Footage from a really wet weekend at Cadwell Park 5th & 6th Nov, in-car camera in a Nissan 200..
http://www.suicidesquad.demon.co.uk/cad ... 0crash.wmv
Cadwell park track crash
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Nasty. What happened. It looks like there's a very slight left hander. I can see she's in forth before the backend comes out but I can't see exactly why?
Doesn't even look that fast but in car footage can be deceptive. What sort of speed? 80/90?
Doesn't even look that fast but in car footage can be deceptive. What sort of speed? 80/90?
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Wasn't me I might add!!
Don't know the detail apart from ir was bucketing it down and a pal of mine who went aquaplained in the same spot but it didn't spin him. He would be in 4th so 80mph....
Don't know the detail apart from ir was bucketing it down and a pal of mine who went aquaplained in the same spot but it didn't spin him. He would be in 4th so 80mph....
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nasty. aquaplaning scares me!!! Coming back from touring daddy's place last week there was so much standing water was shitting me up cos I couldn't even see it coming.
Funny how the wider tyres seem to make it worse, at lesat the drag effect anyway. My corsa never used to phase me anywhere near as much on it's 155s.
Perhaps the turbo spooled up as he aquaplaned... damn turbos
Funny how the wider tyres seem to make it worse, at lesat the drag effect anyway. My corsa never used to phase me anywhere near as much on it's 155s.
Perhaps the turbo spooled up as he aquaplaned... damn turbos
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I bet he wished he had more turbo lag as he hit that puddle... 
I have put Goodyear F1's for my wet tyres on my E30 325i (See my WWW at the bottom of the page) , at Ԛ£50 each and non low profiles they should do the trick in any standing water.
I aquaplaned once in a 406 2.0ltr turbo and sh1t myself, it was like I had been picked up from the fast lane and plonked down in the slow lane, pulled into the next service station and bought a new pair of undercrackers
I have put Goodyear F1's for my wet tyres on my E30 325i (See my WWW at the bottom of the page) , at Ԛ£50 each and non low profiles they should do the trick in any standing water.
I aquaplaned once in a 406 2.0ltr turbo and sh1t myself, it was like I had been picked up from the fast lane and plonked down in the slow lane, pulled into the next service station and bought a new pair of undercrackers
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50 pounds a pop for F1s, I can't see the link dude?
Well I hope all these turbo boys are paying attention! There's a nice initial d episode that shows the same thing, about turbos spooling up when they're not wanted. I reckon all track days should show initial d as required veiwing..
Well I hope all these turbo boys are paying attention! There's a nice initial d episode that shows the same thing, about turbos spooling up when they're not wanted. I reckon all track days should show initial d as required veiwing..
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Hi that was me
I got told the link was also posted here.
I had done around 180 miles on the track that day, so about 80 laps, it was wet for all of them but on that lap it just snatched left too quick for me to do much.
I had F1's on the front, in my size they are ~ Ԛ£70 from www.mytyres.co.uk
On the back I had bridgestone S02's another quality tyre although they had decent tread on at the start of the day they were wearing but still had ~2mm over the wear markers.
turbo lag wouldnt matter much, you can clearly see from the footage I was coasting through the standing water, the T28 is only a small turbo anyway and suffers little lag (full boost of 15psi by 2900rpm).
Its just one of those things, if you want to trackday occasionally it will go wrong.
Thankfully the nissan 200SX owners club is great, and I have been given FOC or cheap all the parts needed for the repair. Nissan prices it would have been around Ԛ£7K I reckon I'll have it back on the road on the 20th of the month (its being jigged and panelled this weekend) total cost should be a good chunk under Ԛ£1000.
Hope that clear some things up
I have some better footage of my driving
http://www.suicidesquad.co.uk/sm/sxoc/s ... r%2005.zip
http://www.suicidesquad.co.uk/sm/sxoc/s ... %20TVR.zip
and
http://www.suicidesquad.co.uk/sm/sxoc/J ... 0(Dry).zip
I got told the link was also posted here.
I had done around 180 miles on the track that day, so about 80 laps, it was wet for all of them but on that lap it just snatched left too quick for me to do much.
