MAF part number & remap (cost?)

[goosiegander]

Good to see the MAF conversion Thirst is still raging

[fowler]

Good to see the MAF conversion Thirst is still raging

pull ya finger out buddy !!!

[steve_k]

@ant thanks for that. Fowler says you are in the process of developing an M20 MAF conversion kit??

care to elaborate please buddy??

[goosiegander]

@ant thanks for that. Fowler says you are in the process of developing an M20 MAF conversion kit??

care to elaborate please buddy??

Steve -if you can make it to the next BBB meet you are more than welcome to have a go in my car so you can see how this performs if it helps with the decision to go down this route...

I certainly think it'll convice you to invest

[steve_k]

Right then folk's I'm still thinking of/looking at going for this & I've been thinking would it make more sense to go for a remap when doing the conversion??

Any thoughts/comments are welcome.

also would do you think the average cost of the remap would be? There's a garage down the road (lambs garage in clowne) that has a dyno & I'm thinking of having a word with the owner to see if he could carry out the work (whats actually involved? Just so I know)

awaiting reply's folk's.

[steve_k]

The reason I'm after the average cost of a mapping session is so I dont have to "get lubed up" (if you know what I mean?) when he/they give me a price.

[Speedtouch]

It all depends on their level of competence/understanding of all the issues involved.

A proper remap will take into account numerous parameters, such as air-fuel ratios, idle, varying engine/ambient temperatures, air intake temperature, rev limit, engine load, etc, etc., so the time involved will be entirely dependent on their knowledge (or lack of) relating to fitting the MAF then setting it up properly.

It could cost, depending on their hourly labour rate, anything from about £200 upwards. A quick Google search reckons that £250-£300 is about average for a normally-aspirated engine, but that will probably be for standard OEM spec., so changing from an AFM to a MAF will likely be more expensive.

[Quaser]

i would stick with the afm tbh - you will have a much more driveable car in all weather conditions in my opinion!

im going to ditch the maf on my conversion! - or use it with motronic - depending on who i get to do the mapping and how competent they are

[goosiegander]

i would stick with the afm tbh - you will have a much more driveable car in all weather conditions in my opinion!

im going to ditch the maf on my conversion! - or use it with motronic - depending on who i get to do the mapping and how competent they are

Respectfully Disagree, all weather conditions have seen my installation perform perfectly.

Though as per your other point i put this down to Ant's extensive knowledge/experience in working with motronic.

[Quaser]

hmm - well im definatly ditching the unichip!

[steve_k]

i would stick with the afm tbh - you will have a much more driveable car in all weather conditions in my opinion!

im going to ditch the maf on my conversion! - or use it with motronic - depending on who i get to do the mapping and how competent they are

when you decide who's doing the mapping let me know please bud?

also reply to your pm on it's way.

[steve_k]

i would stick with the afm tbh - you will have a much more driveable car in all weather conditions in my opinion!

im going to ditch the maf on my conversion! - or use it with motronic - depending on who i get to do the mapping and how competent they are

Respectfully Disagree, all weather conditions have seen my installation perform perfectly.

Though as per your other point i put this down to Ant's extensive knowledge/experience in working with motronic.

if you don't mind me asking how much did ant charge you for the mapping?

[ShepsEvo3]

hmm - well im definatly ditching the unichip!

It's a shame it was an early Unichip, if it was the Q or Q+ (ideally the Q+), the story may have been a little different

Currently have one in where we are just mapping the Motronic with MAF instead of AFM. So we'll see how that goes.

[steve_k]

Currently have one in where we are just mapping the Motronic with MAF instead of AFM. So we'll see how that goes.

hmmm tell me more please,(pm me if you like lol).

