yet another m30 swap

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Wed May 12, 2010 7:59 am

hi,

im finally about to begin my swap, just a few questions. (sorry im new to this so they mayu sound abit thick)

whats the second box next to the ecu for?

when removing an engine is it best to completely remove the loom or just detach it from the body and save time maybe?

My rad from the 535 fits perfectly between the legs of the e30, i assume that this should be okay to cool the car aslong as it fits and doesnt touch the engine?

I have a sigma alarm in the 535, is this likely to cause may problem?

and lastly, i heard some used a 325 prop but swapped something over from the back of the gearbox? does anyone have the part number for this? i think it was leeparkers conversation.



Thanks in advance, i will get some picture up later.
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Wed May 12, 2010 11:11 pm

1, leave it in the donor its not needed

2, detatch it from the body

3, yep there fine, Ravs using one

4, if its been cut into the loom just cut it out and rejoin the wires

5, that will be me, few others have gone down the same route with no problems, you use the gearbox flange from a 325i (must be 325i, 320i isnt the same) flanges brand new are not cheap, one guy i know brought a 325i box for £30 took the flange off then sold the box on, use 325i prop & gear linkage too



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Thu May 13, 2010 8:56 pm

thanks lee,

i have lots f pictures on my phone, but its not connecting to my laptop atm

need some mounts. i will pm you tomorrow or monday depends when i get paid.

the alarm is not connected to the ecu that im using so should be okay.

i got a few questions but cannot uplaod the pictures!
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Thu May 13, 2010 9:12 pm

Good to see another one about to get underway .
Good luck with it not that you'll need it as just post up any issue you have like i did and their some sorted.
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Fri May 14, 2010 10:28 am

finally got some pictures up:

this is what the 535 looks like at the moment:

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whats this bit for:

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its where the 2 looms meet, do i need to be concerned with it?

Engine loom wise is there any thing else i need to tak with me other then this lot in the picture:

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Fri May 14, 2010 10:36 am

Also anyone know what this battery is worth, it came out the 535:

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it is new and i cannot find much info on it, not sure whether to sell it or not
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Fri May 14, 2010 11:30 am

That's a 720amp battery, if relativley new, should be woth about £50-£60, but more when New.
That plug, is it on the engine loom or car loom?
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Fri May 14, 2010 12:56 pm

If I remember correctly rav it's connects the engine loom n car look together
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Fri May 14, 2010 1:01 pm

Was that connected??and is your e34 a manual?
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Fri May 14, 2010 3:51 pm

Rav335uk wrote:Was that connected??and is your e34 a manual?
yeah it was connected and yes its a manual should i be worried?
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Fri May 14, 2010 5:12 pm

Not seen that on my M30 loom???
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Fri May 14, 2010 7:53 pm

Rav335uk wrote:Not seen that on my M30 loom???
your getting me worried now, i will check on sunday,

In the last pic, have i taken all the correct connections off?
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Fri May 14, 2010 7:55 pm

Anything attached to the engine needs to be taken out with it, don't forget the earth strap too, looks like its all there.
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Fri May 14, 2010 9:28 pm

That white plug is not needed

All you need is the main loom and ECU, main live cable and thats about it, as rav said it helps to keep the earth strap



Edit: will that battery fit in the E30? mines similar to that and 'just' fits, cranks the M30 over lovely :D
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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Fri May 14, 2010 9:43 pm

leeparkes wrote:That white plug is not needed

All you need is the main loom and ECU, main live cable and thats about it, as rav said it helps to keep the earth strap



Edit: will that battery fit in the E30? mines similar to that and 'just' fits, cranks the M30 over lovely :D
How did you fit the battery, I tried but it was too big for the space?
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Fri May 14, 2010 9:45 pm

Rav335uk wrote:
leeparkes wrote:That white plug is not needed

All you need is the main loom and ECU, main live cable and thats about it, as rav said it helps to keep the earth strap



Edit: will that battery fit in the E30? mines similar to that and 'just' fits, cranks the M30 over lovely :D
How did you fit the battery, I tried but it was too big for the space?
Mines in the boot Rav :D
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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Fri May 14, 2010 10:02 pm

