E30 parts needed for it to work and you don't need a 2.93-3.38 diff. A common E30 3.64-4.1 etc will work with the iS box. The E36 328 clutch and flywheel will fit inside the M42 box fine anyway but I wouldn't use it as dual-mass flywheels are very gay!

I'll be doing another M52 swap over Christmas if you want me to sort a set of manifolds for you.
I must make a jig this time for them as I didn't have time to do it for the last one.
M42 rightness above 6500rpm, nobody can hear you scream
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 12:21 am

been offered a E34 525 sump, oil pickup pipe & dipstick tube from a h plate does this sound too early to have m50? also £50 delivered sound ok??
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 1:41 pm

Yeah that'd be awesome Dave.

So...

m42 box, m20 clutch w/lightened flywheel, m20 gear linkages + current z3 shortshifter/bearing.

Is that right?

@Garymillscab: off topic, but whereabouts in b'mouth you from? I grew up in littledown :)
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Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:44 pm

wallisdown mate not far from littledown how long ago di ya move?

also anyone know if thats correct sump and price?
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:05 pm

Ah yeah, i knew wallisdown well :D lived round the corner from aldi there for a while.
Been in ireland since 2004 :)
Don't know the answer to your question though i'm afraid :o:
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Wed Dec 01, 2010 9:09 pm

Yeah, a H-plate will have an M50 and50 delivered is a good price to me for a sump, pickup and dip-stick :wink:


Just give me a shout when your starting on it Phil and I'll let you know what the craic is on it and when I'm going making the set for that one I'll be doing soon.
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Thu Nov 17, 2011 4:03 pm

2.5 years ago, Hoshy asked if someone was prepared to Wiki the contents of this thread.

Here you go:

http://www.e30zone.net/e30zonewiki/index.php/M5x


The rest of the info will be added as I go through all the other threads in this forum...
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Tue Jan 03, 2012 12:29 am

hi needed some help on a list that i will need to do this conversion i am converting my e30 convertible 318i engine with an e36 328i engine

i have basically got an auto 318i cab and i also bought a e36 328i coupe R reg manual doner car

what other parts will i need and what will i need out of my e36
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Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:52 pm

[quote="Dave_M3"]Yeah, that servo looks like the right one.


@ Phil.

The M42 box is more straight forward as there is little more straight forward as its all E30 parts needed for it to work and you don't need a 2.93-3.38 diff. A common E30 3.64-4.1 etc will work with the iS box. The E36 328 clutch and flywheel will fit inside the M42 box fine anyway but I wouldn't use it as dual-mass flywheels are very gay!

im nearly finished doing a m52 conversion using the m42 box and can assure you the duel mass does not fit as i was hoping to use for the moment, it hits the bell housing..
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Tue Apr 09, 2013 11:16 am

I ran an M40 box with an M50 dual mass fly for a while so it must just be certain combinations.
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