[fowler]

very good Conversion if you get it right i am sure Sheps can get it right I am sure You could go standalone and run the car like that but its your decison in the end
I have a squirt here ready for fitting with wasted spark to either run a boosted or NA M20
Only want 250+ loom costs for it can try and get a loom made up and a diagram of how to wire it up if you wish steve then its just a case of getting mapped and trust me you motor will fly....
From what i have seen from your set-up you should able to nearly hit the 200Bhp mark can try and get hold of a map to run your car also but this will cost a little too Pm if you are interested all info you need about squirt on a M20 NA engine can be found on www.diyefi.co.uk
flappysocks page

[steve_k]

very good Conversion if you get it right i am sure Sheps can get it right I am sure You could go standalone and run the car like that but its your decison in the end
I have a squirt here ready for fitting with wasted spark to either run a boosted or NA M20
Only want 250+ loom costs for it can try and get a loom made up and a diagram of how to wire it up if you wish steve then its just a case of getting mapped and trust me you motor will fly....
From what i have seen from your set-up you should able to nearly hit the 200Bhp mark can try and get hold of a map to run your car also but this will cost a little too Pm if you are interested all info you need about squirt on a M20 NA engine can be found on www.diyefi.co.uk
flappysocks page

cheers for that dude just a shame i ain't got the funds for your set up at the min

i'll have a good read through that link later tonight.

[fowler]

well TBH if you get the MAF set-up will cost in the same region fella not a bad mod let me know
cheers
Ben

[steve_k]

@Fowler, Ben any updates on the kit you say ant is working on??

[Kedge]

@Fowler, Ben any updates on the kit you say ant is working on??

Bump for this, any news?

[steve_k]

@Fowler, Ben any updates on the kit you say ant is working on??

Bump for this, any news?

waiting for an answer myself but it seems to have gone a bit quiet of late.

[fowler]

its up to ant i am sure its enroute but progress is slow me thinks can ask him next time we speak.
He is not doing much with E30's these days so i cannot really comment
that much but will ask the question
Cheers
Ben

[steve_k]

No worries Ben.

thanks for the little update

get him to pop back in here from time to time.

[fowler]

i am sure he does but i am sure that someone else was doing it have a google search i am sure it will come up you could always go standalone and run the car alpha N but it all depnds on cost i presume
but i am sure gunni or someone else could do it its not that difficult i just don't have a ll the computer gizmos to do it

[steve_k]

Cheers Ben

I'll have a look on google.

just be nice to have ant's input on this thats all.

[steve_k]

Well seeing as there's no sign of a UK MAF conversion (despite plenty of interest) it looks like i'll be going for the miller kit (but not the war chip).

thing is will the chip that comes with it be ok to use till I could get the car down to a dyno & get it remapped??

anyone on here able to answer that for me??

[Speedtouch]

I fitted one of the first Miller MAF kits that came out, to a 1988 325iSE. The standard chip supplied was fine, although the rev limit was 6,500 rpm. I asked them to provide a 7,000 rpm limit one, which they duly did, to match the Zone Mild chip that I had prior to fitting it.

Not sure if it would work with a 2.8, but I guess it would partially, probably enough to be able to get to a rolling road.

I still have a copy of the chip program, if anyone is in need...

[Alex]

I fitted one of the first Miller MAF kits that came out, to a 1988 325iSE. The standard chip supplied was fine, although the rev limit was 6,500 rpm. I asked them to provide a 7,000 rpm limit one, which they duly did, to match the Zone Mild chip that I had prior to fitting it.

Not sure if it would work with a 2.8, but I guess it would partially, probably enough to be able to get to a rolling road.

I still have a copy of the chip program, if anyone is in need...

Does that mean you can supply a copy of a miller ECU chip for use with a MAF ?

What MAF did they use and do you know what wires go where

Assuming its that simple

[nzbimmer]

I fitted one of the first Miller MAF kits that came out, to a 1988 325iSE. The standard chip supplied was fine, although the rev limit was 6,500 rpm. I asked them to provide a 7,000 rpm limit one, which they duly did, to match the Zone Mild chip that I had prior to fitting it.

Not sure if it would work with a 2.8, but I guess it would partially, probably enough to be able to get to a rolling road.

I still have a copy of the chip program, if anyone is in need...

I wouldn't mind a copy of your rom, as I have purchased a Miller Gen III Maf and chip from millerperformancecars.com, it took months to arrive, had to keep emailing them to remind them to send the item, now that its arrived and installed its not running right, i had to make the car rich (by blocking vacuum line from FPR) so that the car is useable.

[Speedtouch]

PM sent!