I had F1's on the front, in my size they are ~ Ԛ£70 from www.mytyres.co.uk
On the back I had bridgestone S02's another quality tyre although they had decent tread on at the start of the day they were wearing but still had ~2mm over the wear markers.
turbo lag wouldnt matter much, you can clearly see from the footage I was coasting through the standing water, the T28 is only a small turbo anyway and suffers little lag (full boost of 15psi by 2900rpm).
Its just one of those things, if you want to trackday occasionally it will go wrong.
Thankfully the nissan 200SX owners club is great, and I have been given FOC or cheap all the parts needed for the repair. Nissan prices it would have been around Ԛ£7K I reckon I'll have it back on the road on the 20th of the month (its being jigged and panelled this weekend) total cost should be a good chunk under Ԛ£1000.
Hope that clear some things up
I have some better footage of my driving
http://www.suicidesquad.co.uk/sm/sxoc/s ... r%2005.zip
http://www.suicidesquad.co.uk/sm/sxoc/s ... %20TVR.zip
and
http://www.suicidesquad.co.uk/sm/sxoc/J ... 0(Dry).zip
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Thanks for the detail, it really did seem to snap with some sevear speed. As for being supported by the guys in your club that what's it all about, when the sh*t hits the fan it's then you realise that you have so many pals that sometimes you've never met 
I did hear it was seriously chucking it down and the Caterham my pal was in was spinning the wheels in the first 3 gears
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I did hear it was seriously chucking it down and the Caterham my pal was in was spinning the wheels in the first 3 gears
....The Isle of Man: No National Speed Limit, No Gatso's, No Nanny State, a disused airfield track 1.5 miles long, the best mountain road to drive on...Come and Play!
Ah the man himself. I hear what you're saying about the track days ad something bad happening if you do them often enough.
Nice vids dude! Not much point in zipping them though.
what have you done modification wise to the car? Looks like the 200sx makes quite a nice track weapon. What are they like in terms of steering ratio, turns lock to lock?
Nice vids dude! Not much point in zipping them though.
what have you done modification wise to the car? Looks like the 200sx makes quite a nice track weapon. What are they like in terms of steering ratio, turns lock to lock?
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I zip the vids just so they wont stream (not allowed by my ISP on the website)
mods are
DUAL FUEL, LPG CONVERSION (so its cheaper on the daily drive than a Fockus TDCi - I do 40K/year and a trackday bi-monthly)
Mods
Apex Sunstrip
Apex Coilovers 8kg/6kg
Apex Short-Shift (B&M Copy)
Apex Oil Cooler
Apex Rear Camber Arms
Apex Split-flow Turbo Elbow - Shiny
Apex 3.0" Twin Silencer Cat-back, modified with LARGE Jetex Silencer, its now a respectable volume.
Apex 3.0" Silencer Cat replacement Pipe
Apex Wide Wing Oil Pan (Prototype)
De-Bricked
Apexi Induction Kit
Apexi Heat Sheild Induction box with added tape & air ducts
HKS SQV BOV (needs recircing)
HKS Adj. Actuator. (15psi)
GReedy (Broken) EGT Gauge.
GReedy Boost Gauge
Second BoostGauge (reads low)
Oil Temp & Pressure Gauges
S14a Horsham Developments Stage 1 Chip.
IK24's / NGK Iridiums Grade 8
SA Belt 4 point 3" Harness
Whiteline Strut Brace (front)
Trust (?) 3.5" Front Pipe
R33 GTR FMIC
(Half) Roll-Cage Doubles as mid/rear Strut brace
Knackered Drivers seat (rigth side has no padding)
Pineapples (subframe locking poly inserts)
Brakes
Apex 310mm Big Front Brake Kit
Z32 Rear brakes
Z32 Drum Handbrake
R33 GTS-T Handbrake Cables.
5.1 Brake Fluid
Goodridge Braided Brake Lines
DS2500 or Project Mu up front (tests continue to find a better pad)
Porterfield R4S rear pads
Other
Slicks on my Track Wheels
Quality Tyres on the road wheels, GYE F1's, Bridgestone S02, Toyo T1-S ....
Awaiting Fitment
Braided turbo hose set.
