Zoners track day cars

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Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:24 pm

Awesome thread. My car is road/track day but I'll post up some info soon.
E46 M3 CSL but dreaming of another E30.
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Wed Jun 25, 2008 4:10 pm

Some very good cars/pics in this thread - I like the steering column modification agent006 has done, I was thinking about doing this the other day and how easy it might be.

Anyway here's my car;
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Front spoiler/splitter which I bodged on yesterday.
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M30 3.5l engine with schrick 284/280 cam and BBR chip
Modified downpipes and custom stainless exhaust
E46 m3 steering rack and solid aluminium coupling guibo
Adjustable front top mounts and strengthened front subframe both c/o uwem3
WMS 280mm 4 pot front brakes, 280mm e30m3/z1 rear brakes
25mm brake mastercylinder, golf mk1 brake servo, braided hoses
SD 6 point cage, buckets & harnesses etc
Audi VDO oil pressure, oil temp and volts gauges
15" BBS and r888's
Poly engine, gearbox, diff and subframe mounts
Hartge Bilstein shocks and H&R springs - I want coilovers!
H&R arb's and rose jointed droplinks
3.64 LSD
z3 shortshift
m3 wishbone bushes
e24 oil cooler
e32 electric fan
e28 flywheel and clutch
Rieger front spoiler and splitter

Things I want but generally can't afford;
Coilovers
swirl pot setup
single skin grp bonnet
megasquirt/proper remap
hydraulic wand (handbrake)
lower the steering column
rebuilt diff with more lock
adjustable brake bias
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Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:51 pm

quality video, made me laff, need to perfect the driveing though 8)
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Wed Jun 25, 2008 6:43 pm

Theo,

the front splitter on your car could you pm me a link to where i could get one please.
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Audi S3 and Racing Puma track car.
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Wed Jun 25, 2008 7:18 pm

Hello,

This is my first writing on this forum.

Here's mine: '88 325i.

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No spectecular mods done yet. Needs some more work. Also a respray. I can't race in this color, can I? Could also need a lowering.

My previous one:

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Thu Jun 26, 2008 1:46 pm

Theo325 -lovin the white two door :cool: but i'm slightly biast of course winkeye FSQ but do you get a lot of understeer on yours on the track? noted the comments on coilovers (I'm the same!)

My wish list for my 325 track slag are:

No 1: Z3 1.9 steering rack -
2. Coilovers
3. Brakes - Wilwood 4 pot
4. Fit swirlpot
5. replace roof skin as it looks crap after the sunroof removal but not an essential for speed

My front splitter is in bits after it came of and got run over :cry:

KEEP THIS GREAT THREAD RUNNING!!! :cool:
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:13 pm

Cheers Lloydie, don't think there is any doubting that e30's look best in white :D

I'm not personally encountering masses of understeer, it's responsive and really grips well. Karan will confirm that I am not talking with a rosey view on things, after he drove it for a couple of laps at Silverstone GP the otherday.
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 10:50 pm

no understeer on theos beastie at all, very well balanced...easily promoted oversteer with trail/left foot braking.

grip is epic too as are the brakes

some coilovers and fine suspension tuning and i reckon it would give CSls a mean time in the corners
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:25 pm

Karan wrote:no understeer on theos beastie at all, very well balanced...easily promoted oversteer with trail/left foot braking.

grip is epic too as are the brakes

some coilovers and fine suspension tuning and i reckon it would give CSls a mean time in the corners
sounds quite inpressive considering there is no weight over the back and more weight up front,

makes me think more and more about doing this to mine but i dunno.
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Thu Jun 26, 2008 11:30 pm

boat anchor engines rule!

seriously though i think people slagging the big six engines should drive a sorted one like theos and see how good they can be
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Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:38 am

Couple more of my old girl.
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Fri Jun 27, 2008 7:48 am

Well boys I guess it would be rude to not add my little car although a lot less money has been spent on mine than some specimens on here.

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These 2 pictures were taken at Donnington and Silverstone.

