E46 325ti? Nah, its E36 318ti time!

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Does anyone have much experience of these? We'll shortly be moving to the sticks so I'm currently on the hunt for a commuting chariot for my better half. She's a photographer so will need either an estate or a hatchback for when carrying kit to and from her studio. My first thoughts for a cheap runner were an E36 M43 powered shooting brake or compact but decent ones are nigh on non-existent now :(

E46 325ti's though are more plentiful and appear to be a bit of a bargain at the moment. They seem to be more rust resistant than their E46 siblings but do they have any known faults to look out for? Her commute will be a 25 mile round trip so fuel economy isn't that vital. It would have to be the 325ti as I've been down the valvetronic route before in my old 318ci and wouldn't wish the N42 on anyone :)
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Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:31 pm

I purchased one of these at Crimbo. I have found it to be very refined compared to my old 328i.
The only problem I had was a coil pack.i have replaced all 6 and she is fine. My mrs loves the little thing.
Sadly it hasn't grown on me at all. I miss my e36 as much as e30s. For a daily drive it is a wonderful little thing.
Comfy quite fast and and just a nice place to be.the back seats are quite hard and useless to be fair.
Apart from that I say your wife will love it.
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Sun Jun 14, 2015 1:58 pm

Here's a nice black E36 318ti > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1998-BMW-318T ... 1a0144eae6

Looks clean, low mileage, full history, MOT for a few months and it's in Kent, not too far from Kingston? Finishing tomorrow evening, but you could try making him an offer?

There's another red one here > http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-318-1-9ti ... 3f4e68104f

Just 50k miles? Clocked or a bargain? But generally not much info from the seller, as it's a dealer, but it's in London, so good for you :)
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Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:02 pm

The 325Ti is the only Compact to have. Rust is much less prevalent but beware shagged window regulators (unique to Compact and BMW only $$$$) :roll: and buggered rear wiper motors.
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Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:18 pm

Cheers gents, some useful info there. The one I'm considering is a Pistachio Green example with half leather sport seats. Probably not to everyone's tastes but it will stand out in the car park. :)
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Tue Jun 16, 2015 6:37 pm

Pistachio green is a colour 4 WINNAHS!!
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 10:22 am

Manic couple of weeks! House move had to be rushed through as the one we were due to purchase was about to be repossessed. 8O

Thankfully we were able to speed things up, as was our buyer, so we didn't miss out. My good lady has been using the E30 so I was left with all of a day to frantically source a set of wheels for my 60 mile round trip commute to work.

I spotted a tidy looking E36 318ti with just 2 owners and 100K on the clock on autotrader but the problem was it was 90 odd miles away. We set out early last Wednesday and arrived there just after 09:00. Well and truly tucked up in the corner like the unwanted part-exchange it was (the owner traded it in against an X3), the initial inspection was quite promising. A few scrapes and battle wounds as you'd expect of a 20 year old car but generally ok. The rear arches both have a little rust but nothing too unsightly. The front driver's side wing was the worst offender, dented after a bump and a bit crusty but this is a commuting hack, not for showing at Pebble Beach. Underneath was clean, no oil leaks and 4 tyres with plenty of tread. Interior was pretty much immaculate barring minor wear on the driver's seat bolster.

Key in the ignition and it started first time and settled into a decent idle. Manuals present in the glovebox, windows worked fine and still shut from holding the key in the lock position, full tool kit in the boot and a rusty spare wheel under the car.

Retired to the traditional car dealer portacabin and was presented with the most comprehensive history I've ever seen for a car. Everything, and I mean everything, the car has ever had was documented. Every invoice including the original order and bill of sale (£200 for an upgraded Sony Cassette player!), every MOT, every tax disc and a very comprehensive handwritten log of all maintenance (including wiper blade changes!). It was clear that it had never wanted for anything mechanically so I set off on the test drive in hope that this would be a good'un. And it was. A lovely tight drive, no overheating, revvy though torque-less 4 pot and a nice chuckable little car built before NCAP took all the fun away.

£600 exchanged hands, car taxed and insured and a quick walk to Greggs for a can of coke and slice of Pizza whilst waiting for the insurance to kick in at 12:00. Quarter of a tank of petrol was a nice bonus, radio tuned to Radio 2 (I haven't used a cassette since about 1994) and we set off back home to Norfolk hoping I wouldn't be needing the RAC services. An accident on the M11 (a very pranged E60) delayed proceedings but I managed to make it home in 3 hours with the 'pact not missing a beat.

Straight into commuting service and I've managed to eek 450 miles out of the tank before I gave up playing chicken with the fuel light and filled up with Shell's finest.