HKS SQV Recirc kit
Homemade Brake Ducts.
mods are
DUAL FUEL, LPG CONVERSION (so its cheaper on the daily drive than a Fockus TDCi - I do 40K/year and a trackday bi-monthly)
Mods
Apex Sunstrip
Apex Coilovers 8kg/6kg
Apex Short-Shift (B&M Copy)
Apex Oil Cooler
Apex Rear Camber Arms
Apex Split-flow Turbo Elbow - Shiny
Apex 3.0" Twin Silencer Cat-back, modified with LARGE Jetex Silencer, its now a respectable volume.
Apex 3.0" Silencer Cat replacement Pipe
Apex Wide Wing Oil Pan (Prototype)
De-Bricked
Apexi Induction Kit
Apexi Heat Sheild Induction box with added tape & air ducts
HKS SQV BOV (needs recircing)
HKS Adj. Actuator. (15psi)
GReedy (Broken) EGT Gauge.
GReedy Boost Gauge
Second BoostGauge (reads low)
Oil Temp & Pressure Gauges
S14a Horsham Developments Stage 1 Chip.
IK24's / NGK Iridiums Grade 8
SA Belt 4 point 3" Harness
Whiteline Strut Brace (front)
Trust (?) 3.5" Front Pipe
R33 GTR FMIC
(Half) Roll-Cage Doubles as mid/rear Strut brace
Knackered Drivers seat (rigth side has no padding)
Pineapples (subframe locking poly inserts)
Brakes
Apex 310mm Big Front Brake Kit
Z32 Rear brakes
Z32 Drum Handbrake
R33 GTS-T Handbrake Cables.
5.1 Brake Fluid
Goodridge Braided Brake Lines
DS2500 or Project Mu up front (tests continue to find a better pad)
Porterfield R4S rear pads
Other
Slicks on my Track Wheels
Quality Tyres on the road wheels, GYE F1's, Bridgestone S02, Toyo T1-S ....
Awaiting Fitment
Braided turbo hose set.
HKS SQV Recirc kit
Homemade Brake Ducts.
220bhp/tonne Nissan 200SX 1999 S14a
that's a fairly extensive list but it looks quite well planned and not like a bunch of thoughtless addons.
I like that plan of the dual fuel conversion. I can only afford to run one car and that may be my wayout of trying to balance high power with affordability... A long way off for my own project but food for thought nonethe less.
Just finished watching the last video (jap crap, err I mean day
) You were monstering them, nice!
Hey Lloydie, what's with the chicks in the photos on your site?? Nice but
I like that plan of the dual fuel conversion. I can only afford to run one car and that may be my wayout of trying to balance high power with affordability... A long way off for my own project but food for thought nonethe less.
Just finished watching the last video (jap crap, err I mean day
) You were monstering them, nice!Hey Lloydie, what's with the chicks in the photos on your site?? Nice but
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Glad its getting fixed
That happened so quick you had no chance of trying to control it
unlucky.
What camera set up have you got? as i want to get some footage from my trackdays and i currently have no kit, no camcorder or mount....
That happened so quick you had no chance of trying to control it
unlucky.What camera set up have you got? as i want to get some footage from my trackdays and i currently have no kit, no camcorder or mount....
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Thanks for all your comments 
Camera is a Sony Handycam DCRHC14E, basically a little DV Cam, nothing new or fancy. I use a sucker type mount on the front or rear screen or sometimes a headrest mount.
All the equipment is borrowed so I dont know much about it.
Camera is a Sony Handycam DCRHC14E, basically a little DV Cam, nothing new or fancy. I use a sucker type mount on the front or rear screen or sometimes a headrest mount.
All the equipment is borrowed so I dont know much about it.
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Sorry to hear about this! The passenger seemed a little shocked! I Think his glasses broke too!
So did you lift off when you seen the puddle?
Andrew
So did you lift off when you seen the puddle?
Andrew
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Good work!
That was quick
Hope it dont happen again
Andrew
That was quick
Hope it dont happen again
Andrew
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Thanks, had to be quick I was fed up of the Train to workDemlotcrew wrote:Good work!
That was quick
Hope it dont happen again
Would have been quicker but had to wait for it to be jigged before re-panelling.
I cant afford for it to happen again, think it will be Feb before I'm back out on the track.
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Wow that was fast, good work fella and quality support from your club by the sounds of it - nice one.
The Isle of Man: No National Speed Limit, No Gatso's, No Nanny State, a disused airfield track 1.5 miles long, the best mountain road to drive on...Come and Play!