I will add spec later as busy getting ready for Spa & Nurburg Ring :D
It's a Skyline thing.............you wouldn't understand!
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Fri Jun 27, 2008 10:39 pm

Nelly wrote::woohoo: - got my SD cage coming very soon.
And fitted today
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Some more of mine at Brands and Rockingham. No Understeer here.....Well maybe a little in the wet but the right foot cures that :mad:

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Mon Jul 07, 2008 4:43 pm

heres a few of mine, first car i put together when i was quite young, been sitting for a while in my mums garage, finally got it out. looks a bit of a dog from the outside, but its what is under the bonnet that counts.

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and one a few who recently saw the thread in photo section
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had to redo the set up in the boot due to robbing one fuel pump for another car.
should be back out soon for some track days.and full spec and pics soon. :cool:
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Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:16 pm

Early days yet as I've only recently cleared some garage space. This will be my PBMW racer for 2009 season. Weld in cage, partially completed, will have X rear diagonal with harness bars, tied into the shell with steel fillets as in the second photo. DIY type front coilovers, not sure on the rear yet. Will be building an M40 for it, engine stripped out at present. It was bought off the zone as a 316 with overheating problems.

Final photo - courtesy Dave Kirby aka E30nerd - was my 318 from 2007. Built on a real budget with loads of mix and match second hand stuff from pistonheads, ebay and the zone. DIY type front suspension with Koni inserts, Spax adjustable rear with harder springs, poly bushed rear end, eccentric front bushes, rear disc conversion, otherwise more or less standard apart from a Milltek exhaust and the usual safety stuff for scrutineering.

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Tue Jul 08, 2008 8:35 pm

Keep them coming - Fantastic pics of some serious machines, I'd love to be in these cars on the track as they burn past machines far younger and far more expensive :cool: winkeye :mad: :cool:
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Fri Jul 11, 2008 12:43 am

Neil. the tourer is looking spot on, can you pm me how much you paid for your cage please.

might get a few pictures up of mine over the weekend.
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I bought the cage off of here from "agreen" for £450 and had to drive to Sandringham in Norfolk to get it - i know where there's another up for grabs shortly for £550, never fitted, still in the delivery bubble wrap but missing the bar that runs across the top of the windscreen, iirc - £80 from SD.
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Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:11 pm

There's some pretty smart looking motors here guys.. nice to see so many E30's still on track!!
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Fri Jul 11, 2008 10:50 pm

Nelly wrote:I bought the cage off of here from "agreen" for £450 and had to drive to Sandringham in Norfolk to get it - i know where there's another up for grabs shortly for £550, never fitted, still in the delivery bubble wrap but missing the bar that runs across the top of the windscreen, iirc - £80 from SD.
i thought you bought it from him i ust wasnt to sure that was all,

Neil, could you do me a favour please. could you take a picture of the front door bars so i can see how high they come up if possible please,
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Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:41 pm

a couple of pictures of my car im putting the final pieces into it know,


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still got alot of tidying up to do an finish painting the inside,
list of jobs:
-fit my drivers seat
-fit passenger seat and harness
- fit new adjustable dampners
-fit front iS lip and tech 1 rear spoiler

then i need to save for insurance in september and get myself an SD cage
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Hope this helps you out Ian;

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Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:52 pm

I'm looking forward to seeing the 'Orange and Black' beast of Northloops at Anglesey on 1st Nov - Are any of you guys going? Would be great just to meet up and produce a group track E30 pic... :cool:
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Mon Aug 04, 2008 5:12 pm

Having some bodget stresses at the moment but if i can find some spare cash then i'll be up for November too.
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Mon Aug 04, 2008 6:22 pm

Well, it's a bona fide track car now.