Must look into doing that at some point 8)
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Sat May 15, 2010 1:17 pm

leeparkes wrote:That white plug is not needed

All you need is the main loom and ECU, main live cable and thats about it, as rav said it helps to keep the earth strap



Edit: will that battery fit in the E30? mines similar to that and 'just' fits, cranks the M30 over lovely :D
yeah it fitted fine, a little squeeze but okay, will be better then the other one.

i sent a payment for the mounts

about the gear linkage, can i use a z3 short shifter and have the stick in the correct position?
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Sat May 15, 2010 5:19 pm

Short shift is only the gear lever, nothing else, so it will fit on any e30 regardless engine size.
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Sat May 15, 2010 8:50 pm

Rav335uk wrote:Short shift is only the gear lever, nothing else, so it will fit on any e30 regardless engine size.
sorry i was not clear, i meant that in the guide it says to swap the 325 gear linkages (which i need :) , if anyone can help). So i can do this and have a shortshifter without any problems?

Sorry if i sound abit thick
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Sat May 15, 2010 8:53 pm

Yes that's it, nothing special, but remember which way the the link bar comes out.
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Tue May 18, 2010 4:52 pm

M*ther F*ucking Prop is pissing me off, did anyone else struggle to take it off?

i sprayed it with wd40 the day before and it still didnt budge, the m20 one was straight forward, anyone got any ideas?
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Tue May 18, 2010 5:03 pm

Are you on the floor trying to undo the E34 prop??
You need a bis extension bar, some weight behind it and then it will shift, or a rattler gun.
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Tue May 18, 2010 6:35 pm

Remember the prop splits in to two. So you can remove the box with half attached then attack it when it's on the ground.
M30 Tech 1 Touring on gas.
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Tue May 18, 2010 8:23 pm

here are the pics of what im trying to undo, PITA:

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I will try again tomorrow if not the do what zaust is saying.
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Tue May 18, 2010 8:51 pm

If your ratchet can take it get a scaff bar on there for some extra leverage
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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Thu May 20, 2010 12:00 am

Did you get it off?
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
felt so proud,even tried it with a E30 325i and got put in my place.. :o:
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leeparkes wrote:Did you get it off?
Probably still under it :mad:
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Thu May 20, 2010 12:14 am

Rav335uk wrote:
leeparkes wrote:Did you get it off?
Probably still under it :mad:
your not wrong there :)

did get time today, will do tomorrow hopefully engine out and prep time.

I got to say lee you must have OCD or something to get your engine that clean, i dont think i can match that.
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Thu May 20, 2010 10:40 pm

leeparkes wrote:Did you get it off?
finally got the prop off but it didnt come apart from the middle for some reason, so after 30 mins of head scratching i managed to get it off in another way.

engine out, pleasently surprised how easy it was lol

here's a pics:

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next step cleaning full service and spray bar mod, am i missing anything?
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Thu May 20, 2010 10:43 pm

Have a good look at the sump gasket, if its wet, change it before the lump goes in and makes changing it a lot more tricky, something I regret not doing
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Thu May 20, 2010 11:07 pm

johnl320 wrote:Have a good look at the sump gasket, if its wet, change it before the lump goes in and makes changing it a lot more tricky, something I regret not doing
yeah i did notice that, looks like it got 100 bolts on though, going to do all the belts too.

Anything else?
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Thu May 20, 2010 11:12 pm

Water pump, stat, putting a new one on when its in the car is a bitch
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Thu May 20, 2010 11:20 pm

Do the sump gasket regardless, mine wasnt leaking but still done it

Cut the aircon pully off (if it has one)

Oh and yes i am a bit OCD :D Hammerite FTW 8)
Cypriotgeeza wrote:I done both my mates in my old 318is
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Tue May 25, 2010 8:52 pm

i have tried to clean as best i can, gonna spray the manifolf and mounts in silver, an alpina style rocker and inlet similar to yours. Going to do the stuff mentioned above thursday hopefully everything will turn up.

Does anyone have a picture of how the left hand side engine mount connects to the engine? (looking at the engine from the front)
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