As a cheap commuting hack its ideal. Reasonably refined, comfy, quite fun, enough power to get out of its own way, 40mpg and not a turbo or diesel pump in sight. Even managed to get a washing machine in the back of it yesterday. The few cosmetic issues mean I don't mind where I park it. Bangernomics at its best. :)
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:39 pm

Excellent work Sir.

What colour is it? I can look out for a tidy front wing.

What is it, 1.8 or 1.9? And we require pics. :D
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:45 pm

Andy,

That would be appreciated. Its Arctic silver, early one on a 1995 N with a 1.8 and the older style grill. Steels with wheeltrims secured by M-Tech cable ties! Recent new BMW exhaust though.

Once we get sorted, Rust/Gape pictures to follow for Pete! :)
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:50 pm

I have a Titan drivers wing but it's a later facelift type with the smaller, relocated repeater.
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 12:56 pm

Close but no cigar. If you get an early one let me know. Shekels waiting. :)
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 1:15 pm

Andyboy wrote:I have a Titan drivers wing in my loft where the carefully bubble wrapped NOS ADO17 wings reside, but it's a later facelift type with the smaller, relocated repeater.


:D


A good 'pact is a mighty yoke !

A good barometer of a 'pacts worthiness is two working windows. Anybody who has ever owned one knows how rare that is ! :( :)
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 4:56 pm

i've a pair of artic front wings in my passage, plus nose cone and bonnet! One wing is grumpy the other very good. I'll check for you
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:42 pm

Cheers Si! Let me know. :thumb:
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Tue Jul 28, 2015 7:02 pm

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Drivers wing is a bit grumpy,


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Passenger side is very good,

off my old 328i snotter touring, i've also got the nose cone + front bumper and bonnet but none of it is perfect. I need to clear it all out really
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Wed Jul 29, 2015 1:47 pm

Cheers Si, but I'll pass. It's not as grotty as mine but not that much better either. Sod's law it's not the passenger one I need!
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Thu Aug 06, 2015 3:02 pm

Oil and filter service done today so a first opportunity to get it up on the ramp. A couple of the brake pipes are a little crusty but these were just cleaned up and given a coating of grease for now. I'll replace them at a later date. Other that that, everything else was spot on.

I've now done the best part of 1000 miles in it and its averaging 40-45mpg on a run at a steady 55-60mph. Who needs the valvetronic N42?

Its had a good wash but I'm hoping to give it a clay bar, polish and wax next week. Pics to follow once the detailing is done.
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We've been running a E36 318ti sport compact for a few years now and it's been the most reliable car i've had! It needed an exhaust, shocks and pads when we bought it and as it was doing the nurburgring and the alps soon after, it got the lot.

Since then, aside from tyres, oil, filters and wipers it's only needed an aircon regas and coil pack in about 4 years of daily service, flat out holidays and a few track days.

I frickin love the thing! :D About the best fun/£ BMW out there, just needs a M52 one day!
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Fri Aug 07, 2015 8:28 pm

My wife had one before her Z3 it had done 37,000 miles and was mint in about 2007. It was a peach to drive in that almost new car way to my eyes! But in that must respect compact way if pushing on. Bit like a Z3
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Sat Sep 19, 2015 12:23 pm

About time I updated this.

Ongoing work on the house combined with my everyday job mean I haven't really done much at all to the 'pact other that use it! I must've done approx 3000 miles in it over the past 8 weeks and its performed fantastically. I wouldn't describe it as quick (any modern diesel hatch will overtake it with ease) but it goes surprisingly well and always returns 40mpg. Criticisms? None really.

Finally gave it a clay bar and polish last week that has done wonders for the paintwork. It couldn't have been polished at all in the last 5-10 years such were the state of my polishing cloths once I'd finished. If the weather stays nice today I'm hoping to give it a coat of Autoglym's HD wax which should get it through the winter. Pics to follow once that's done.

Its suffering from the infamous E36 spinning ignition on the driver's key but works fine off the two spares. A trip to the dealers is planned for the necessary parts.

Its entertaining in the wet which makes me suspect it will be absolutely hopeless if we get any snow. Its currently sporting a full set of Barum Bravuris tyres with lots of tread. I'd never heard of them before. Whilst not the greatest tyre in the world they are doing a reasonable job. I'll look into some better rubber once the weather turns.
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:19 am

Don't spend a penny on the steering lock. A repair is free and takes 10 mins. Remove the lower cowling. Twist the black EWS ring round slightly - see where the black lug for the two wires is? You need to drill into the lock body just there so twust it round a few degrees. 3mm drill and drill in about 10mm. Wing a slim self tapper in until the key won't turn at all and then back it off until it will. Sorted.
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:33 am

Interesting. Thanks Andy, I'll give that a go.
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:12 am

gareth wrote:We've been running a E36 318ti sport compact for a few years now and it's been the most reliable car i've had! It needed an exhaust, shocks and pads when we bought it and as it was doing the nurburgring and the alps soon after, it got the lot.