It's actually seen one. LOL! :)

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Can't wait to get it out again ~ with a few improvements to both horsepower AND driver. LOL!
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Mon Aug 04, 2008 9:31 pm

Lloydie38 wrote:I'm looking forward to seeing the 'Orange and Black' beast of Northloops at Anglesey on 1st Nov - Are any of you guys going? Would be great just to meet up and produce a group track E30 pic... :cool:
It's doing Silverstone this Thursday too
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Mon Aug 04, 2008 10:35 pm

The spec of my car so far this year is
Leda suspension
Eibach ARB's
Ground control Adjustable topmounts front and rear
4.10 lsd
Sport box (not currently in)
Front and Rear strut braces (weichers I think)
Compomotive MO 7x15 and BBS 7x15 both wearing R888's
Safety Devices cage
Scroth Harness
Sparco Pro ADV seat with Sparco Ally mounts
Hottuning manifold mated to a www.zeroexhausts.co.uk single exhaust system
Schrick 288/288 cam (not currently in this engine)
Ramair filter
BBTB
Speedtouch wild chip
Polybushed throughout
Dans steering Guibo
Whiteline ARB links
Spa and Stack clocks
Varley redtop Battery in passenger side
Ali tank in boot with facet pump and brise swirl pot, braided lines through habaticle.
Heated screen
Tilton BPV by drivers seat
Wilwood 4 pots, Discs and braided lines
DRE shiftlights and omex rev limiter. Demon Tweeks lap timer
Baffled sump with extra capacity and oil catch tank by www.cdh-uk.com
Extra large rad by www.cdh-uk.com
treehouse racing control arm bracket's (not fitted yet)
OMP adjustable steering boss

Currently weighs 1063kg'ish depending on wheels with driver in kit


Been playing around a bit more and have added the following bit's:

Baffled and bigger sump

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Bigger Rad

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Adjustable BPV. not new just relocated.

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Adjustable top mounts

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Big Brakes
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New exhaust

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Big break until Spa now so I've got try and resist the urge to do loads of testing!!
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Tue Aug 05, 2008 1:35 am

Why resist?

Test!

You know you want to....:)

Nice work, shorty.
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Tue Aug 05, 2008 3:29 pm

Looking nice shorty - nice to see someone who must be more skint than me! I've got some work going but I'll have to add your rad & brakes to my list sometime
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AlpineAde wrote:Why resist?

Test!

You know you want to....:)

Nice work, shorty.
I know I want to but my wallet is falling apart at the seams!

There's a credit crunch over here in the UK you know? 8O And my credit card is in melt down :cry:

Bet I don't make it to October without going somewhere though :D

Sandown looks good fella. Another one of my V8 Supercar favourites.

DD2000 make sure you speak to nigel for a rad at cdh. Light as a feather but will keep you cool.
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Thu Aug 07, 2008 11:41 am

Shorty - The car set up is looking amazing - I wish I was more skilled and adventerous in the spanners department :cry:

Q: The Hottuning manifold - can a quickrack be fitted with this manifold fitted or does it make it impossible?

I'm going to use your list of kit and the pics and a target to aim for with my budget track car.

As for those uprated brakes - TOTAL car porn winkeye :mad:
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Lloydie38 wrote:Shorty - The car set up is looking amazing - I wish I was more skilled and adventerous in the spanners department :cry:

Q: The Hottuning manifold - can a quickrack be fitted with this manifold fitted or does it make it impossible?

I'm going to use your list of kit and the pics and a target to aim for with my budget track car.

As for those uprated brakes - TOTAL car porn winkeye :mad:
Thanks Loydie.

TBH it's my first race car so it's all trial and error. the bulk of it was done I'm just adding/changing stuff to suit what I want.

Saying that I think a lot of the original car has now gone!

A. I don't know about the quickrack? Not had any experience with one so couldn't honestly say. The hottuning manifold is ok for the money though. £200 quid for some of China's not so finest welding and bending :D Not the best quality but I had a BTB that fell in two and I'm not paying £650 for another one. If I kill one of these every season then it doesn't really matter.

The brakes are superb. Can't wait to try them in anger.


Has anyone got opinions on Wilwood Polymatrix Pads?
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Fri Aug 08, 2008 9:49 am

No but i fit an e36 rack with my hottunning manifold and it doesn't fit!

What i had to do was press the manifold where the coupling was fouling and move the rack about 10mm to the right of the car.

Bit of drilling and welding of new plates and it was done! :D

I had the tracking done yesterday and now you would never know the rack was not central, and believe me i pushed it to see! :D
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