Spare wheel well

[ed325i]

I am trying to lose as much weight (from the car)
Is it worth removing the spare wheel well and replacing it with a bit of alloy ?

[e30den]

it depends on what else you have done is the car stripped out [ no roof lining etc]

[ed325i]

Its fully stripped out, no heater, single skin sunroof, polycarbonate windows etc

[agreen]

Its fully stripped out, no heater, single skin sunroof, polycarbonate windows etc

got any pics matey


why not leave the sapre wheel well alone remove the TWO dirty great big heavy fuel tanks and do what i am doing and fit a fuel cell IN the sapre wheel well

thus saving the wait of the two massive standard tanks

[ed325i]

The car is being sprayed at the moment so I will get pics up then its done.
Got most of the parts to put it together.

How many gallons will your fuel cell hold ?

[agreen]

well you have two options both i think are 40-45 litres i think you could either

- cut the spare wheel well out and then fit an all sheet over that and fit the fuel cell as close to the rear divide (and the furthur forward the better as the normal tanks fit over the axel)

- or as i say fit a fuel cell into the spare wheel well

hth

The car is being sprayed at the moment

what colour ya goiing for matey

[alloyproducts]

the capacity is approx 45litres, so similar to the oem one. it uses the oem level sender and can have an aero filler cap, or can use the standard filler.

[12345kevin]

I would say leave the tank where it is. A 45l tank in the boot is going to seriously alter the balance of the car, being the wrong side of the axle and raising the centre of gravity !

It may be different with a smaller tank, maybe behind the passenger seat ?

[agreen]

the capacity is approx 45litres, so similar to the oem one. it uses the oem level sender and can have an aero filler cap, or can use the standard filler

right on time

there is your answer ed325i

[paulg390]

we cut out the wheel well to replace with a carbon fibre sheet... but once out it hardly weighed anything so prob not worth the bother

[agreen]

we cut out the wheel well to replace with a carbon fibre sheet...

Two question how was it fixed to the floor ?

did you underseal the bottom of it dude

not gonna do it just wondered

[paulg390]

we cut out the wheel well to replace with a carbon fibre sheet...

Two question how was it fixed to the floor ?

did you underseal the bottom of it dude

not gonna do it just wondered

fitted it with a dozen bolts.. sealed with silicon.

[agreen]

we cut out the wheel well to replace with a carbon fibre sheet...

Two question how was it fixed to the floor ?

did you underseal the bottom of it dude

not gonna do it just wondered

fitted it with a dozen bolts.. sealed with silicon.

thanks

[e21Jason]

I would say leave the tank where it is. A 45l tank in the boot is going to seriously alter the balance of the car, being the wrong side of the axle and raising the centre of gravity !

It may be different with a smaller tank, maybe behind the passenger seat ?

I would disagre the static wieght distribution of an e30 (ie corner weights with no springs) is biased towards the front with the majority of the wiegth reduction at the front this will get worse.

Putting the fuel cell in the boot is a good idea, the DTM cars done it & most US autocross guys put in the spare wheel on a striped car to improve the handling.

Also i would put the washer bottle in the boot, and run with plexi glass and grp doors

Jason

[agreen]

and runn with grp doors

so would i if i could find someone who makes them

[e21Jason]

and runn with grp doors

so would i if i could find someone who makes them

I sell them

Jason

[agreen]

really hey i have been looking every where can you pm me details of finish , weight and price asap please are they cast from new doors ?

[ed325i]

what colour ya goiing for matey

Black.

the capacity is approx 45litres, so similar to the oem one.

Not going to save alot of weight if it holds about the same as the org tank ?

I would say leave the tank where it is. A 45l tank in the boot is going to seriously alter the balance of the car, being the wrong side of the axle and raising the centre of gravity !

This is what I was thinking, the e30 tank is nice and low down.

[agreen]

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I would say leave the tank where it is. A 45l tank in the boot is going to seriously alter the balance of the car, being the wrong side of the axle and raising the centre of gravity !


This is what I was thinking, the e30 tank is nice and low down.

its just as low if its in the sapre wheel well

Quote:
the capacity is approx 45litres, so similar to the oem one.


Not going to save alot of weight if it holds about the same as the org tank ?

YES it is

its made from really light ally and there is only one as a pose to the two that are on an e30 , i have felt the tanks they are very very v ery light and look brilliant

[ed325i]

the capacity is approx 45litres, so similar to the oem one. it uses the oem level sender and can have an aero filler cap, or can use the standard filler.

Have you got a price ? and a pic ?

[agreen]

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... ic&t=78827

hth

[ed325i]

http://www.e30zone.net/modules.php?name ... ic&t=78827

hth

Thanks for the link.
I was thinking the tank would be round to fit in the well.

[Joeey]

I have a custom made 45litre tank in the boot right back as far as it will go and makes no negative effects on the car whatsoever so go for it.
Wouldnt bother cutting out the wheel well but just bin the spare wheel, for weight, and carry a bottle of tyre weld should you get a flat.

[agreen]

I was thinking the tank would be round to fit in the well.

they are now he now makes round ones which are perfect fit in the spare wheel well

[alloyproducts]

heres a pic of the tank. i can make the tanks to what ever capicity people require, so if people do endurance they can have a larger capicity, or smaller, say 35litres if they mainly do track days. heres a pic.

[shorty73]

Seen these in the flesh and the quality is excellent.

My car is stripped with a tank (20ish litres) in the wheel well with about a 57/53% weight split front to rear. A larger tank would even things out.

[salami]

what sort of price would a 35 liter one cost???

[agreen]

Seen these in the flesh and the quality is excellent.

i have also seen most of nigels products and can confirm the quallity is superb

[WMWNWMN]

those tanks look nice! what's the biggest spare tire wheel you can make? and what is the cost for one of these tanks? PM me if you don't want to advertise the price in public

[Yaninnya]

I would say leave the tank where it is. A 45l tank in the boot is going to seriously alter the balance of the car, being the wrong side of the axle and raising the centre of gravity !

Interesting... So why works DTM cars was with with tanks in there?
Jan

[kimbo]

Slightly off topic, but I feel the need to share my thoughts about weight distribution.
Obviously, the ideal is 50 - 50, can't argue with that. Generally the E30 seems to be in the region of high fifties - low forties front -rear. THIS WILL DO. Certainly dont be adding weight intentionally at the back of the car. In simple terms (the only ones I understand) as well as weight distribution, you've got to think about polar moment of inertia. In other words that big weight at the back will want to go straight on when you turn the car, prompting mid corner / exit oversteer, something that the E30 is not short of already.
If you've got initial understeer which you probably have) screw on some negative camber on the front and even play with the tracking (circuit use only!) to promote good turn in. Once you're in the corner, the chassis dynamics will take over, along with your right foot and it will be oversteer all the way to the corner exit.
By the way, those fuel tanks look superb and I would fit one in the wheel well, despite what I said above. As long as you dont run it full on track. Weight is your enemy, not necessarily weight distribution.

Waiting for howls of derision.

Kim.

[George_Of_The_Jungle]

that tank is sexual......... i want one. not to put in the e30. just to look at.

[Rallyprep_UK]

yum yum nice tank mr !

perfect for my up and coming drift project ! how much do they start from please