Since then, aside from tyres, oil, filters and wipers it's only needed an aircon regas and coil pack in about 4 years of daily service, flat out holidays and a few track days.

I frickin love the thing! :D About the best fun/£ BMW out there, just needs a M52 one day!

+1 we've had one for three years and it just runs like a Swiss watch. The guy we bought it from, sold it to 'upgrade' to a Renault Megane :D (Ours had preventative steering lock surgery from Mr Everett as part of the post-purchase autopsy :thumb:)
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 10:16 am

Can't fault mine at all really. I ran a '97 316i saloon as a daily driver from 2002-2009 and barring the infamous M43 head gasket it was a fantastic little thing. I wish I never sold it. E36s are cracking cars. Look after them and they're uber reliable. My Compact is 20 years old but still feels reasonably modern.
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Sun Sep 20, 2015 9:22 pm

Well ours decided to be a bit unreliable, I bloody spoke too soon! We were away for 2 weeks swanning around Canada and left the poor compact at home while the E46 330i individual sport touring got abandoned at gatwick

This was late august - the two rainy weeks we missed :D A few day after getting back it developed a misfire. Upon investigation the plug wells on cylinders 1 and 2 were full, like properly full, with water. Thinks, cock, headgasket... then thinks it wouldn't get there... then tastes the water. not sweet, so not glycol. rain water!

It was parked nose down on a steep driveway and the rain dripping through the vents / scuttle or wherever must have collected in the top of the cam cover and filled the well up! Blasts out with an airline and job's a good un.

Still frickin love that car :D
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 12:41 pm

Well, 5500 miles into ownership and other than two new rear light bulbs the Compact is coping effortlessly with whatever I throw at it. Work commute, shopping trips, fully loaded for trips to the dump, it's jack of all trades. Wish I bought a hatch years ago, infinitely more practical than a saloon. I'm growing stupidly attached to the thing, it's just light and fun to drive and simply refuses to do less than 40mpg. Love it!

I still haven't taken any pics but it's looking a lot more presentable now. Not that a poverty spec E36 is anything to get excited about anyway, but that's part of its charm.

Shekels waiting if anyone has a surplus Arctic wing!

Future plans? Another service shortly before tackling the brake lines. Can't say its a job I'm looking forward to so I may pay someone else!
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 5:45 pm

I took my 318i Touring on a holiday up the Highlands last month. Four adults and luggage, 38 mpg average on tank to tank fill ups. Not bad for a 160'000 mile snorter.
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Tue Nov 03, 2015 6:35 pm

Mine's just clicked round to 106K. The old M42/43/44s are so good on fuel that the N42, whilst marginally quicker and better mpg, is an irrelevance considering how much will inevitably go wrong. My old N42 318ci even had a rusty dipstick!

Might take the 318ti it up to Scotland next year. We normally stay near Callander at the Leny estate. Took the E30 last time which somehow managed to achieve low 30s mpg. There's some lovely roads up there.
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its done 30 mpg no matter what so with that big e34 fuel tank its 500+ miles between fill ups, super comfy and a huge boot
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Unless there is another Techno Techno Techno Techno 518i wagon with E60 'loys around, I spotted it for sale yesterday.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 10:48 am

Does anyone know what colour silver a T reg 'pact would be? I've sourced a possible wing but it looks more like Titan than Arctic.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:17 pm

Pah! Just found out its Titan. The search continues.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:22 pm

A 1999 will also have small side repeaters, not the big E30 type ones on pre '96 cars.
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Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:27 pm

Cheers Andy. I was going to buy a pair and give it a mini facelift.

Early pre-facelift wings are a rare commodity nowadays, especially in Arctic. :(
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Mon Feb 29, 2016 1:49 pm

Well, reliable cars make for quite boring running reports but I'm now 10,000 miles in to ownership and there is little to report.

It's had another service - new plugs, filters, oil etc and is running really sweet now. Other than two new rear brake bulbs and a blocked washer jet (I really must order a new valve soon!) it's been a paragon of reliability. The tyres coped with what little bad weather we had this winter and have still got a fair few thousand miles in them. I'll probably fit a set of Vredestein Sportracs when they expire - my old E36 faves. MOT is due in April which I'm hoping will be reasonably painless.

Complaints? Only the first owner's spec choice and neglecting to choose heated mirrors and washer jets!

It's had a wash today (hubcaps are far easier to clean than 15"BBS cross-spokes!) and I'll give it a polish and wax once the weather warms up. It just gets on with it's job with the minimum of fuss and always returns 400 miles to a tank. Happy days. :)
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